Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Today just keeps getting better and better for Rex Ryan. lol. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000614532/article/cleveland-browns-fire-mike-pettine-gm-ray-farmer Cleveland Browns fire Mike Pettine, GM Ray Farmer 109 By Gregg Rosenthal Around The NFL Editor Published: Jan. 3, 2016 at 07:06 p.m. Updated: Jan. 3, 2016 at 07:40 p.m. The Cleveland Browns are rebooting the machine once again. Coach Mike Pettine and general manager Ray Farmer have been fired following the team's loss to theSteelers, the team announced in a statement. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport first reported the Farmer news. Pettine posted a 10-22 overall record after taking over as Cleveland's head coach prior to the 2014 season. Before joining the Browns, Pettine served as the defensive coordinator with the Buffalo Bills(2013) and New York Jets (2009-2012). It's telling that Pettine was peppered with questions about Manziel's whereabouts in what looks like his final press conference. Pettine, who looked like a man who knew his dream of coaching the Brownswas ending, was short when asked about whether Manziel was in Las Vegas on Saturday night. "I don't know. I wasn't," Pettine deadpanned to laughter in the room. Pettine went on to say it "would be disappointing" if the Manziel story was true. Pettine was handed Manziel as his first-round quarterback in 2014 and did his best to coach around the situation. The Browns started 7-4 last season before losing five straight to finish the season. The Browns have now fired their head coach five times since the last time any team in the AFC North made a coaching change. Farmer's brief tenure was similar to the other five Browns general managers that have held the job in Cleveland over the last eight years. He had regrettable first round picks, failed to find a quarterback, and didn't get long to fix his mistakes. This news comes less than six months after Haslam insisted to reporters that he would stick with Farmer and Pettine long term. "We're not going to blow things up. OK?" Haslam said during training camp. "I think we're on the right track, so we're not going to blow things up." A 3-13 record season has a way of changing things. Pettine's defense collapsed and the offense struggled to run the ball until late in the year. Farmer will be most remembered for his sour relationship with Pettine and for texting the Browns coaches last year during games, which resulted in a four-game suspension for violating league rules prohibiting electronic communication about competitive or strategic information during games. Farmer had four first round picks in two years, and three of them (Johnny Manziel, cornerback Justin Gilbert, offensive lineman Cameron Erving) struggled to live up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex will hire him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Very, very poorly run franchise. I know some of you have issues with Pettine, but that team is a disaster. 5 GMs in 8 years? What?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex will hire him, Doubt it. Pretty sure Pettine was the "rat" that gave info to reporters during the 2011 season. Plus he wanted to get out of Rex's shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 As bad as I feel tonight, I'm thankful I am not a Browns fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex will hire him, No he wont. I dont event think they're friends anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 As bad as I feel tonight, I'm thankful I am not a Browns fan. That franchise must have transgressed against the football gods or something. That team NEVER catches a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That franchise must have transgressed against the football gods or something. That team NEVER catches a break. You cant go back home. Its just never the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 that manziel kid, holy sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He'll sign on somewhere as a DC. The press there are already looking forward to the "anonymous" quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He'll sign on somewhere as a DC. The press there are already looking forward to the "anonymous" quotes. Bowles calls the defensive plays, but Pettine is definitely a better DC than Kacy Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No respectable GM candidate is taking that job unless the owner understands from day one Johnny Manziel is gone. I have no idea if Pettine can be a HC cause that franchise is a disaster but he should have resigned weeks ago with the way he got neutered on disciplining that turd. He knew he was going to get fired. I think telling the Browns to kick rocks after they went over his head on Manziel would have looked much better league wide. The other 31 teams know it's a sh*t show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Very, very poorly run franchise. I know some of you have issues with Pettine, but that team is a disaster. 5 GMs in 8 years? What?!? What HC or GM would want to go there? Career suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The reports are the owner and his wife will hire the coach and then the coach will help hire the GM. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The reports are the owner and his wife will hire the coach and then the coach will help hire the GM. Lol. If that's true I'll start pulling for Lebron to win cause that city has nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Pettine is a snake so I don't feel bad for him losing the job. The revolving door at GM and HC is itself part of the reason why there is no traction with that team. Nobody with the skills to turn that team around is so desperate for a job that they want to risk the smear on their resume of being fired after a couple bad years. The owners don't know how to find a suitable candidate and commit to them. Nobody wants that lack of commitment unless they think--foolishly--that they can be the ones to right that ship or believe it's the easy promotion to HC or GM and then a lateral position might follow. Otherwise, nobody of quality is going there. The revolving door is a sign that the owners are clueless. The situation in CLE is exactly why people insisting this team should draft a QB in the first round of every draft until we hit a franchise QB are just as clueless. Drafted QBs will know they have one shot with the team and if they aren't magic on day one there will be a another guy coming in next year. Who wants that risk? You'll see those players go back to college just to avoid our team. The lack of loyalty and sense that our front office has no trust in their own decisions will drive away free agents and draft picks at other positions. You just can't run a business that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Pettine is a snake so I don't feel bad for him losing the job. The revolving door at GM and HC is itself part of the reason why there is no traction with that team. Nobody with the skills to turn that team around is so desperate for a job that they want to risk the smear on their resume of being fired after a couple bad years. The owners don't know how to find a suitable candidate and commit to them. Nobody wants that lack of commitment unless they think--foolishly--that they can be the ones to right that ship or believe it's the easy promotion to HC or GM and then a lateral position might follow. Otherwise, nobody of quality is going there. The revolving door is a sign that the owners are clueless. The situation in CLE is exactly why people insisting this team should draft a QB in the first round of every draft until we hit a franchise QB are just as clueless. Drafted QBs will know they have one shot with the team and if they aren't magic on day one there will be a another guy coming in next year. Who wants that risk? You'll see those players go back to college just to avoid our team. The lack of loyalty and sense that our front office has no trust in their own decisions will drive away free agents and draft picks at other positions. You just can't run a business that way.well done. Good post, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He'll be the first HC to land a new gig. No way he's not a HC again by Tuesday. Collision low crossovers fellas. Read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Actually a nice little test of Davidoff's book here. In the event that he did go back to Rex, it's safe to say that some of that book is bullsh*t, because there's no way he'd willingly go back to being treated like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex was the real DC here Pettine was a glorified assistant and looked way out of his league as a head coach especially this past season. Just start Manziel your not winning anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rex was the real DC here Pettine was a glorified assistant and looked way out of his league as a head coach especially this past season. Just start Manziel your not winning anyway DC and head coach are different positions. When Pettine was the DC in Buffalo after leaving New York he didnt do bad at all. Also, if Rex was actually the DC while Pettine was in NY then it surely didnt show this year as the DC of a very talented Buffalo defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 DC and head coach are different positions. When Pettine was the DC in Buffalo after leaving New York he didnt do bad at all. Also, if Rex was actually the DC while Pettine was in NY then it surely didnt show this year as the DC of a very talented Buffalo defense. You mean the defense that we couldn't buy a third down conversion against in the first half and picked off Fitz 3 times in the 4th quarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 You mean the defense that we couldn't buy a third down conversion against in the first half and picked off Fitz 3 times in the 4th quarter? Yes. Only if that defense could have done that consistently for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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