32EBoozer Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 www.profootballtalk.com As to Bills running back LeSean McCoy, who is expected to be charged with aggravated assault in Philadelphia, the league won’t be using paid leave during the portion of the calendar in which all players are on unpaid leave. At some point, however, the players will return — and the wheels of justice often grind slowly. If McCoy chooses to fight the case through trial, he could miss all of the 2016 season, but with pay. The alternative would be to resolve the charges with a plea deal. The prosecutors will know that McCoy needs to get the case behind him in order to play, which means they’d potentially drive a harder bargain. If McCoy pleads guilty to anything before the start of the 2016 season, he’ll then face an unpaid suspension for a baseline of six games, which can be increased or decreased based on a variety of factors. From the team’s perspective, there’s no good solution. Already, $2.5 million of McCoy’s base salary is fully guaranteed for 2016. The remaining $2.3 million becomes fully guaranteed on March 9. A suspension would void the guarantees, and it also would allow the Bills to recover a portion of his signing bonus. Paid leave would have no impact on the guaranteed money; even if they cut McCoy now or while he’s on paid leave, they’ll still owe him the money. (That said, cutting him now would avoid the extra $2.3 million guaranteed.) For McCoy, the question becomes whether it’s more important to play in 2016 or to maximize his earnings. He could get all of his money for 2016 but then face an unpaid suspension in 2017, if he’s convicted in the next offseason. Or he could plead guilty sooner than later and lose a large chunk of his 2016 pay after being suspended by the league. Few will shed tears for McCoy, based on videos that seem to show him participating in an assault. Regardless, the league’s post-Rice protocols will put McCoy in a much more delicate spot than he would have been before 2014, when players who were facing charges typically played while the charges were pending, no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Quote Word around here is that Lesean was only fighting to protect the integrity of his shaolin temple and the police are sympathetic to his dojo so no harm no foul. 13-3, I think. Whoa Jeanie. That's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said: The prosecutors will know that McCoy needs to get the case behind him in order to play, which means they’d potentially drive a harder bargain. I can assure all of you that this kind of stuff happens. I know because I read The Art of the Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm pretty sure Rex will offer his wife's feet up to the prosecutor, and McCoy will just get some community service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I think Shady throws some cash at the cops and it all goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Does he have a history of these kinds of problems? i don't remember anything while he was on the Iggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, Xtina said: Does he have a history of these kinds of problems? i don't remember anything while he was on the Iggles I don't remember hearing of any trouble with the law. However, he's said and done things that lead me to believe he has quite a temper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, AFJF said: I think Shady throws some cash at the cops and it all goes away. I thought so too but after reading this article, it sounds like they are looking to press charges too. http://www.lineupassist.com/02-13-2016/nfl/Breaking-News-Warrant-out-for-Shadys-Arrest/168.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Whoa Jeanie. That's crazy. Huh???? Now you know I didn't post that comment LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I don't remember hearing of any trouble with the law. However, he's said and done things that lead me to believe he has quite a temper. If the Bills FO had any balls, they would have immediately cut him once the charges came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: If the Bills FO had any balls, they would have immediately cut him once the charges came out. I doubt that's going to happen PatsFan. The FO is big on giving players a second chance. The arrest is due to be made next week. I have a strong suspicion that a plea bargain is going to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 there's video ? he's probably toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: If the Bills FO had any balls, they would have immediately cut him once the charges came out. well, its not like he murdered someone and the team already knew he murdered people in another state already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Larz said: there's video ? he's probably toast. You're right but then again, once the defense attorney builds their case, it could be a totally different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I doubt that's going to happen PatsFan. The FO is big on giving players a second chance. The arrest is due to be made next week. I have a strong suspicion that a plea bargain is going to be made. Pats cut Aaron Hernandez 17 minutes after he was arrested. He was never indicted nor found guilty when the Pats cut ties. Bills should do the same thing, McCoy is nothing but a scumbag thug, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats cut Aaron Hernandez 17 minutes after he was arrested. He was never indicted nor found guilty when the Pats cut ties. Bills should do the same thing, McCoy is nothing but a scumbag thug, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. wait for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, jeaniec said: You're right but then again, once the defense attorney builds their case, it could be a totally different story. video is why ray rice is radioactive will never play again and hardy is still playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats cut Aaron Hernandez 17 minutes after he was arrested. He was never indicted nor found guilty when the Pats cut ties. Bills should do the same thing, McCoy is nothing but a scumbag thug, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. I have to agree with you about Shady. I think he has a real attitude/anger management problem. However, when I think of guys like Incognito, Kromer (coach), I tend to think that they will look the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 49 minutes ago, jeaniec said: You're right but then again, once the defense attorney builds their case, it could be a totally different story. The video shows him kicking someone on the ground. Hard to talk your way out of that. Plus they are talking aggravated battery. That's a felony. Originally they were saying one of the cops might have a fractured skull. if that's true the question won't be a suspension, but how much prison time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 #FeelTheBern Whoa Jeanie. No politics here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 23 minutes ago, flgreen said: The video shows him kicking someone on the ground. Hard to talk your way out of that. Plus they are talking aggravated battery. That's a felony. Originally they were saying one of the cops might have a fractured skull. if that's true the question won't be a suspension, but how much prison time I know flgreen. I think there will be a plea deal or out of court settlement. However, he's a real punk and he deserves what he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I haven't heard anything about if the cop does have a fractured skull. If he does, I strongly suspect there won't be any deal. On duty or off duty, You can't stomp a cop who's on the ground, fracture his skull and walk away. Particularly not in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, flgreen said: I haven't heard anything about if the cop does have a fractured skull. If he does, I strongly suspect there won't be any deal. On duty or off duty, You can't stomp a cop who's on the ground, fracture his skull and walk away. Particularly not in Philly. Nah, from what I understand, when you put 2 cops in the hospital, you just toss them some dough and the whole thing goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Didn't them and the cops get into a fight? Why would charges be pressed if they were both fighting each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I have to agree with you about Shady. I think he has a real attitude/anger management problem. However, when I think of guys like Incognito, Kromer (coach), I tend to think that they will look the other way. Look, I think you guys have a great thing going on in Buffalo. Taylor will explode on the NFL scene next year (he has great physical skills with a year experience under his belt.) Get rid of scumbags like McCoy, he's a piece of $hit who will only hurt the team. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Colgateman said: Didn't them and the cops get into a fight? Why would charges be pressed if they were both fighting each other? The story that's being circulated is they were arguing over a bottle of champagne. One of Mc Coys companions escalated the situation by suddenly punching one of the cops. You can argue, but once you throw a punch, unless you are threatened with bodily harm, that becomes a crime. Again according to reports the others jumped in, and stomped the cop. Once the stomping starts, the mutual assault defense goes out the window, and the aggravated battery comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats cut Aaron Hernandez 17 minutes after he was arrested. He was never indicted nor found guilty when the Pats cut ties. Bills should do the same thing, McCoy is nothing but a scumbag thug, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. so murdering 2 guys equals a barfight, man you are one phucked up dude mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The story that's being circulated is they were arguing over a bottle of champagne. One of Mc Coys companions escalated the situation by suddenly punching one of the cops. You can argue, but once you throw a punch, unless you are threatened with bodily harm, that becomes a crime. Again according to reports the others jumped in, and stomped the cop. Once the stomping starts, the mutual assault defense goes out the window, and the aggravated battery comes in. Ah, I had read somewhere that they got into a bar fight over the champagne and one of the cops ended up with a fractured skull, but yeah if it happened the way you said Mccoy is facing jail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 44 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Look, I think you guys have a great thing going on in Buffalo. Taylor will explode on the NFL scene next year (he has great physical skills with a year experience under his belt.) Get rid of scumbags like McCoy, he's a piece of $hit who will only hurt the team. Just my opinion. I think you're right but I don't think they will get rid of him. I base my opinion on previous players who have gotten into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats cut Aaron Hernandez 17 minutes after he was arrested. He was never indicted nor found guilty when the Pats cut ties. Bills should do the same thing, McCoy is nothing but a scumbag thug, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. and they already knew everything before the arrest but didn't do the right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Whoa Jeanie. No politics here. Now I know you're making things up. No way on Bern - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A plea deal after beating the sh*t out of a couple cops? I won't hold my breathe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 They were off-duty officers. The players didn't know they were police officers. I don't believe this is going to be treated as an offense towards an officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, jeaniec said: They were off-duty officers. The players didn't know they were police officers. I don't believe this is going to be treated as an offense towards an officer but you can see the difficulties in just getting a plea deal, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, jeaniec said: They were off-duty officers. The players didn't know they were police officers. I don't believe this is going to be treated as an offense towards an officer If he apologizes and promises not to do it again, they'll probably forget the whole thing ever happened and all go out for ice cream together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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