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Keep in mind that the real SB for Joe was the conf title game as the NFC was head and shoulders better than the AFC. 

Brady won where his best WRs were Julian Edelman and Troy Brown.  w/ randy Moss he went undefeated and gave the pats a lead w/  TD to Moss late in the SB only to watch the D blow it.

6 SBs apps w/ 4 SB wins is better than 4 SB apps and 4 SB wins especially in this salary cap era where you can't keep teams together anymore unlike the Niners of the 80s.

Man don't waste your time. There are some posters whose prime objective is to hate Brady, don't even debate against it.

Brady is on Montana's level, just as of now not better than Montana on less he wins another SB. That's universally looked at by anyone respected in the game of football.

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Teams were allowed to hit Montana, so spare me this crap. 

11 TDs, 0 INTS, zero losses in Super Bowls and for all of you idiots who are gonna scream about Jerry Rice, Montana won two SBs before he ever heard Rice's name. Brady couldn't win with Randy Moss. 

If the refs didn't let anyone touch Montana and called the same bs PI calls they get today then this wouldn't be a discussion.  Brady is the beneficiary of systematic cheating, a game catered to the

Leonard Marshall broke Montana's back with the crown of his helmet and there wasn't a single flag thrown on the play. You literally cannot lay a finger on Brady above the numbers without it raining flags. Just stop.

If a guy hit Tom Brady like that now he'd be fined a million bucks and kicked out of the league. 

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The cap exists because of unrestricted free agency, which didn't exist when Montana played and makes it infinitely easier to build a team and maintain it. You can't just say salary cap without context and think it is actually meaningful.

 

 

Kleck you hate the Pats and Brady you don't give them credit for anything..

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Delhomme led his O to 219pts in the 4th qtr and Brady had to lead his O to 18 to win the game.

Russell Wilson is a top QB in this league

Kurt warner is going to be a HOFer

Mcnabb was very good

 

the only QB that wasn't a top QB was delhomme was a PB QB.  are those guys marino and Elway? No but marino and Elway didn't have a lot of help and that was the job of the SF D.

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The cap exists because of unrestricted free agency, which didn't exist when Montana played and makes it infinitely easier to build a team and maintain it. You can't just say salary cap without context and think it is actually meaningful.

 

 

actually Joe's last 2 years saw unrestricted free agency but the prime of his career(when he was in SF) they had the advantage of no FA and were able to keep those great teams together. 

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Man don't waste your time. There are some posters whose prime objective is to hate Brady, don't even debate against it.

Brady is on Montana's level, just as of now not better than Montana on less he wins another SB. That's universally looked at by anyone respected in the game of football.

it's to be expected, Brady plays for a hated div rival that has dominated us and the league so most jet fans will not give him the respect he deserves.

If a guy hit Tom Brady like that now he'd be fined a million bucks and kicked out of the league. 

check the clips I posted

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If a guy hit Tom Brady like that now he'd be fined a million bucks and kicked out of the league. 

The guy curled up like a question mark against Michael Strahan and Justin Tuck, but yeah, he'd hold up against sociopathic felons like Haley and LT.

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actually Joe's last 2 years saw unrestricted free agency but the prime of his career(when he was in SF) they had the advantage of no FA and were able to keep those great teams together. 

Dude, parity = mediocrity. 

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You're insane. Leonard Marshall weighs roughly twice what Nate Clements weighs and he came down right on top of Montana, effectively hitting him twice. 

the hit itself is bigger.

how about this one? Marshall listed at 288, Alford 280.  there are a million examples, to say Brady doesn't get hit is just foolish.

 

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the hit itself is bigger.

how about this one? Marshall listed at 288, Alford 280.  there are a million examples, to say Brady doesn't get hit is just foolish.

 

Yes he gets hit. Then the flag comes out and the hits stop and/or we've been moved into the Red Zone. 

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Are you denying that the game is extremely different than in Montana's time? Be objective.

 

 

This was for Ghost in pads.

no one is denying that it's not, but that doesn't take away from any QB of this era, it still comes down to ability and talent. It doesn't matter how much the rules have changed because just like the rules, the athletes have changed to. They are bigger, stronger and faster. If you want to just "hang your hat" on "because you can't hit a QB".

 

Than do not give Peyton, Brees, Big Ben, or Rodgers any credit either because they are in the same era where the league wan's high scores and no one could hit any offensive player.

still it's not a very good argument you could put up, free agency is another big factor, as well. Brady won his first 3 SBs with no HOF offensive weapons, and I know someone hating brady is gonna bring up vinatieri, please, if you really trying to have a serious debate.

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In the 80's Brady would have constantly been questionable on the injury report with a sore vaj.

to question that mans toughness is insane and all we can do is compare players against their eras.  Brady has dominated his era more than Joe dominated his.

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to question that mans toughness is insane and all we can do is compare players against their eras.  Brady has dominated his era more than Joe dominated his.

going a decade between cheating-aided SB wins is not domination.  he's a compiler.

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The guy curled up like a question mark against Michael Strahan and Justin Tuck, but yeah, he'd hold up against sociopathic felons like Haley and LT.

It's ridiculous. He took a dive in the red zone Sunday on Mo's sack. He could have slipped up and to his right and easily forced Mo to overpursue but his instinct was to curl up in the fetal position and avoid contact. The only reason anyone calls it smart is because he wins. If he was a .500 QB every one would agree that he is the biggest pussy to ever play the position. 

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MUCH harder to win consistently in this era than in the 80s.

Man i'm telling you, do not waste your time. Anyone with sense knows this. Just let it be with those type of posters

Going by them..we need to take away from baseball players, hockey  and basketball players of this era because their success is skewed because of the rule changes from era to era.

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Brady never lost a playoff game 49-3 Joe did..LOL 

I don't want to make it like I am bashing Joe, I think both are very worthy for the mythical title of best of all time but Montana led O's to 3 points twice in playoff losses, the least amount of points Brady ever led an O to was 13.

 

 

 

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going a decade between cheating-aided SB wins is not domination.  he's a compiler.

his team is always competing for championships, they win the division every year, they have made 9 AFC Championship games.  9 chances at SBs and made it 6 times.  That is incredible.

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