Villain The Foe Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 This year could very well be similar in terms of drama and talent. Hopefully the Jets are well within the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Love these kind of videos. Crazy to think guys like Rosen could slide because he might speak his mind, yet Eli comes right out saying he doesn't want to play for a team and he still gets picked first. Wonder what the twitter reaction would have been back then and if it would have effected anything. I don't think this year is as dramatic, it's more just up in the air of who goes where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Love these kind of videos. Crazy to think guys like Rosen could slide because he might speak his mind, yet Eli comes right out saying he doesn't want to play for a team and he still gets picked first. Wonder what the twitter reaction would have been back then and if it would have effected anything. I don't think this year is as dramatic, it's more just up in the air of who goes where. These are not the same situations. I don't think anyone really had a problem w/ Rosens comments on the Browns. Rosen speaks on issues that are very divisive. Throughout his years in NY, you haven't heard a pep out of Eli. He never offers the media anything despite their constant peppering of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I love stuff like this. NFL Networks Elway to Marino about the 83 draft is awesome. I'll watch it again before this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Wow. So, Big Ben was almost a Giant. Eli has been good but Big Ben was the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Villain The Foe said: This year could very well be similar in terms of drama and talent. Hopefully the Jets are well within the mix. Awesome. Never saw that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'm not sure there's a player who wields the power or carries as much weight as Eli did in that draft. He was the clear cut #1. Rivers and Roethlisberger were excellent prospects but Eli was considered head-and-shoulders above them. QBs went 1, 4, and 11 that year. They will likely go 1, 3 and 5 this year. I don't think a prospect, say Sam Darnold, can or should try to force his way out of Cleveland to a place like New York at #2 or #3....but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'm starting to get a quesy feeling that this class of QB's is over rated and being over drafted by unusually desperate teams Each guy has a legit serious flaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Larz said: I'm starting to get a quesy feeling that this class of QB's is over rated and being over drafted by unusually desperate teams Each guy has a legit serious flaw There is nothing unusual about the Jets desperation for a QB....we see it every year. But everything else you said, I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: There is nothing unusual about the Jets desperation for a QB....we see it every year. But everything else you said, I agree 100%. The Browns and Jets seem determined to end decades of QB issues this year, no matter what. I am kind of getting the feeling that in 4 years we won't be arguing over which QB worked out, but how teams passed on Barkley and Nelson. Maybe it's my battered Jets fan syndrome, maybe it's because we have been analyzing the crap out of this for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, GreenFish said: Wow. So, Big Ben was almost a Giant. Eli has been good but Big Ben was the better player. how did big ben last so long? i'll bet the team with the third pick is kicking themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Larz said: I'm starting to get a quesy feeling that this class of QB's is over rated and being over drafted by unusually desperate teams Each guy has a legit serious flaw It’ll definitely make for a good look back in 10 years if guys like Darnold flop and Allen makes it. Or Jackson and Rudolph become the best. Or if they all make it or all suck. There will definitely be good stories to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: It’ll definitely make for a good look back in 10 years if guys like Darnold flop and Allen makes it. Or Jackson and Rudolph become the best. Or if they all make it or all suck. There will definitely be good stories to tell. Hey you left out Lauletta. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 That draft yielded us Vilma, Cotchery, and Coleman. Also gave us Adrian Jones. Ward was a good productive RB that the Giants swiped from our PS. That was a good draft overall. I thought CB Derrick Strait (Nagurski AND Thorpe Winner, All-American) was the STEAL in the 3rd round, but he flamed out quick. 2004 was a good draft and Playoff run. Oh, Doug Brien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: It’ll definitely make for a good look back in 10 years if guys like Darnold flop and Allen makes it. Or Jackson and Rudolph become the best. Or if they all make it or all suck. There will definitely be good stories to tell. I gotta be honest Rudolph makes me nervous, lol If he goes to a good franchise where he can sit for a year or two he could be as successful as the guys rushed into playing right away. At the end of the day, it's entertainment, and the first 45 minutes of the draft will be don't blink, don't breathe amazing drama We're due for a break, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Larz said: I'm starting to get a quesy feeling that this class of QB's is over rated and being over drafted by unusually desperate teams Each guy has a legit serious flaw I feel the same way. Teams are so desperate for a qb that they are inflating the “value” of where these prospects deserve to be picked. Hoping I am completely wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: That draft yielded us Vilma, Cotchery, and Coleman. Also gave us Adrian Jones. Ward was a good productive RB that the Giants swiped from our PS. That was a good draft overall. I thought CB Derrick Strait (Nagurski AND Thorpe Winner, All-American) was the STEAL in the 3rd round, but he flamed out quick. 2004 was a good draft and Playoff run. Oh, Doug Brien! Same here. I remember PRAYING that he would fall to us in the 3rd, and I was absolutely giddy when he did. I thought he was going to become the best nickel CB in the league at an absolute minimum. And then he did nothing at all, and fell out of the league within a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 46 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: I feel the same way. Teams are so desperate for a qb that they are inflating the “value” of where these prospects deserve to be picked. Hoping I am completely wrong though The people who are inflating the value of QBs are the same ones on this board who say "I dont care how good jamal adams is/will be, safety isnt a premium position." So which is it exactly? I personally agree that had we gotten cousins, we would be sitting very pretty in this draft. We would have 2 second round picks and likely be able to plug Quentin Nelson into our line, and have a truly elite offensive lineman from day 1. But we missed on cousins, need a QB and now need to roll the dice on Rosen or Mayfield, which is also fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 hours ago, Thai Jet said: Hey you left out Lauletta. lol If Lauletta ends up being great and we don't end up with him (which I can't see how we will end up with him) I'll be seriously PO'd. Everything you read about the guy seems overwhelmingly positive. One of the more recent posts about the QB class (one where I think someone commented "holy Lauletta!") mentioned that Lauletta completely absorbs the playbook. He's also known for his accuracy and great character. And from the videos of him that I've watched, he looks like he's great at play action, throws very well on the run, has a strong arm and looks like a big strong kid. EDIT: even if we somehow end up with Sam Darnold but the Pats end up with Lauletta, it will ruin the draft for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If Lauletta ends up being great and we don't end up with him (which I can't see how we will end up with him) I'll be seriously PO'd. Everything you read about the guy seems overwhelmingly positive. One of the more recent posts about the QB class (one where I think someone commented "holy Lauletta!") mentioned that Lauletta completely absorbs the playbook. He's also known for his accuracy and great character. And from the videos of him that I've watched, he looks like he's great at play action, throws very well on the run, has a strong arm and looks like a big strong kid. The only knock on him is that he doesn't have the strongest arm and for now he can't make all the NFL throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: The only knock on him is that he doesn't have the strongest arm and for now he can't make all the NFL throws. Arm strength is the knock on him?! I don't buy it. I've watched the videos and his arm looks strong (and definitely stronger than Rosen's arm). It has to be something about playing at a small school (weak competition) or something like that. Maybe he doesn't have to do a lot of reads but supposedly he absorbs the playbook (I forget the word that was used but it was a huge compliment to him) so that doesn't sound right to me either. His footwork (that I see on his videos) is also excellent. I just don't understand this one at all. It will be very interesting to see where he gets drafted. I remember Mahomes shot up draft boards. I wonder if Lauletta will as well. And if not us then please not the Pats (nor the Dolphins! Nor the Bills). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Arm strength is the knock on him?! I don't buy it. I've watched the videos and his arm looks strong (and definitely stronger than Rosen's arm). It has to be something about playing at a small school (weak competition) or something like that. Maybe he doesn't have to do a lot of reads but supposedly he absorbs the playbook (I forget the word that was used but it was a huge compliment to him) so that doesn't sound right to me either. His footwork (that I see on his videos) is also excellent. I just don't understand this one at all. It will be very interesting to see where he gets drafted. I remember Mahomes shot up draft boards. I wonder if Lauletta will as well. And if not us then please not the Pats (nor the Dolphins! Nor the Bills). Both the Pats and the Bills are possible since they have multiple choices in some early rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: Both the Pats and the Bills are possible since they have multiple choices in some early rounds. Well better the Bills than the Pats but either one would make me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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