JAFJET Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Somewhere Mr.Coffee is watching and drooling over this Herbert kid and thinking If only the Jets gave me one more draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Andrew Thomas time! Not playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, RobR said: Not playing. Really? Well damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, JTJet said: He did not. 29-12 as a starter. Big kid. Good kid. Mobile. 10,000 Yards 95 TDs 22 INTs He literally played the exact opposite of crap in his career, including this year. His team has had a lot of success but I still stand by what I've seen from him this year. Big guy, big arm, but he was a dink and dunker when I watched him and could never get off of his first read. Hopefully Miami drafts him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said: Really? Well damn A bunch of their stars are sitting out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, Sarge4Tide said: Really? Well damn We are missing about a dozen guys today -- between injuries, guys sitting out & academics. Going to be a chance for some of the young guys to step up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, RobR said: His team has had a lot of success but I still stand by what I've seen from him this year. Big guy, big arm, but he was a dink and dunker when I watched him and could never get off of his first read. Hopefully Miami drafts him. Agree to disagree. You dont throw for 10,000 career yards dink and dunking in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, JTJet said: Agree to disagree. You dont throw for 10,000 career yards dink and dunking in college. Luke Falk did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 To any Herbert bashers... from a Ducks fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, RobR said: He's not that bad, almost no one is. Oh I know that but the things people are bringing up as a reason he should be a good prospect are the same people said about hack. "He's big and he has a big arm!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Doesn't look like we are going to score a whole lot of points tonight. Kind of like the entire season, but tonight could be even worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, pdxgreen said: To any Herbert bashers... from a lifetime Ducks fan. Would you pick him top 10? He ran well today, he was nothing special other than that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 How much money do these teams get paid for their bowl games? Pretty soon these things are really going to lose their luster (and tv fan base) because of players skipping them and coaches for that matter as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Serious question. If you're so jaded you want to see a team lose because other people have said their HC is good, why do you watch sports? Is it to watch people fail? Or do you enjoy telling people they're wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Would you pick him top 10? He ran well today, he was nothing special other than that at all. I saw a few quotes earlier this year saying that Herbert is a “different kind of guy” off the field, implying he might not exactly be an alpha leader type. Sounds like the interview process could push him down some draft boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Would you pick him top 10? He ran well today, he was nothing special other than that at all. I think he goes to a team like the Chargers, or maybe someone takes a chance around 13 to 16. But I don't really know what his ceiling is. Having so many different OCs totally screwed his college potential. Whoever gets him will have to relearn Herbert on some things. He was really good last year but didn't have any decent receivers. Then they took away a lot of his playbook and he's never been the same. All the tools are there and hes extremely smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beerfish said: How much money do these teams get paid for their bowl games? Pretty soon these things are really going to lose their luster (and tv fan base) because of players skipping them and coaches for that matter as well. They have already lost their luster. Stands appear to be pretty empty for this one. Aside from the playoffs, these games have become exhibitions. I would like to see the Dawgs win, but when your goals for the season are SEC Championship and playoff berth, a Sugar Bowl win just doesn't mean all that much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I saw a few quotes earlier this year saying that Herbert is a “different kind of guy” off the field, implying he might not exactly be an alpha leader type. Sounds like the interview process could push him down some draft boards. I hope they were referring to how intelligent he is. I'd be shocked if someone who has accomplished all he has at Oregon doesn't have leadership qualities. The kid won the Academic Heisman. Has above a 4.0 grade through 4 years of school and plans on becoming a surgeon. He's going to get drafted pretty high in the 1st round, regardless of what we think, make millions, then go into medicine. That's a "different kind of guy" alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Hahaha I thought that dude was gonna eat the QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lith said: They have already lost their luster. Stands appear to be pretty empty for this one. Aside from the playoffs, these games have become exhibitions. I would like to see the Dawgs win, but when your goals for the season are SEC Championship and playoff berth, a Sugar Bowl win just doesn't mean all that much. Once they instituted the playoffs, those games became the only ones that matter. Unless they expand from 4 teams, these games are just going to become more and more irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Once they started the playoffs, those games became the only ones that matter. Unless they expand from 4 teams, these games are just going to become more and more irrelevant. I especially don't like that the playoffs started before so many of these games. Today is completely anticlimactic after watching the playoffs on Saturday. At least play the semi-finals on New Years so it is still a huge day in College Football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: I hope they were referring to how intelligent he is. I'd be shocked if someone who has accomplished all he has at Oregon doesn't have leadership qualities. The kid won the Academic Heisman. Has above a 4.0 grade through 4 years of school and plans on becoming a surgeon. He's going to get drafted pretty high in the 1st round, regardless of what we think, make millions, then go into medicine. That's a "different kind of guy" alright. It’s counterintuitive, but (as @bitonti always pointed out) scouts get squeamish around players who are too “smart” and have interests outside of football. They want dudes who have to play or die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lith said: I especially don't like that the playoffs started before so many of these games. Today is completely anticlimactic after watching the playoffs on Saturday. At least play the semi-finals on New Years so it is still a huge day in College Football. Funny you say that. I had the same conversation with my nephew on Christmas Eve. He kept insisting they would be played today, and he was shocked when I showed him they weren't. The only reason why I think they don't is to at least give the Bowls not involved that year in the playoffs a "feel" of being important by playing today. Plus the NCAA created another marquee TV money event by playing the Saturday before Jan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Would you pick him top 10? He ran well today, he was nothing special other than that at all. I could copy and paste that comment on what people were saying about Lamar Jackson pre draft lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Ol Matty Rhules shine starting to fade a bit in this game. If Gase were coaching this game, we would have 71 posts demanding him to be fired by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It’s counterintuitive, but (as @bitonti always pointed out) scouts get squeamish around players who are too “smart” and have interests outside of football. They want dudes who have to play or die. I've heard that too. I could see it with LBs, DLs and such, but certain positions, especially QB, I'd want a guy with a good head on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: I've heard that too. I could see it with LBs, DLs and such, but certain positions, especially QB, I'd want a guy with a good head on his shoulders. But would you want a QB who’s worried that a second concussion will jeopardize his career as a surgeon and pull a Chris Borland on you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Serious question. If you're so jaded you want to see a team lose because other people have said their HC is good, why do you watch sports? Is it to watch people fail? Or do you enjoy telling people they're wrong? As with anyone and everyone on this board... its enjoying telling people they are wrong. We all do it in fun. It's an internet message board. That's what it's for. If you need, I can take the reigns for your high horse while you watch the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Huge talent gap in this game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Wow they missed that one lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Huge talent gap in this game. Gigantic. However, that was definitely a missed call on defensive PI that would have made it 13-7. Great throw, receiver would have been hit in stride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: But would you want a QB who’s worried that a second concussion will jeopardize his career as a surgeon and pull a Chris Borland on you? That's a good point. This conversation made me think of when Rosen came out two yers ago, and people wondered how much "he loved the game" because he came from a wealthy family. This isn't only a NFL or "pro level" thing either. Years ago I played baseball for a school in the Northeast. We'd train and play down in Florida for the first month or so of our season. We had tutors who traveled with us to help with our school work. Forget the fact that at best, the coaches treated them like a necessary evil, they would give eye rolls when they saw a player bring a book on the team bus. It was a D-1 school, but it wasn't like we were loaded with MLB level prospects. The smart ones knew that, took the hazing and got our degrees on time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: especially QB, I'd want a guy with a good head on his shoulders. .... ? Isn’t Baker your guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: Would you pick him top 10? He ran well today, he was nothing special other than that at all. I wouldn’t take him in the first unless I was a team like the Saints who could sit him for a year or two and see what he’s about. He’s to inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Baylor and Oklahoma are both doing wonders for their conference's reputation this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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