Paradis Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I would think hunter Henry the Arkansas tight end would be a good pick at 20. I hate drafting tight ends in the first but that guy is special. I like Henry a lot (duh), and he's got a good chance to be selected in the first based on his smooth receiving chops... as for the jets, I wish we ran more "12 personnel" that uses 2 TEs but we often run 10 or 01 with 4 WRs and 1/no TEs... drafting Henry would be saying we give up on Amaro, and I don't think they'll be that hasty. Not with the "other" Henry, Elliot, Coleman, and other playmakers on offense likely to be available at #20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's that time of year for us already unfortunately but I saw this: @TonyPauline Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's that time of year for us already unfortunately but I saw this: @TonyPauline Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season that's nice, but unless they trade up they're not getting lynch or goff. does this mean hackenburg or cook? who else, the guy from north dakota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 that's nice, but unless they trade up they're not getting lynch or goff. does this mean hackenburg or cook? who else, the guy from north dakota? Basically that's your top 5 at the position. 2 first round hopefuls, a Michigan state maybe, Penn State's own Ryan Leaf, and a guy from North Dakota who's been playing against CFL competition. An underwhelming group to say the least. Lynch and Goff will go top 10... someone will probably fall in love with Cook (pray it won't be us) and you're left with Wentz. I wouldn't spend #20 on that question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Basically that's your top 5 at the position. 2 first round hopefuls, a Michigan state maybe, Penn State's own Ryan Leaf, and a guy from North Dakota who's been playing against CFL competition. An underwhelming group to say the least. Lynch and Goff will go top 10... someone will probably fall in love with Cook (pray it won't be us) and you're left with Wentz. I wouldn't spend #20 on that question mark. a team like the eagles or rams may reach for cook. it's unclear if a guy they can get in the 2nd round is even as good a prospect at petty, except for maybe a familiarity with a pro style offense. and mccags doesn't seem the type to reach for a qb, given they didn't at houston and how he drafted last year for value rather than need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Via Tony Pauline: Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season Petty was a 4th rnd pick & I'm hearing other things which lead many to believe they feel the need to bring in another young QB Love Wentz but don't think he's Rd 1 at this point. Status of wrist & ability to practice @ Senior Bowl will determine much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Maybe we can trade our #2 and some magic beans to move up to the 4 spot like when drafting Sanchez. All we need is Mangini to land Dallas (okay maybe SF). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We're still not good enough to be picky to the point of drafting by position. You do that when you're 1 or 2 players from the Super Bowl. Best player available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Via Tony Pauline: Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season Petty was a 4th rnd pick & I'm hearing other things which lead many to believe they feel the need to bring in another young QB Love Wentz but don't think he's Rd 1 at this point. Status of wrist & ability to practice @ Senior Bowl will determine much This is stupid reporting. The Jets already know what position they're targeting but they dont even know what QB's are coming out? I'm pretty confident, the Jets have no clue who are what they're taking at #20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is stupid reporting. The Jets already know what position they're targeting but they dont even know what QB's are coming out? I'm pretty confident, the Jets have no clue who are what they're taking at #20. thats good because he said first 2 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is stupid reporting. The Jets already know what position they're targeting but they dont even know what QB's are coming out? I'm pretty confident, the Jets have no clue who are what they're taking at #20. I'd take that as a way communicating where their heads are at... The search for Spock didn't end with Fitz's revelatory year - is all that message is intimating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is stupid reporting. The Jets already know what position they're targeting but they dont even know what QB's are coming out? I'm pretty confident, the Jets have no clue who are what they're taking at #20. I read mid season that jets scouts were at cal watching goff. I'm sure Todd Bowles can't say who he thinks we should draft but I can see a scenario that our scouting staff has already been watching these guys closely. Maybe even mccagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Via Tony Pauline: Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season Petty was a 4th rnd pick & I'm hearing other things which lead many to believe they feel the need to bring in another young QB Love Wentz but don't think he's Rd 1 at this point. Status of wrist & ability to practice @ Senior Bowl will determine much Cool - we have more reporting with unnamed sources. Jets are likely going BPA even at the #20 spot. And, when drafting for need, pretty much everyone realizes we need OLB. Also, last year, Mac added via FA to fill the major holes and then drafted BPA in first round. Expect the same (with a smaller amount of money to spend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We need a playmaker. Whether that's a RB/WR/TE/LBer, I don't care. We need guys that can make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 thats good because he said first 2 rounds I assumed that he meant, taking a QB with one of the picks in the first 2 rounds. Isnt that every teams wish without a franchise QB? I'd take that as a way communicating where their heads are at... The search for Spock didn't end with Fitz's revelatory year - is all that message is intimating. Good point and thats how it should be...but like I said above, it shouldnt be a surprise. Every team without a QB is hoping to find one in the first 2 rounds. I read mid season that jets scouts were at cal watching goff. I'm sure Todd Bowles can't say who he thinks we should draft but I can see a scenario that our scouting staff has already been watching these guys closely. Maybe even mccagnan. I would hope the Jets have scouts out there watching prospects. And I'm not saying this is wrong but it just stupid duh type of reporting. Ofcourse they want a QB in the first 2 rounds but acting like that is what they're doing when they dont who is even coming out is just bad reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is not a good QB draft. No blue chippers. That is good. When you are picking 20th you are not getting a blue chipper. Reminds me of Bledose. Prefer Jared Goff who reminds me of Montana. Who would you rather have, Bledsoe or Montana. I would bet that prospect compared to Bledsoe fare 90% better than guys compared to Montana. It's like every WR that runs a 4.6 being compared to Rice. Would you pass on Jerry Rice? No, but he didn't really run 4.6 and those sh*tty prospects aren't Jerry Rice. (Jordan White!) see if the 49ers are willing to give us the rights to Anthony Davis for a mid round pick You ready to roll the dice on Jake Long yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I assumed that he meant, taking a QB with one of the picks in the first 2 rounds. Isnt that every teams wish without a franchise QB? Good point and thats how it should be...but like I said above, it shouldnt be a surprise. Every team without a QB is hoping to find one in the first 2 rounds. I would hope the Jets have scouts out there watching prospects. And I'm not saying this is wrong but it just stupid duh type of reporting. Ofcourse they want a QB in the first 2 rounds but acting like that is what they're doing when they dont who is even coming out is just bad reporting. i'd be more concerned if they weren't scouting qbs. but unlike tanny i don't think they're reaching for one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Cool - we have more reporting with unnamed sources. Jets are likely going BPA even at the #20 spot. And, when drafting for need, pretty much everyone realizes we need OLB. Also, last year, Mac added via FA to fill the major holes and then drafted BPA in first round. Expect the same (with a smaller amount of money to spend). cool. He didn't limit it to 20. Whatever. Enjoy the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hackenberg is absolutely a blue chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Here are 2 Wentz videos. I particularly like the tape against Iowa State, a team from a power 5 conference: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/carson-wentz-vs-south-dakota-state-2015/ http://draftbreakdown.com/video/carson-wentz-vs-south-dakota-state-2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hackenberg's mobility makes Drew Bledsoe look like Michael Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 cool. He didn't limit it to 20. Whatever. Enjoy the offseason. Unnamed source -- made up in my mind. If the BPA in round 1 is an OL; then I would expect we likely go OLB in the second. That was kind of my point - so that would mean not in first 2 rounds unless we trade Mo or something. It should be fun to watch, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Here are 2 Wentz videos. I particularly like the tape against Iowa State, a team from a power 5 conference: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/carson-wentz-vs-south-dakota-state-2015/ http://draftbreakdown.com/video/carson-wentz-vs-south-dakota-state-2015/ Wentz must have a lot of interweb fans... I've never seen a small school guy with so many videos. There's a gazillion on Youtube... I'll be dinning on them later this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That is good. When you are picking 20th you are not getting a blue chipper. I would bet that prospect compared to Bledsoe fare 90% better than guys compared to Montana. It's like every WR that runs a 4.6 being compared to Rice. Would you pass on Jerry Rice? No, but he didn't really run 4.6 and those sh*tty prospects aren't Jerry Rice. (Jordan White!) You ready to roll the dice on Jake Long yet? did Anthony Davis become 30 and wrecked by injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We need a playmaker. Whether that's a RB/WR/TE/LBer, I don't care. We need guys that can make plays. hunter Henry is your guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Via Tony Pauline: Insiders tell me New York Jets will target a QB in the 1st two rounds. Team has been extensively scouting the top QB prospects all season Petty was a 4th rnd pick & I'm hearing other things which lead many to believe they feel the need to bring in another young QB Love Wentz but don't think he's Rd 1 at this point. Status of wrist & ability to practice @ Senior Bowl will determine much are these the same insiders that told Pauline Kyle Wilson was a franchise Corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I read mid season that jets scouts were at cal watching goff. I'm sure Todd Bowles can't say who he thinks we should draft but I can see a scenario that our scouting staff has already been watching these guys closely. Maybe even mccagnan. I barely know anything about the guy (beyond reading a little and watching a couple of videos) but I'm all in on Goff (if the front office likes him, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I barely know anything about the guy (beyond reading a little and watching a couple of videos) but I'm all in on Goff (if the front office likes him, of course). I really like Goff, I hope we have a shot at him, but it's highly unlikely. I read reports about Macc personally scouting Goff a couple of times this year. Here is a taste of Goff: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jared-goff-vs-air-force-2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I really like Goff, I hope we have a shot at him, but it's highly unlikely. I read reports about Macc personally scouting Goff a couple of times this year. Here is a taste of Goff: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jared-goff-vs-air-force-2015/ I watched for about a minute. I also want the jets to draft Weston Steelhammer. No idea if he can play but what a name! http://www.goairforcefalcons.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/weston_steelhammer_861755.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Blurb from ESPN article. The 6-foot-4, 236-pound Hackenberg threw for 2,995 yards and 20 touchdowns as a true freshman in 2013. Hackenberg threw only 12 touchdown passes with 15 interceptions last year -- a decline that had plenty do with a bad offensive line and a new playbook -- but the expectations are sky high for him again. UMass head coach Mark Whipple, a former Pittsburgh Steelersquarterbacks coach, compared Hackenberg to Ben Roethlisberger last year and told reporters that Hackenberg would've been the first player picked in the 2014 draft had he been eligible after his freshman year. Said one AFC scout: "I've seen all three of these guys, and Hack is the best talent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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