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1 hour ago, thshadow said:

It *was* a safe pick, in that his floor was high - it's extremely likely he'll be a starter for many years.  No one is saying he's a bust.  No one is saying he shouldn't start.

The issue most people have is that it's extremely unlikely for him to be a real difference maker - and that was somewhat easy to predict even before the draft.

Despite all of the announcers gushing over him (which I don't get), my feeling is that his impact on the defense is somewhere around the level of Demario Davis's.  Probably less than Davis.  Sure, Adams is a rookie, but even with growth, I think people have a hard time imagining someone playing his position (whatever it is) can be a consistent game changer.

 

I don't think anyone would claim he'd have more impact than a QB or a Pass Rusher but I don't think many people thought Mahomes or Watson were going to be good, both those QBs went to loaded rosters. I see why we didn't take them given the criticism that each received prior to the draft. That type of gamble makes sense for teams that have a strong supporting cast because they can absorb a swing and a miss easier than a team devoid of talent. It seemed pretty clear that we took the safest option at a position of need who as an added benefit looked like a huge lockerroom presence. I think McCown has shown enough for us to believe the team is not totally devoid of talent and that $90M and multiple draft picks will be added to support whatever QB we take. I don't think the decision was purely based on Adams vs Watson, I think it was sure thing vs potential polarizing QB who the majority of the scouts were unsure would translate to the NFL and may not have any help around him. I think we are far more confident this year to make a run at a QB.

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3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I don't think many people thought Mahomes or Watson were going to be good, both those QBs went to loaded rosters.

Watson excelled on a mediocre team before the injury. 

Mahome's has not taken a snap in the NFL. 

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5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Watson excelled on a mediocre team before the injury. 

Mahome's has not taken a snap in the NFL. 

I'm not really arguing Mahomes, more so arguing that the chiefs were a stacked roster who could roll the dice on a QB and have weapons/run game/defense to help transition that young QB.

You considered the Texans a mediocre roster outside of the QB position?? The Texans nearly beat the Patriots at home in the playoffs in spite of their QB in a league that heavily favors QB play going up against the best HC/QB tandem in the last 20 years. I'd say they had a pretty good team outside QB.

 

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17 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Mac is so hard right now

..the qb's he likes will be gone by the time we pick  :badmood:... so,.. he'll take the best OT still on the board  :unsure:

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

:beer:

 

 

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On 11/22/2017 at 2:36 PM, UnitedWhofans said:

It would be like me saying “Every fan speaking here is a sniveling worthless troll who love nothing more than to be miserable and whack off to misery”

Not all people are here

You literally do say that.

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On 11/22/2017 at 2:46 PM, Beerfish said:

Some people simply cannot fire out that being critical and skeptical of a team  that has totally proven my long term past performance they have no fing clue how to run their team does not = being a miserable troll.

The happy happy everything is great group are worse fans by a lot because they support abject failure and promote mediocre if not worst performance.  they seem to think the NFL is bantam football where every one gets  trophy and you are great for just showing up.

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On 11/22/2017 at 1:36 PM, Matt39 said:

Adams has made more plays at LB than at safety this year.

Not much of an endorsement seeing how sucky our LB’s are. 

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2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I haven’t visited this thread in a while, but I didn’t realize how hard the Jets and the media tried to turn Adams v Cam Newton into a thing. Embarrassing.

Anything NY Jets related gets exploited by the media whores. 

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4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Anything NY Jets related gets exploited by the media whores. 

we need 53 overdrafted and oddly uninspiring players who are unfraid to walk up to former MVPs and pout after giving up incredibly easy TDs to them. 

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16 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

we need 53 overdrafted and oddly uninspiring players who are unfraid to walk up to former MVPs and pout after giving up incredibly easy TDs to them. 

That would match our uninspiring HC who isn't afraid to make dumb excuses for failure. 

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Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer 

Jets rookie S Jamal Adams will be a very good player some day, but he still needs to improve his coverage skills. He has allowed a touchdown and a 23-yard reception that set up a TD by the Chargers. Adams is better near the line of scrimmage; he has to be better in space.

>    http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets

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