Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 @Paradis is up 13-12 now with 14 minutes left. Dom will need 2 votes here in the 11th hour to take the matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Fouts or Bart Starr. Couldn't. For my QB, I wanted one that I got to watch play with my own eyes. I never got to see either of the two you mentioned. Elway, Marino, Montana, Young, Favre, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Kurt, Big Ben...they were all taken. The only guy I would have considered taking without having seen play was Namath. Also, I wanted a mobile guy who could create on the move. So Rich Gannon and Matt Ryan were out of question for me, and I didn't like McNair for this (those were the only 3 recent MVP winners not taken). No one left was mobile except for Luck and Wilson. I went with Wilson, but it was a coin flip. It's OK. Even if Russ Wilson is the Trent Dilfer of this league, he'd still have a championship ring. I like my team that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Couldn't. For my QB, I wanted one that I got to watch play with my own eyes. I never got to see either of the two you mentioned. Elway, Marino, Montana, Young, Favre, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Kurt, Big Ben...they were all taken. The only guy I would have considered taking without having seen play was Namath. Also, I wanted a mobile guy who could create on the move. So Rich Gannon and Matt Ryan were out of question for me, and I didn't like McNair for this (those were the only 3 recent MVP winners not taken). No one left was mobile except for Luck and Wilson. I went with Wilson, but it was a coin flip. It's OK. Even if Russ Wilson is the Trent Dilfer of this league, he'd still have a championship ring. I like my team that much. If you had to go with a more recent QB, Rivers would have been a stronger choice. Mobility is overrated. And wasn't Gannon fairly mobile too? Nearly 2,500 rushing yards in his career, with 21 rushing TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Our second Final 4 pairing is set: # 7 @Paradis vs. # 14 @King P. The matchup has now been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @Paradis is up 13-12 now with 14 minutes left. Dom will need 2 votes here in the 11th hour to take the matchup. Shouldn't have mentioned popularity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If you had to go with a more recent QB, Rivers would have been a stronger choice. Mobility is overrated. And wasn't Gannon fairly mobile too? Nearly 2,500 rushing yards in his career, with 21 rushing TD's. Rivers was high in consideration too, but I can't discount his many (many) postseason failures. Stafford was as well. So my final list came down to Gannon, Wilson, and Luck. I was initially set on Gannon in the mid-rounds, but ultimately when it came time to choose, I looked at some of the other teams and saw some gnarly front 7s, and wanted a guy who had outstanding mobility and could make plays from outside the pocket. Ultimately, I decided that I personally would have taken Russell over Gannon to start a team if I had to, so I went with him. Again, I'm not saying I'm bound to my pick, or that he's the 24th greatest QB in history, but I like it for the purposes of this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 @HessStation and @Jetlife33 are locked in a 6-6 tie in the early going of that matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @HessStation and @Jetlife33 are locked in a 6-6 tie in the early going of that matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Couldn't. For my QB, I wanted one that I got to watch play with my own eyes. I never got to see either of the two you mentioned. Elway, Marino, Montana, Young, Favre, Rodgers, Peyton, Brees, Kurt, Big Ben...they were all taken. The only guy I would have considered taking without having seen play was Namath. Also, I wanted a mobile guy who could create on the move. So Rich Gannon and Matt Ryan were out of question for me, and I didn't like McNair for this (those were the only 3 recent MVP winners not taken). No one left was mobile except for Luck and Wilson. I went with Wilson, but it was a coin flip. It's OK. Even if Russ Wilson is the Trent Dilfer of this league, he'd still have a championship ring. I like my team that much. You never saw Fouts? Too bad. Air Coryell was a joy to watch. Jefferson/Chandler, Joiner, Winslow Sr., Muncie/Mitchell. I think it is crazy that Charlie Joiner was drafted here and Jefferson and Chandler weren't. IMO Joiner was always the #2 on that team and today we'd be calling him a compiler. Great player but not the greatest on his team. Jefferson was a guy I seriously considered. I went with Roy Green for the db potential and to keep with my theme of overall speed. To be more true to my usual choice I would have taken Isaac Curtis over any and even the guys I picked. 3 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Rivers was high in consideration too, but I can't discount his many (many) postseason failures. Stafford was as well. So my final list came down to Gannon, Wilson, and Luck. I was initially set on Gannon in the mid-rounds, but ultimately when it came time to choose, I looked at some of the other teams and saw some gnarly front 7s, and wanted a guy who had outstanding mobility and could make plays from outside the pocket. Ultimately, I decided that I personally would have taken Russell over Gannon to start a team if I had to, so I went with him. Again, I'm not saying I'm bound to my pick, or that he's the 24th greatest QB in history, but I like it for the purposes of this league. The mobility is reason that I picked Elway. I figured he ticked all the boxes of winning super bowls and laser rocket arm and Jim Brown and most of the guys I'd go for were gone. I am shocked that Fouts didn't go. I thought about waiting until the end and then taking Fouts. Normally I would go with a big armed guy like Bert Jones, Pastorini, even Archie Manning. Sometimes I use Neil Lomax. Give me 1984 Neil Lomax - 28 TD/18INT and 4,600 yards which was 2nd in the league to Mariino's 5,000 and like 4th all-time behind Marino and 2 of Fouts seasons. I never saw Bart Starr either, but screw that chicken armed game manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Shouldn't have mentioned popularity... Can't stop the rush son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Where would yall have gone with that pick? Starr or Fouts or take a QB sooner but obviously that didn’t work for me so who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You never saw Fouts? Too bad. Air Coryell was a joy to watch. Jefferson/Chandler, Joiner, Winslow Sr., Muncie/Mitchell. I think it is crazy that Charlie Joiner was drafted here and Jefferson and Chandler weren't. IMO Joiner was always the #2 on that team and today we'd be calling him a compiler. Great player but not the greatest on his team. Jefferson was a guy I seriously considered. I went with Roy Green for the db potential and to keep with my theme of overall speed. To be more true to my usual choice I would have taken Isaac Curtis over any and even the guys I picked. The mobility is reason that I picked Elway. I figured he ticked all the boxes of winning super bowls and laser rocket arm and Jim Brown and most of the guys I'd go for were gone. I am shocked that Fouts didn't go. I thought about waiting until the end and then taking Fouts. Normally I would go with a big armed guy like Bert Jones, Pastorini, even Archie Manning. Sometimes I use Neil Lomax. Give me 1984 Neil Lomax - 28 TD/18INT and 4,600 yards which was 2nd in the league to Mariino's 5,000 and like 4th all-time behind Marino and 2 of Fouts seasons. I never saw Bart Starr either, but screw that chicken armed game manager. I know all about those SuperChargers and how Bill Walsh and Don Coryell combined to turn the passing game on its head (Walsh is my all time favorite coach and I’ve read a lot about him). I know I would have won over a few votes had I taken Fouts. But I was 1 when Fouts retired. I didn’t get to watch him play, so I didn’t get to determine for myself whether Fouts was the catalyst for the whole thing, or whether he was just surrounded by great offensive talent and had exceptional coaching/playcalling. I don’t just go by numbers or rings (which is why I’d take Elway over Montana or Rodgers over Brady), so for the QB position, I wanted to know I was getting a real talent - regardless of how it would affect the voting. To me, this was the only real, mobile, playmaking talent available. That doesn’t mean he’s the 24th greatest of all time, it just means he’s what I wanted at my QB position: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: Starr or Fouts or take a QB sooner but obviously that didn’t work for me so who knows At 24th overall out of 24 teams, all the QBs that would have made a difference were well past gone. “Sooner” wasn’t an option for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: At 24th overall out of 24 teams, all the QBs that would have made a difference were well past gone. “Sooner” wasn’t an option for me. You easily could of taken a QB with your first pick. Only 7 QBs we’re drafted before you picked but as I said it didn’t help most of us anyway, you made it farther than 3/4 the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 @HessStation advances to the finals with a 12-9 win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 One guy I loved that I never saw mentioned was Christian Okoye. The Nigerian Nightmare was no joke and even these HOF teams we compiled would have dreaded dealing with him. Most remember him getting smacked by Atwater or the NFL films "He's gonna wear your ass out" clips. A brief but monstrous career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Less than 90 minutes in the other Final 4 matchup and it's a 1-vote matchup. Could we end up with a @HessStation - @King P rematch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 King P has an 11-8 lead with 15 minutes left. Round 1 rematch it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 @King P wins it, 12-8. He faces @HessStation in the championship. The championship has been posted, and will last for 72 hours. Please feel free to bump as often as possible over the weekend to get the most possible voters involved for the rematch. Good luck to both competitors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: King P has an 11-8 lead with 15 minutes left. Round 1 rematch it is! The Namath v Brady matchup certainly did not hurt KingP. Think the outcome might have been different on a Pats board? Edit: Nevermind -- KingP had Rodgers, not Namath. Lets see how he does going up against Joe in the Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Lol i said king p vs hess was a final worthy match and i guess it played out that way. Fun fun. Maybe for the finals you guys could have a separate peer vote of people who participated in the draft be a tiebreaker instead of determining it by seed if it somehow ties. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 left you some love in the thread King P - nice win. Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 @HessStation was my # 1 from the start. Just as a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 “First I’d like to thank my friends and family...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 hours ago, HessStation said: “First I’d like to thank my friends and family...” And all the Jet homers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Namath was the probably the worst part of the team. But he’s also iconic which was perfect. Both my CBs were considered Top 10 all time, I also had a Top 10 all time S, ILB, OLB, DT, RT, OC, TE, RB, FB, and 1 if not 2 Top 10 WRs. **hoists the trophy over my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, HessStation said: Namath was the probably the worst part of the team. But he’s also iconic which was perfect. Both my CBs were considered Top 10 all time, I also had a Top 10 all time S, ILB, OLB, DT, RT, OC, TE, RB, FB, and 1 if not 2 Top 10 WRs. **hoists the trophy over my head Namath is the only QB I would have taken that predates my existence- for obvious reasons. Congrats. Hopefully we do this again next offseason. I have some fun wrinkles that we could try if interested @Paradis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, greenwichjetfan said: Namath is the only QB I would have taken that predates my existence- for obvious reasons. Congrats. Hopefully we do this again next offseason. I have some fun wrinkles that we could try if interested @Paradis absolutely Congrats to @HessStation and thanks to all the managers who participated. Was interesting and voters favored teams i didn't expect. Next year we'll have do another with a twist... (no power 5 alums? lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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