Mac has to trade down...

[Philc1]

On 1/28/2019 at 10:59 AM, cant wait said:

the consensus seems to be some combination of bosa/allen/q. williams are the top 3 prospects at least for right now 

So then draft one of them.  Our defense cannot sniff the qb yet somehow most jets fans think adding the first real pass rusher since John Abraham is a bad thing

[Gas2No99]

2019 NFLPA Collegiate Bowl Weigh-In

Tallest:  Daniel Cooney, OT, San Diego (6-8 1/2)

Shortest:  Deonte Harris, WR, Assumption (5-6 1/4)

Heaviest:  Maurice Simba, OG, Concordia (343)

Lightest:  Deonte Harris, WR, Assumption (163)

Longest Arms:  Mike Onuoha, DE, Texas A&M-Commerce (36 1/2)

Shortest Arms:  Deonte Harris, WR, Assumption (28 7/8)

Biggest Hands:  Joe Anderson, OG, Ohio (10 3/4)

Smallest Hands:  E.J. Ejiya, OLB, North Texas & Brandon Watson, CB, Michigan (8 1/4)

Longest Wingspan:  Mike Onuoha, DE, Texas A&M-Commerce (85)

Shortest Wingspan:  Deonte Harris, WR, Assumption (68 1/4)

 

 

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Calvin	Anderson	OT	Texas	6045	293	33 1/8	9 1/2	80 1/2
Joe	Anderson	OG	Ohio	6052	336	33 1/4	10 3/4	79 3/4
George	Aston	FB	Pittsburgh	5114	242	30 7/8	9 1/2	76
John	Battle	S	L.S.U.	6003	202	32	9 1/2	74
Ryan	Bee	DE	Marshall	6063	268	35 1/4	10	80 1/2
Maurice	Simba	OG	Concordia	6071	343	36	9 1/2	84 1/4
Nate	Brooks	CB	North Texas	5117	186	31 1/8	8 1/2	74 1/4
Trevon	Brown	WR	East Carolina	6010	211	31 5/8	9 1/4	75 1/2
Shun	Brown	WR	Arizona	5082	185	29 1/2	8 3/4	70
Keenen	Brown	TE	Texas State	6024	247	35 1/8	9 3/4	81 1/2
Kyron	Brown	CB	Akron	6010	196	32 1/2	9 1/4	77 1/2
Jake	Browning	QB	Washington	6015	206	32 1/2	9	77
Jalin	Burrell	CB	New Mexico	5113	195	31 5/8	9	75
Emmanuel	Butler	WR	Northern Arizona	6030	220	33 1/4	10 1/4	79 3/4
Deion	Calhoun	OG	Mississippi St.	6025	317	32 7/8	9 3/4	77 3/4
Daniel	Cooney	OT	San Diego	6084	314	33 7/8	10	81
Nehari	Crawford	WR	Duquesne	5102	167	30 1/2	9	73 1/4
Austin	Cutting	LS	Air Force	6034	240	31	9 1/2	74 3/4
Kahzin	Daniels	DE	Charleston	6025	232	32 3/4	9	80
Noah	Dawkins	ILB	Citadel	6007	223	32 1/2	9 1/2	76 3/4
Taiwan	Deal	RB	Wisconsin	6001	221	31	9 1/4	73 1/4
Marche’	Dennard	RB	CSU-Pueblo	5093	210	29 3/8	8 3/4	70
Brandon	Dillon	TE	Marian	6034	247	32	9	73
Malik	Dorton	DE	USC	6016	281	33 7/8	9	80
Ashton	Dulin	WR	Malone	6013	209	33 1/2	8 1/2	77
Matthew	Eaton	WR	Iowa St.	6041	218	33	9 3/4	79 1/2
Patrick	Eby	LS	Columbia	6025	223	31 1/4	9	76
Javier	Edwards	DT	Colorado	6014	340	34	9	79 1/2
E.J.	Ejiya	OLB	North Texas	6012	233	31 7/8	8 1/4	75
Nico	Evans	RB	Wyoming	5095	202	29 5/8	9	69
Koa	Farmer	ILB	Penn St.	6005	230	31 3/4	9	75 1/2
Mark	Fields	CB	Clemson	5100	183	31 1/4	9	74 1/4
Brian	Fineanganofo	OG	Idaho St.	6057	302	34	9 1/4	80 1/2
Demetrius	Flannigan-Fowles	S	Arizona	6020	203	32	8 3/4	76 3/4
Alex	Fontana	C	Kansas	6017	301	31 5/8	10	79
Hjalte	Froholdt	OG	Arkansas	6044	306	30 1/2	9 7/8	76 1/2
Rafael	Gaglianone	K	Wisconsin	5104	224	29 1/8	8 3/4	71
Jamell	Garcia Williams	DE	U.A.B.	6072	249	35 1/8	10	80 1/2
Tyler	Gauthier	C	Miami	6040	311	32	10	76 3/4
Kyle	Gibson	S	Central Florida	5113	175	33 1/8	9	75 1/4
Montre	Gregory	S	Bowling Green	6002	191	32 1/8	9 1/4	76
Amir	Hall	QB	Bowie St.	6045	197	33 3/4	9	80 1/4
Kemon	Hall	CB	North Texas	5110	191	30 1/8	9 1/4	72
Deion	Harris	CB	North Dakota	6017	197	31 1/2	9	75
Deonte	Harris	WR	Assumption	5062	163	28 7/8	9	68 1/4
Darius	Harris	OLB	Middle Tennessee St.	6026	222	34 1/8	9 3/4	80 1/2
Willie	Harvey	ILB	Iowa St.	5112	224	30 7/8	10	75
Phil	Haynes	OG	Wake Forest	6036	322	33	9	79 1/2
Kiy	Hester	S	Rutgers	6001	210	31 5/8	10	76 1/2
Wes	Hills	RB	Slippery Rock	6002	213	32 1/2	8 3/4	76 1/2
Charles	Holland	WR	Tiffin	6017	209	33 3/8	10 1/4	76 1/2
A.J.	Hotchkins	ILB	U.T.E.P.	5104	227	32 7/8	9 1/4	79
Vitas	Hrynkiewicz	C	Youngstown St.	6025	309	32	9 1/2	77
Obinna	Iheoma	OLB	Northwestern St.	6007	235	33 1/8	10	80 1/2
Damon	Jeanpierre	WR	Nicholls State	5111	170	31 1/8	9	75 1/4
Devon	Johnson	OT	Ferris St.	6067	334	35 1/2	9 1/2	82
Jon’vea	Johnson	WR	Toledo	5115	192	31 5/8	9	76 3/4
Olabisi	Johnson	WR	Colorado St.	6004	200	31 1/8	10 1/2	72
Marcus	Jones	RB	Gannon	5093	228	30	8 1/2	74
Brandon	Knight	OT	Indiana	6036	311	32 1/4	9 3/4	81
Jordan	Kunaszyk	ILB	California	6027	230	31	9 1/2	75 1/2
Jajuan	Lawson	QB	Rhode Island	6000	213	30	9	73
Josh	Lewis	CB	Eastern Washington	5106	194	31 7/8	9 1/4	77
Joe	Lowery	OT	Ohio	6057	300	32 3/8	9 3/4	77 1/2
David	Lucero	TE	U.T.E.P.	6046	233	32 7/8	9 1/2	78
Isaiah	Mack	DT	Chattanooga	6010	306	32 3/8	9 1/4	77
Lawrence	Marshall	DT	Michigan	6030	279	33 1/4	10	83
Jalen	McClendon	QB	Baylor	6043	215	33 1/8	9 1/2	78
Travon	McMillian	RB	Colorado	5114	198	31 1/2	8 1/2	73 1/4
Jason	Moore	WR	Findlay	6022	213	33 1/8	9 1/4	77 3/4
Flynn	Nagel	WR	Northwestern	5107	192	29 3/8	8 1/2	70
Tyler	Newsome	P	Notre Dame	6026	219	30 7/8	9 1/4	74 1/2
Mike	Onuoha	DE	Texas A&M-Commerce	6053	249	36 1/2	9 1/4	85
Iosua	Opeta	OG	Weber St.	6040	292	32 7/8	9 1/2	77 1/4
D’Andre	Payne	CB	Iowa St.	5090	174	29 7/8	10	72
Brian	Peavy	CB	Iowa St.	5081	193	30 1/8	8 1/2	74
Peyton	Pelluer	ILB	Washington St.	6000	221	30 1/8	9 1/2	73
Justice	Powers	OT	U.A.B.	6016	284	34 1/8	9 1/4	81
Randy	Ramsey	OLB	Arkansas	6032	226	32 1/4	9 1/4	78 1/4
Malik	Reed	OLB	Nevada	6012	237	31 1/4	9 1/2	75 1/2
Anree	Saint-Armour	DE	Georgia Tech	6020	250	32 1/8	9	77 3/4
Trevon	Sanders	DT	Troy	6003	333	32 3/4	9 3/4	78 3/4
John	Santiago	RB	North Dakota	5091	183	31 1/8	9	72
Alexandre	Savard	TE	Laval	6054	251	33 1/8	9 3/4	77
Nicolas	Scott	S	Penn State	5111	199	31 3/4	8 1/2	76 1/4
Sterling	Sheffield	OLB	Maine	6003	231	34 3/8	10	80 1/4
Kyle	Shurmur	QB	Vanderbilt	6040	224	33 1/4	9	78 1/8
Josh	Simmons	S	Limestone	5114	190	32 7/8	9 1/2	76 1/2
Steven	Sims Jr.	WR	Kansas	5090	176	30 1/4	8 1/2	72
Jeffrey	Smith	WR	Boston College	6002	186	31	9	75
Ray	Smith	DT	Boston College	6006	308	31 1/2	10 1/4	76
Sean	Smith	P	Dayton	6033	225	32 3/8	9	76 1/2
Silas	Stewart	ILB	Incarnate Ward	6012	220	32 5/8	9 1/4	78 1/4
Brent	Stockstill	QB	Middle Tennessee St.	5115	207	30 1/8	8 1/2	72 1/2
Trevon	Tate	OT	Memphis	6027	289	33	10	80
Lexington	Thomas	RB	UNLV	5077	172	29 1/8	8 3/4	70 1/2
Jay-Tee	Tiuli	DT	Eastern Washington	6034	340	33 3/8	9 3/4	80 3/4
Nathan	Trewyn	C	Wisconsin-Whitewater	6032	313	32	10 1/2	79
Marquez	Tucker	OG	Southern Utah	6027	297	33	9	79 1/4
Immanuel	Turner	DE	Louisiana Tech	6023	279	33 7/8	10	81 1/2
Shy	Tuttle	DT	Tennessee	6023	290	33 1/2	9 1/2	79 1/2
Xavier	Ubosi	WR	U.A.B.	6026	209	31 7/8	9	78 1/2
Patrick	Vahe	OG	Texas	6022	317	32 7/8	10 1/4	78
Aca’Cedric	Ware	RB	USC	5116	203	31 3/4	9	75 1/2
Brandon	Watson	CB	Michigan	5110	197	31 1/8	8 1/4	73 1/4
Darius	Williams	CB	CSU-Pueblo	5106	197	30 3/4	9	72
Quincy	Williams	OLB	Murray St.	5103	233	32 1/2	9 3/4	78 3/4
Juwann	Winfree	WR	Colorado	6013	209	32 1/2	9 1/2	77
Willie	Wright	OG	Tulsa	6024	293	33 5/8	10	80 1/2
Justin	Yoon	K	Notre Dame	5100	186	30 3/4	9 1/4	71 1/2
Jalen	Young	S	Florida Atlantic	5097	179	30 7/8	8 3/4	71
Dedrick	Young	ILB	Nebraska	6002	225	31	9	76 1/2

 

 

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

I don’t understand everyone’s fascination this year with trading down. Everyone is acting as if Mac has been a genius at drafting quality players. Please someone tell me besides his first rounders who on this team puts fear in an OCs Or DCs dreams at night? And if your being honest of his first rounders there is really only two. Again which one of his second rounders are still on the team or has managed to stay healthy? Having more picks doesn’t guarantee that your gonna pick the right guys or players that can even stay in the league. A few years back Idzik and company had 11 picks, only Quincy Enunwa is still on the team. A totally wasted draft, It set us back 5 years. The NO Saints and Chargers have rebuilt their entire team in the last 4  drafts since 2015, and neither team traded back to accomplish that. Matter of fact the Saints have mostly traded up to select the player the desired most. If the NYv Jets had done that 2016 they could have had Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack in 2017 a draft rich in Offensive line talent Maccagnan traded back passing on  o lineman that would have set the Jets up spectacularly for Sam Darnold. Whom we would not have gotten without “trading up”.  We traded back more than five times that day with all those trades who still remains on this team from all the trading back? More importantly, who was taken or could have been taken? How about WR Cooper Kupp,  C Pat Elflien,G Dan Feeney, RB Donta  Foreman, G Dorian Johnsohn, we could have rebuilt the O line or D line instead of WRs Ardarius Stewart, Dylan Donahue, Jeremy Clark, Chad Hansen, players not even on the team anymore.  My point is SIMPLE, I DONT TRUST MACAGNAN to draft significant, essential, dominant consequential players. So trading down won’t help this team as long as the inept GM and talent evaluators have no real plan for success for this team..    

[UntouchableCrew]

In Dane Brugler's most recent mock he has the Jets trading down with the Broncos:

10. New York Jets – Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
The Jets’ most valuable asset is Sam Darnold and general manager Mike Maccagnan is going to address the offensive line this offseason to better protect him. Taylor needs to improve his play strength, but he is a human shield with outstanding contact balance on the edges.

 

41. New York Jets (from Denver) – N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
By getting back into the second round, the Jets can land a physical pass catcher like Harry, giving Darnold a young, trustworthy target.

[Philc1]

9 hours ago, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

I don’t understand everyone’s fascination this year with trading down. Everyone is acting as if Mac has been a genius at drafting quality players. Please someone tell me besides his first rounders who on this team puts fear in an OCs Or DCs dreams at night? And if your being honest of his first rounders there is really only two. Again which one of his second rounders are still on the team or has managed to stay healthy? Having more picks doesn’t guarantee that your gonna pick the right guys or players that can even stay in the league. A few years back Idzik and company had 11 picks, only Quincy Enunwa is still on the team. A totally wasted draft, It set us back 5 years. The NO Saints and Chargers have rebuilt their entire team in the last 4  drafts since 2015, and neither team traded back to accomplish that. Matter of fact the Saints have mostly traded up to select the player the desired most. If the NYv Jets had done that 2016 they could have had Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack in 2017 a draft rich in Offensive line talent Maccagnan traded back passing on  o lineman that would have set the Jets up spectacularly for Sam Darnold. Whom we would not have gotten without “trading up”.  We traded back more than five times that day with all those trades who still remains on this team from all the trading back? More importantly, who was taken or could have been taken? How about WR Cooper Kupp,  C Pat Elflien,G Dan Feeney, RB Donta  Foreman, G Dorian Johnsohn, we could have rebuilt the O line or D line instead of WRs Ardarius Stewart, Dylan Donahue, Jeremy Clark, Chad Hansen, players not even on the team anymore.  My point is SIMPLE, I DONT TRUST MACAGNAN to draft significant, essential, dominant consequential players. So trading down won’t help this team as long as the inept GM and talent evaluators have no real plan for success for this team..    

It’s because they all want Jonah and he’s rated as a mid first round pick and he needed chip blockers to block Ferrell in the bowl game

[sec101row23]

16 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

In Dane Brugler's most recent mock he has the Jets trading down with the Broncos:

10. New York Jets – Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
The Jets’ most valuable asset is Sam Darnold and general manager Mike Maccagnan is going to address the offensive line this offseason to better protect him. Taylor needs to improve his play strength, but he is a human shield with outstanding contact balance on the edges.

 

41. New York Jets (from Denver) – N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
By getting back into the second round, the Jets can land a physical pass catcher like Harry, giving Darnold a young, trustworthy target.

 

I’d rather go WR-OT in that scenario.   Maybe a Metcalf-Cajuste combo   

 

[PepPep]

On 1/28/2019 at 6:38 PM, Gas2No99 said:

Drew Lock - QB -  Player

According to the Denver Post's Mark Kiszla, the "worst kept secret at the Senior Bowl" was that Broncos GM John Elway is "smitten" with Missouri QB Drew Lock.

The Broncos pick at No. 10 overall, behind the also-quarterback-needy Giants (No. 6) and Jaguars (No. 7). Per the Denver Post's Ryan O'Halloran, Elway "barely left the quarterback group" during his three-day stay in Mobile. Lock is highly thought of from an upside standpoint, but he completed under 57 percent of his college throws and struggled against top competition. Incumbent Broncos starter Case Keenum lost a supporter when the team let Gary Kubiak out the door.

Related: Broncos

 

Source: Denver Post 

Jan 28 - 5:27 PM

Elway sure knows how to pick 'em. lol. 

But yeah, give me the #10 overall pick and Von Miller with his 25mil salary (which I, as the Jets GM am very much happy top pay) and you can have the #3 overall pick and take whoever the F you want. 

[PepPep]

On 2/3/2019 at 5:44 AM, jetsons said:

To trade you Need a partner... it's real easy to say someone will look to trade up until draft day comes & no one does.

Yeah, but teams DO. Teams trade very often but during the draft and before. The Jets are a prime example last year, moving up to #3. 

[PepPep]

9 hours ago, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

I don’t understand everyone’s fascination this year with trading down. Everyone is acting as if Mac has been a genius at drafting quality players. Please someone tell me besides his first rounders who on this team puts fear in an OCs Or DCs dreams at night? And if your being honest of his first rounders there is really only two. Again which one of his second rounders are still on the team or has managed to stay healthy? Having more picks doesn’t guarantee that your gonna pick the right guys or players that can even stay in the league. A few years back Idzik and company had 11 picks, only Quincy Enunwa is still on the team. A totally wasted draft, It set us back 5 years. The NO Saints and Chargers have rebuilt their entire team in the last 4  drafts since 2015, and neither team traded back to accomplish that. Matter of fact the Saints have mostly traded up to select the player the desired most. If the NYv Jets had done that 2016 they could have had Jaylon Smith or Myles Jack in 2017 a draft rich in Offensive line talent Maccagnan traded back passing on  o lineman that would have set the Jets up spectacularly for Sam Darnold. Whom we would not have gotten without “trading up”.  We traded back more than five times that day with all those trades who still remains on this team from all the trading back? More importantly, who was taken or could have been taken? How about WR Cooper Kupp,  C Pat Elflien,G Dan Feeney, RB Donta  Foreman, G Dorian Johnsohn, we could have rebuilt the O line or D line instead of WRs Ardarius Stewart, Dylan Donahue, Jeremy Clark, Chad Hansen, players not even on the team anymore.  My point is SIMPLE, I DONT TRUST MACAGNAN to draft significant, essential, dominant consequential players. So trading down won’t help this team as long as the inept GM and talent evaluators have no real plan for success for this team..    

Fair enough. But what if the Jets trade down and get a player out of the deal? Von Miller, Antonio Brown, P.Peterson, Alshon Jeffery, AJ Green, R.Quinn, etc. 

[Thai Jet]

On 1/23/2019 at 12:41 AM, Beerfish said:

After looking at Jeremiahs top 50 players, this year there is a fair number of OT's in there and a decent number of WR's.  Don't get finicky if a team does not give you the uber premium offer, have things ready to go to trade out unless perhaps if bosa falls to 3.

We need picks in the sweet zone.  mid 1st and a 2nd and other picks later down are going to be far better than who is there for us at #3

I know, i know, Mac can't pick 2nd rounders at all and he also cannot close the deal on short notice.  (His big trade up last year was well ahead of time.)

Couldn't agree more. We can get someone like Jonah Williams at say #7 and pick up some extra draft ammo in the bargain.

[UntouchableCrew]

10 hours ago, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

I don’t understand everyone’s fascination this year with trading down. Everyone is acting as if Mac has been a genius at drafting quality players. 

Acquiring more picks when your GM sucks at drafting is exactly what you want to do. The draft is inherently a crap shoot. If you aren't confident your guy is going to ace a small number of picks you want as many lottery tickets as possible.

[jetsons]

1 hour ago, PepPep said:

Yeah, but teams DO. Teams trade very often but during the draft and before. The Jets are a prime example last year, moving up to #3. 

 There was a Need, & Players that Warranted to be traded up for... this Draft... not so much.

[nyjbuddy]

5 hours ago, PepPep said:

Fair enough. But what if the Jets trade down and get a player out of the deal? Von Miller, Antonio Brown, P.Peterson, Alshon Jeffery, AJ Green, R.Quinn, etc. 

This would probably need to happen before the draft.  The hard thing with trading players on draft day with such high profile impact players is the unknown of how they fit into the locker room.  With the draft they spend months going through player profiles, interviewing the player, interviewing teammates, teachers, coaches, ex-teammates, etc to get a feel for the player.  With some trades, there is enough time to get this information from the staff and sometimes even players.  So unless this deal is set up before a team is on the clock, I am not sure a lot of teams would be willing to accept trades that involve players they don't really know.  Players are really different between their public image and who they are in the locker room.

[Jet_Engine1]

10 hours ago, sec101row23 said:

 

I’d rather go WR-OT in that scenario.   Maybe a Metcalf-Cajuste combo   

 

Why is GaryM BF'ing everything you say?? Lame.

[sec101row23]

6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Why is GaryM BF'ing everything you say?? Lame.

Lol...I neg repped a post of his and he got all bent out of shape.  

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, sec101row23 said:

Lol...I neg repped a post of his and he got all bent out of shape.  

I was gonna say, you got the infamous Gary-BF!... i get those randomly. What a spiteful c*nt lol... i don't even know who he is

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

15 hours ago, Philc1 said:

It’s because they all want Jonah and he’s rated as a mid first round pick and he needed chip blockers to block Ferrell in the bowl game

I understand everyone’s desire to protect Darnold but if that means taking a decent tackle prospect that will be playing right tackle at the next level (J. Williams), Instead of taking a sure fire dominant pass rusher or possible next Aaron Donald, I’ll take pass rushers/Donald. First of all  we have a good RT in Shell and second, Your still asking me to trust the capability of Maccagnan to draft essential players with the additional picks we acquire.  We should have taken our Centers and guard 2 drafts ago but Mac didn’t and he’s still here. Chris Johnson is taking a huge gamble that this clown can get this right. If Mac is smart they take BPA at #3 hopefully QW, NB, or JA and use the two third rounders to trade up for a Center or G none of these  offensive tackles are worth taking first round  after Gregg Little and Jonah Williams. I’d rather take Little because he will be a LT at the next level. After Dalton Risner, I’m not sure there is another tackle that won’t need significant coaching up before they are ready to contribute to the team. 

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

16 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

In Dane Brugler's most recent mock he has the Jets trading down with the Broncos:

10. New York Jets – Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
The Jets’ most valuable asset is Sam Darnold and general manager Mike Maccagnan is going to address the offensive line this offseason to better protect him. Taylor needs to improve his play strength, but he is a human shield with outstanding contact balance on the edges.

 

41. New York Jets (from Denver) – N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
By getting back into the second round, the Jets can land a physical pass catcher like Harry, giving Darnold a young, trustworthy target.

Has anyone seen this kids tape? I’m not impressed I see a potential OG but he’s no LT prospect. At best he might be a decent RT after a few years of development, at worst he will be a bust like Erik Flowers. I see more Flower traits than anything else. I’d rather take Dalton Risner or the Center from Mississippi state Elgton Jenkins. That C is a stud!

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

16 hours ago, PepPep said:

Fair enough. But what if the Jets trade down and get a player out of the deal? Von Miller, Antonio Brown, P.Peterson, Alshon Jeffery, AJ Green, R.Quinn, etc. 

Wow, honestly that would get me listening as a GM, but it would have to be  Von Miller, Jeffrey or Green. AB is a locker room cancer, Peterson and Quinn are  too old, and that would still have to entail this years rounds 1 and 2 and next years round 2 and 3 and a third rounder in 2021. I’m gonna break the bank if you want this years #3 and your moving up from 10!  If I were GM, I’m gonna talk Johnsohn into taking a chance on Kareem Hunt. We need weapons on offense and everyone makes mistakes, then  With pick 10 I’m taking Gregg Little if he’s available, I’m sure J. Williams will be gone by then but I like Little better. Juwaan Taylor has bust written all over him. I’m sure he will move and test better than Taylor at the combine. If he isn’t available, I’m taking Elgton Jenkins Center from Mississippi state. With my second pick I’m still going O line with another interior lineman or Dalton Risner if he’s available. My philosophy is simple spend high draft capital either fixing the O line or the D line not both.  Spend round 4 -7 on depth and developmental players on the other side of the ball unless of course you have a player really high on your board no one has grabbed.   

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

16 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Acquiring more picks when your GM sucks at drafting is exactly what you want to do. The draft is inherently a crap shoot. If you aren't confident your guy is going to ace a small number of picks you want as many lottery tickets as possible.

Hmm, well I’m going to have to agree to disagree with you on this one. Having more picks and a GM that can’t find his a$$hole with a a depends pamper and a flashlight is a recipe for the mediocrity we find our team in now. You must have forgotten a guy named Idzik and his 11 picks. Enunwa is the only one out of those still left. Having a competent and capable  staff that pay attention to the smallest details when evaluating a player can really help.  Why is it that some teams always seem to find gems in later rounds and others like Detroit, Jets, Miami, Buffalo never get it right? I’d rather move up and grab a player I really want then trade back hoping beyond hope that you get “ lucky” and come across a player. If your gonna play the New England Patriots game, you better have a super talented coaching staff that is more than capable of developing the players into pros that work well in your system. We don’t keep coaches long enough to build a true “NY JETS” culture or have a system. Why do the Steelers always find LBers and WRs that are superstars even tho no one had ever suspected they were superstars in the making? One word guess, COACHING!  Adam Gase and Gregg Williams need a large say in personnel decisions in order for that to happen and if stories are to be believed he never really worked with Bowles to bring in or draft players Bowles wanted. To be winners at what you want, the Jets May have to change ownership. 

[UntouchableCrew]

6 hours ago, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

Has anyone seen this kids tape? I’m not impressed I see a potential OG but he’s no LT prospect. At best he might be a decent RT after a few years of development, at worst he will be a bust like Erik Flowers. I see more Flower traits than anything else. I’d rather take Dalton Risner or the Center from Mississippi state Elgton Jenkins. That C is a stud!

I haven't watched any of his tape but I've read he projects as a RT as well.

[UntouchableCrew]

5 hours ago, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

Hmm, well I’m going to have to agree to disagree with you on this one. Having more picks and a GM that can’t find his a$$hole with a a depends pamper and a flashlight is a recipe for the mediocrity we find our team in now. You must have forgotten a guy named Idzik and his 11 picks. Enunwa is the only one out of those still left. Having a competent and capable  staff that pay attention to the smallest details when evaluating a player can really help.  Why is it that some teams always seem to find gems in later rounds and others like Detroit, Jets, Miami, Buffalo never get it right? I’d rather move up and grab a player I really want then trade back hoping beyond hope that you get “ lucky” and come across a player. If your gonna play the New England Patriots game, you better have a super talented coaching staff that is more than capable of developing the players into pros that work well in your system. We don’t keep coaches long enough to build a true “NY JETS” culture or have a system. Why do the Steelers always find LBers and WRs that are superstars even tho no one had ever suspected they were superstars in the making? One word guess, COACHING!  Adam Gase and Gregg Williams need a large say in personnel decisions in order for that to happen and if stories are to be believed he never really worked with Bowles to bring in or draft players Bowles wanted. To be winners at what you want, the Jets May have to change ownership. 

I mean citing Izdik and saying "we have no hope of drafting players" is kind of defeatist, right? We all wanted Big Mac gone but he's here and I think we have enough holes that in a deep first 50 picks in want a 2nd rounder.

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

20 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I haven't watched any of his tape but I've read he projects as a RT as well.

He’s going to need a lot of work. We already have She’ll who played well before his injury last year. Unless he isn’t healing and rehabbing well I’m not drafting a RT prospect that can’t play multiple positions 

[Super69JetsMetsKnicks]

20 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I mean citing Izdik and saying "we have no hope of drafting players" is kind of defeatist, right? We all wanted Big Mac gone but he's here and I think we have enough holes that in a deep first 50 picks in want a 2nd rounder.

Well I respect how you feel and I’d love a 2 Nd rounder also but I don’t want mediocre players, we don’t have any Studs on this team that any team fears. Who on offense or defense do you have to game plan for? I’d rather take a stud at three, trade both third round picks and move back into 2nd round for a OT Gregg Little or C Elgton Jenkins, or WR Debo Samuels. or CB from Penn State. We can’t be afraid to move up, like we said growing up “scared money don’t make money”. That’s how Mac has been drafting players.    

[Philc1]

On 2/5/2019 at 10:31 AM, PepPep said:

Fair enough. But what if the Jets trade down and get a player out of the deal? Von Miller, Antonio Brown, P.Peterson, Alshon Jeffery, AJ Green, R.Quinn, etc. 

If the Steelers want to give us their first plus Brown absolutely go for it

[Philc1]

On 2/6/2019 at 2:31 AM, Super69JetsMetsKnicks said:

Has anyone seen this kids tape? I’m not impressed I see a potential OG but he’s no LT prospect. At best he might be a decent RT after a few years of development, at worst he will be a bust like Erik Flowers. I see more Flower traits than anything else. I’d rather take Dalton Risner or the Center from Mississippi state Elgton Jenkins. That C is a stud!

Jonah has excellent hands reset technique. Footwork is fine he’s not Flowers but he’s not Brick either.  He’s going to be a left tackle just not elite

[JetHammer]

21 hours ago, Philc1 said:

Jonah has excellent hands reset technique. Footwork is fine he’s not Flowers but he’s not Brick either.  He’s going to be a left tackle just not elite

Saw some people say he could be pro bowler at guard....anyone think we should, hopefully trade back and take him as a guard. Could have  the q Nelson effect. I also think jets should look at interior as priority rather than lt. Lt is a need but not immediate like lg and c. 

[Philc1]

On 2/8/2019 at 6:51 AM, JetHammer said:

Saw some people say he could be pro bowler at guard....anyone think we should, hopefully trade back and take him as a guard. Could have  the q Nelson effect. I also think jets should look at interior as priority rather than lt. Lt is a need but not immediate like lg and c. 

I think Jonah will be a good to very good LT

[TxJetfan]

I think we'll have a clearer picture of what potential moves we will be able to make after the combine is over, and after the pro days are over. For some reason, teams have changed their priorities after attending the combine and pro days. Then, we can see if there are any teams that are willing to make a deal with us for our #3 that makes sense. 

[kelly]

Two teams are set to dominate the 2019 NFL Draft: Patriots and…the Raiders ?      https://www.yahoo.com/sports/two-teams-set-dominate-2019-142520185.html?.tsrc=fauxdal 

[Philc1]

9 hours ago, kelly said:

Two teams are set to dominate the 2019 NFL Draft: Patriots and…the Raiders ?      https://www.yahoo.com/sports/two-teams-set-dominate-2019-142520185.html?.tsrc=fauxdal 

What happens when you have like 6 first round picks in 2 years