JiFtheOracle Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: He named Wilkerson and Sheldon the team captains on coin toss after benching them for a second in the last Fins meeting lol... dude is clueless. You're ******* kidding me? This ******* guy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I didn't know that. The question is why did TB do this? Did these guys show anything to warrant it? I doubt it and as another poster posted that maybe it was his way to motivate them... Frankly, TB is clueless HC. Like him, his team has regressed and I said over six weeks ago that I lost faith in his ability and his CS ability to turn the season around. Unfortunately, they have proven me correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Does it even matter at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, rangerous said: the receivers are very good. but i just want to point out for the umpteenth time that they could have the second coming of joe willie as qb and they still would have a bad record. this team didn't get its record because fitz was qb. it got it because the defensive secondary can't stop a nosebleed and oline just hasn't been very good. not mention the two large malcontents that are wilk and sheldon. i can understand bowles making sheldon and wilk captains for the game. he is doing his level best to moivate these guys since if they play as well as they can the jets will win. obviously the ploy didn't work. sheldon is acting like he's from st louis and wilk is still feeling sorry for himself that he's not being paid enough. now maybe this didn't work but not working also tells bowles who he wants in the locker room. it would be great for the jets to trade both of these guys. I really do not care how many times you say it. I know the secondary has not played well this year, but that was a surprise. I still believe that the Jets win a few more games with better QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 This makes perfect sense in Bowles head...if I name them captains for a coin toss then they are sure to throw off their season long malaise for a meaningless game and put some effort forth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 52 minutes ago, LWC611 said: I really do not care how many times you say it. I know the secondary has not played well this year, but that was a surprise. I still believe that the Jets win a few more games with better QB play. They could win a few more games and they would still have a bad record. So, you are both right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 32 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: This makes perfect sense in Bowles head...if I name them captains for a coin toss then they are sure to throw off their season long malaise for a meaningless game and put some effort forth! Was it Mo's best game of the season? Sadly maybe Bowles was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, peebag said: This. The Jets aren't going to be competitive for a few years. The Jets become competitive the very minute they get better than average QB play. That's it. There's no rebuild plan that sets rules around how long rebuilds take. You are rebuilding until you aren't, and 99 times out of 100 the moment you aren't is directly tied to the QB. Pretty cut and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 47 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: The Jets become competitive the very minute they get better than average QB play. That's it. There's no rebuild plan that sets rules around how long rebuilds take. You are rebuilding until you aren't, and 99 times out of 100 the moment you aren't is directly tied to the QB. Pretty cut and dry. Partly....but no team is competitive w/o good OL, LB, and secondary play. Sorry - it's going to take awhile to turn this sucka out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I have been really critical of bowles, but this is an old idea the jets voted joe namath captain not because he deserved it, but to try to wake him up from all the drinking and int's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sorry Larz, but I make my captains based on the guys that is going to have a positive impact to motivate the rest of the team, because they lead by example and inspire, not as some ridiculous idea of motivating the two slack asses who you're walking out there. Captains are your leaders. The guys who set the tone and example for everyone else to follow. It's an honor bestowed on your most deserving players. Instead TB names the two guys with the biggest piss poor attitudes. The two guys that are the last 2 representatives who you would want the troops to emulate. The fact that TB put those two clowns as team captains shows me he doesn't have a clue how to run a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Sorry Larz, but I make my captains based on the guys that is going to have a positive impact to motivate the rest of the team, because they lead by example and inspire, not as some ridiculous idea of motivating the two slack asses who you're walking out there. Captains are your leaders. The guys who set the tone and example for everyone else to follow. It's an honor bestowed on your most deserving players. Instead TB names the two guys with the biggest piss poor attitudes. The two guys that are the last 2 representatives who you would want the troops to emulate. The fact that TB put those two clowns as team captains shows me he doesn't have a clue how to run a team. he proved that when sheldumb told everyone "you will never see my name in the paper again" about 3 hours before we did and bowles let it slide its obvious the pitchforks are out now and if he stopped to let an old lady cross the street jets fans would scream at him for slowing traffic, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Larz said: he proved that when sheldumb told everyone "you will never see my name in the paper again" about 3 hours before we did and bowles let it slide its obvious the pitchforks are out now and if he stopped to let an old lady cross the street jets fans would scream at him for slowing traffic, lol Agree about the pitchforks. But I actually still supported TB until hearing of this. In my opinion he's gone beyond merely failing to punish poor behavior and attitude, he's now rewarding it. For this reason, it's time. Just a horrible msg to send to those two players and the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 This has the feel of Rex naming Holmes captain, hoping the extra responsibility would make them more accountable to the team and thus become leaders......hopefully this works out better than the Holmes experiment, but I doubt it willSent from my SM-N915T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Its a tired ineffective management tactic. A staple of mangers in government agencies that is an insult to those who do their job without any special attention or treatment. Name the loafer employee of the month, give them a better parking space and shame them into giving more effort. This HC is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 it proves he has no sense of management and should be fired-you reward positive performance you punish poor performance -oh wait coach has shown he is clueless lets give him a raise and an extension as that is what you do in the bizzarro world that this guy lives in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, peebag said: Partly....but no team is competitive w/o good OL, LB, and secondary play. Sorry - it's going to take awhile to turn this sucka out. Ben Rothlesberger has proven that wrong most of the time he's been in Pittsburgh. His OL this year is probably the best he's had, at least in the past 5 years. Secondary is trash almost always since Polamalu retired, and in part during his time. LBers used to be great, now they are meh... they are still competitive. Those things are nice-to-haves, and there is validity to your point.... but QBs are must-haves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 WTF are you talking about? ...Ben has ALWAYS had a good running game Bettis/Parker/Mendenhall/Bell and good/great receivers Burris/Wallace/Brown/Hines Ward Miller Plus the greatest safety ever in Polamalu and Dick Lebeau calling the D. Yea he makes plays but don't discredit the team around him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 16 hours ago, bostonmajet said: They could win a few more games and they would still have a bad record. So, you are both right Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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