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Lego My Lageman

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Didnt know Brian Schottenheimer is the Colts new QB coach. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/11/brian-schottenheimer-were-not-changing-the-way-andrew-luck-plays/

 

The Colts fired offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton last season and replaced him with Rob Chudzinski before making an offseason change at quarterbacks coach with Brian Schottenheimer taking over for Clyde Christensen.

Those changes were made in order to get better results from the team’s offense than the Colts got during the 2015 season, changes that continued in the draft when the Colts drafted four offensive linemen to join a unit that didn’t do its job very well. When it comes to quarterback Andrew Luck, though, Schottenheimer says they aren’t trying to do something new.

“We’re not going to change the way Andrew plays,” Schottenheimer said, via CBS4 in Indianapolis. “Andrew’s going to play the game. You’ve got to let Andrew play.”

The way Luck has played over his four NFL seasons has often worked out well for the Colts, but everything hasn’t been perfect. He has turned the ball over 84 times in his career and the team has already said they want him to do more to protect himselfwhile trying to extend plays like the one that ended with a lacerated kidney last season.

Those things may not call for changing the way Luck plays, but they will call for some changes to the decisions that he makes on the field. His ability to do so without losing any of the positive things he brings to the offense will have much to do with how much the other changes help the Colts in 2016.

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Brian did a very good job for us as an OC, it's a shame he became the scapegoat for the organization and as a QB coach for SD Drew Brees credits him for helping to develop him but let's keep bashing the guy b/c of misguided views on him from whiny fans.

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5 minutes ago, Lego My Lageman said:

 

“We’re not going to change the way Andrew plays,” Schottenheimer said, via CBS4 in Indianapolis. “Andrew’s going to play the game. You’ve got to let Andrew play.”

 

They forgot the 2nd half of that quote, where Schottenheimer says "But we are going to put the fullback in motion.  Kind of a lot.  After we sign a fullback, of course."

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11 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Brian did a very good job for us as an OC, it's a shame he became the scapegoat for the organization and as a QB coach for SD Drew Brees credits him for helping to develop him but let's keep bashing the guy b/c of misguided views on him from whiny fans.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Lego My Lageman said:

The back is motion, the back returns to his original spot on the line. Rinse repeat=Superbowl

which is funny b/c w/ him as a OC we got closer to the SB than at any point since we made it during the 1968 season and we may have made it if not for our overrated defense collapsing in our biggest game.

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13 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

it's the truth but too many people don't understand and need a scapegoat.

There's not any single person to blame for the sh*ttiness of the offense during his years, there's a great many, but he most certainly makes that list.  There is absolutely no defense that can be made for him other than you doing the extreme opposite of what you're accusing others, insisting on blaming every else but Schitty, for no justifiable reason.

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9 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Brian did a very good job for us as an OC, it's a shame he became the scapegoat for the organization and as a QB coach for SD Drew Brees credits him for helping to develop him but let's keep bashing the guy b/c of misguided views on him from whiny fans.

Brian had a GREAT first year as OC, he really did, but once the league figured him out, he literally made zero adjustments and his BS line nonsense caused much more harm than good. His play design was very, very suspect. There were often 3 WR's in the vicinity of his primary target, drawing 3-4 DB's to the vicinity of his primary receiver. He did an awful job with Sanchez, awful.

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2 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

There's not any single person to blame for the sh*ttiness of the offense during his years, there's a great many, but he most certainly makes that list.  There is absolutely no defense that can be made for him other than you doing the extreme opposite of what you're accusing others, insisting on blaming every else but Schitty, for no justifiable reason.

our O wasn't shi**y outside of 2007 when we had a million injuries and a bad, young QB starting most of the year.  Weere our Os great? No but they were efficient and considering what he had to work with and the constant change he did a good job for us.

2006: first season w/ us had damaged Chad Pennington coming off TWO rotator cuff surgeries on his throwing shoulder in previous year, went into the season w/ Kevan Barlow as #1 RB yet O played well and we made the playoffs

2007: Chad was hurt again then we played most of season w/ Kellen Clemens.

2008: got Favre a month before the season in a new system for the first time in 16 years.  changed O to cater to favre and favre threw away our season.

2009: rookie Sanchez who was probably rushed, had him playing well the majority of that season and playing very well in playoffs. went into season w/ rookie QB and Chansi Stuckey as a starting WR, had to adjust to Braylon after week 4 trade

2010: sanchez elevated to top 10ish QB and the O was responsible for winning most of our games despite Holmes missing 4 games, edwards being suspended for a qtr at Miami(where O scored 14 pts in that qtr w/o him or Holmes) and Cotch being banged up much of the season.  again had his QB playing well in postseason and we had our best chance at a SB since 1968.

2011: mark wasn't as good as 2010 but the #s went up significantly where he set a franchise record for total TDs this w/o a good run game and w/ 3 of our top 5 weapons entering the season out of football in 2012.

we fire him and then mark his worst season in the league in 2012.

 

 

2 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said:

Brian had a GREAT first year as OC, he really did, but once the league figured him out, he literally made zero adjustments and his BS line nonsense caused much more harm than good. His play design was very, very suspect. There were often 3 WR's in the vicinity of his primary target, drawing 3-4 DB's to the vicinity of his primary receiver. He did an awful job with Sanchez, awful.

if the league figured him out how did we make 2 championship games?  it would be impossible w/ a bad offense to do that.

he was actually doing a fine job w/ Mark, what killed Mark was letting go of his weapons and not replacing them and letting Brian go.  he had his only bad year for us in 2012 w/o Brian and missing all the key guys from the '09/'10 runs.

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3 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

What a genius.

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We've been over this a million times.  That play is on Sanchez.  Quick throw to McKnight is an easy catch and scramble forward for the additional two yards.  Same can be said for the WR at the top of the screen.  Our QB threw it to the guy who was double covered, as opposed to the one who settled open under a zone.

Not to defend Shotty, who thought he was smarter than everyone, which ended up being his downfall.

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1 minute ago, rex-n-effect said:

What a genius.

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I was waiting for someone to post this.  A fantastic combination of the dumbest play call imaginable by Schitty, topped off with the most idiotic possible read by Sanchez.  It is the ultimate evidence that, not only does neither one get to completely blame the other for their own failures, it's just plain sad for anyone to actually try to praise the both of them.  Dumb and dumber in its truest form.

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46 minutes ago, Lego My Lageman said:

Didnt know Brian Schottenheimer is the Colts new QB coach. 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/11/brian-schottenheimer-were-not-changing-the-way-andrew-luck-plays/

 

 

“We’re not going to change the way Andrew plays,” Schottenheimer said, via CBS4 in Indianapolis. “Andrew’s going to play the game. You’ve got to let Andrew play.”

 

If I'm Herm Edwards I am calling a copyright attorney.

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1 minute ago, Bleedin Green said:

I was waiting for someone to post this.  A fantastic combination of the dumbest play call imaginable by Schitty, topped off with the most idiotic possible read by Sanchez.  It is the ultimate evidence that, not only does neither one get to completely blame the other for their own failures, it's just plain sad for anyone to actually try to praise the both of them.  Dumb and dumber in its truest form.

yep, so bad we two title games.  every OC makes bad calls, every QB makes bad reads and throws but let's discuss one random play in a game our D gave up 30 pts and let's pretend neither did anything good in their time here.  we just magically were awarded spots in conf title games.

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5 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

our O wasn't shi**y outside of 2007 when we had a million injuries and a bad, young QB starting most of the year.  Weere our Os great? No but they were efficient and considering what he had to work with and the constant change he did a good job for us.

2006: first season w/ us had damaged Chad Pennington coming off TWO rotator cuff surgeries on his throwing shoulder in previous year, went into the season w/ Kevan Barlow as #1 RB yet O played well and we made the playoffs

2007: Chad was hurt again then we played most of season w/ Kellen Clemens.

2008: got Favre a month before the season in a new system for the first time in 16 years.  changed O to cater to favre and favre threw away our season.

2009: rookie Sanchez who was probably rushed, had him playing well the majority of that season and playing very well in playoffs. went into season w/ rookie QB and Chansi Stuckey as a starting WR, had to adjust to Braylon after week 4 trade

2010: sanchez elevated to top 10ish QB and the O was responsible for winning most of our games despite Holmes missing 4 games, edwards being suspended for a qtr at Miami(where O scored 14 pts in that qtr w/o him or Holmes) and Cotch being banged up much of the season.  again had his QB playing well in postseason and we had our best chance at a SB since 1968.

2011: mark wasn't as good as 2010 but the #s went up significantly where he set a franchise record for total TDs this w/o a good run game and w/ 3 of our top 5 weapons entering the season out of football in 2012.

we fire him and then mark his worst season in the league in 2012.

None of this proves him to be good in any way, it's nothing but a looooooong list of excuses why it wasn't his fault that they constantly sucked.  2010 was the only year the Jets offense wasn't near the bottom of the league on offense.  So what's your argument... 1 out of 6 ain't bad?  The only thing that has even the slightest bit of validity is that you may be right that he wasn't as awful of an OC as Sparano.  Hardly saying much, considering most on this board could probably be better than Sparano was.

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29 minutes ago, Mainejet said:

Schotty will look like a genius because he has a QB to work with. He never had a QB in NY. Sanchez was garbage.

Not a factor, a coach is supposed to improve a player using a meticulously crafted game plan that includes adjustments. Schotty didn't do that.*

 

*In hindsight, he did suck THO. Alot of people didn't need hindsight.

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6 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

yep, so bad we two title games.  every OC makes bad calls, every QB makes bad reads and throws but let's discuss one random play in a game our D gave up 30 pts and let's pretend neither did anything good in their time here.  we just magically were awarded spots in conf title games.

Once again... excuses.  That is quite literally the only thing you have provided.  Granted, those excuses are a valid enough argument for why the failures were not 100% Schitty's fault, and I certainly agree they were not.  But so far, you have provided zero reason to believe that he was by any definition "good".

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