Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 @Jetsfan80 @Spoot-Face @Verbal So here's the thing. I obviously prefer a Verbal lynch today. CTM seems convinced he's getting lynched and doesn't want to put in the effort to defend since he's busy and it's not worth it to him. Which is fair enough I'd be like FU guys too you know, although it doesn't earn him any townie points that's for sure. If we were to lynch CTM today and he flipped town the next day is going to be very intense. First of all because a townie CTM makes 80 look bad again and what little trust he's earned would be gone again in my view. Secondly I'm not really super townie on Spoot. I mean he's in the town category by POE but his town level in my eyes is like 35-40% so I'm not even really 50/50 on him. And then what if someone claims cop? Can we believe it at this point? Has everyone even claimed because I haven't kept track at all. Would Leelou just give us a vanilla game with 1 doc? Maybe. I don't know. Here's a thought. Would it be worth it to give up our mislynch and give scum a free kill by no lynching? We loose the wiggle room we have (didn't really earn it tbh) but we gain further clarity by someone being removed from the suspect pool. I'd like the three of you to weigh in on this if you don't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nolder said: First of all because a townie CTM makes 80 look bad again and what little trust he's earned would be gone again in my view. lol what? You've been getting sh*t wrong all game, but I would get flack for getting this one wrong? If we lynch CTM and its wrong, Verbal becomes the top candidate for me tomorrow. It's pretty simple. Obviously if scum left me alive I'd be a candidate, because any of the final 3 would have to be candidates by then. But this idea that potentially whiffing on CTM would be damning is just plain silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nolder said: Here's a thought. Would it be worth it to give up our mislynch and give scum a free kill by no lynching? No. Because we don't gain an extra mislynch/day with that strategy. Unless of course we no lynched 2 days in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nolder said: Would Leelou just give us a vanilla game with 1 doc? Maybe. I don't know. I don't think there's a cop. If there was, I think he would have been outed or killed by now. It would also further establish that we're likely only dealing with a 2-scum team. 22.2 % ratio of scum:town, where town only has a Doc and a bunch of VT's, makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol what? You've been getting sh*t wrong all game, What did I get wrong? Name one thing. 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: but I would get flack for getting this one wrong? I didn't say you would get flak. I don't know how the others feel. I know that if CTM flipped town I would become more suspicious of you again and feel like maybe my initial instincts were right after all and that you've just been playing a good second half. I would have a lot of doubt is what I'm saying. 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If we lynch CTM and its wrong, Verbal becomes the top candidate for me tomorrow. It's pretty simple. Ok. I was talking about me. The only thing I really wanted from you was how you felt about a no lynch. 23 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Obviously if scum left me alive I'd be a candidate, because any of the final 3 would have to be candidates by then. But this idea that potentially whiffing on CTM would be damning is just plain silly. Not from my point of view. I would basically go back to square one with this game. Maybe others have a clearer picture of who's scum and it wouldn't effect them. That's fine. Again, I was just talking about me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: No. Because we don't gain an extra mislynch/day with that strategy. Unless of course we no lynched 2 days in a row. I don't understand. The point would be to thin the suspect pool not gain a mislynch. Also I guess no lynching twice is an option (if scum is willing to take it, they might not be) but I was just talking about going into a final 4 endgame not a 3 way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I don't think there's a cop. If there was, I think he would have been outed or killed by now. It would also further establish that we're likely only dealing with a 2-scum team. 22.2 % ratio of scum:town, where town only has a Doc and a bunch of VT's, makes sense to me. Do you think we should massclaim and get the possibility out of the way? I think we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nolder said: Do you think we should massclaim and get the possibility out of the way? I think we should. I'm fine with that, even if it can't accomplish much. As mentioned previously, I'm VT. CTM claimed VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Nolder said: I don't understand. The point would be to thin the suspect pool not gain a mislynch. Also I guess no lynching twice is an option (if scum is willing to take it, they might not be) but I was just talking about going into a final 4 endgame not a 3 way. Creating a scenario where we need 3/4 votes to lynch sounds good in theory. But given we've had 2 randoms so far, that would be dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'm fine with that, even if it can't accomplish much. As mentioned previously, I'm VT. CTM claimed VT. I'm VT as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nolder said: Not from my point of view. I would basically go back to square one with this game. Maybe others have a clearer picture of who's scum and it wouldn't effect them. That's fine. Again, I was just talking about me. Of course we'd go back to square one. But the same is true if we lynch Verbal (who as stated is my # 2) and get it wrong. I didn't get why lynching CTM specifically and getting it wrong would be a problem, other than the fact that we wouldn't have been on the same page about who to lynch today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, Nolder said: Secondly I'm not really super townie on Spoot. I mean he's in the town category by POE but his town level in my eyes is like 35-40% so I'm not even really 50/50 on him. My additional thought on Spoot, beyond what I got from my re-read: I think scum might have kept both you and Spoot alive to this point because of the WIFOM from D1. They might not have a choice tonight. You would make the most sense from a NK standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Nolder said: @Jetsfan80 @Spoot-Face @Verbal So here's the thing. I obviously prefer a Verbal lynch today. CTM seems convinced he's getting lynched and doesn't want to put in the effort to defend since he's busy and it's not worth it to him. Which is fair enough I'd be like FU guys too you know, although it doesn't earn him any townie points that's for sure. If we were to lynch CTM today and he flipped town the next day is going to be very intense. First of all because a townie CTM makes 80 look bad again and what little trust he's earned would be gone again in my view. Secondly I'm not really super townie on Spoot. I mean he's in the town category by POE but his town level in my eyes is like 35-40% so I'm not even really 50/50 on him. And then what if someone claims cop? Can we believe it at this point? Has everyone even claimed because I haven't kept track at all. Would Leelou just give us a vanilla game with 1 doc? Maybe. I don't know. Here's a thought. Would it be worth it to give up our mislynch and give scum a free kill by no lynching? We loose the wiggle room we have (didn't really earn it tbh) but we gain further clarity by someone being removed from the suspect pool. I'd like the three of you to weigh in on this if you don't mind. I'm struggling with whether CTM's attitude is AtE or not. He and Stark don't interact all game, put each other neutral (when they even bother to read one another), and it just feels wrong. That said, I've been colossally wrong this game already, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I'm VT - if I need to be the lynch today, I'm fine with that. Townie CTM is better than townie Verbal, it's just that I'm not really sure he's town based on what I've already shown. I don't think we're uncovering any new info at this point, so I'll go with the flow here. Kill me or kill CTM, that's the only way we'll get a majority. Re: no lynch, I usually hate it, and still do. It buys us another day or literally the same as today. No way scum NK the major suspects, so it won't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Nolder said: What did I get wrong? Name one thing. Just chiming in here, but you're wrong on me being scum. Granted I can't show you that without my coroner report, but still.....you'll see, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Actually, I'm surprised you're not using meta on me to see I'm town. @Nynaeve would be all over this thread defending me (while calling me an idiot for defending Stark, of course). I feel like I've been pretty on with my town meta and not my scum meta this game, but that's all BS anyway so no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, Verbal said: I'm struggling with whether CTM's attitude is AtE or not. That's what I'm banking on, but it would admittedly be a pretty weak move out of CTM. If he's scum it would have been better if he just stayed silent until he could post more rather than go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 ATE ? WTF is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: ATE ? WTF is that? Some dm mumbo jumbo not a buffet. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Crusher said: ATE ? WTF is that? Surprised you aren't familiar with this yet... lol He "ATE" everything except the last piece of the KFC bucket. verb simple past tense of eat. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Crusher said: ATE ? WTF is that? Appeal to emotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nolder said: Appeal to emotion. Sorry I asked 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 21 hours ago, GATA said: Vote Count CTM (1)- 80 Updated VC LOL ^^^^ 17 hours ago, Leelou said: *crickets* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, Stark said: Surprised you aren't familiar with this yet... lol He "ATE" everything except the last piece of the KFC bucket. verb simple past tense of eat. Dude, don't put the words ATE and VERB near each other like that with Crusher around! I have a family! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Verbal said: Dude, don't put the words ATE and VERB near each other like that with Crusher around! I have a family! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Sorry I asked See? You're a pro already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, GATA said: Updated VC LOL ^^^^ What the actual **** am I looking at??! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, Nolder said: What the actual **** am I looking at??! @CTM dancing with his girlfriend Ripped on Molly in front of him? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: No. Because we don't gain an extra mislynch/day with that strategy. Unless of course we no lynched 2 days in a row. ^This. I'm not in favor of no lynch. We're cutting it close. We need to lynch scum. 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: I don't think there's a cop. If there was, I think he would have been outed or killed by now. It would also further establish that we're likely only dealing with a 2-scum team. 22.2 % ratio of scum:town, where town only has a Doc and a bunch of VT's, makes sense to me. I don't think there's a cop either. If so, it's the worst cop I've ever seen. I mean, if there's anytime we could use some investigation reports it's now. 4 hours ago, Nolder said: Do you think we should massclaim and get the possibility out of the way? I think we should. I'm VT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 1:03 PM, CTM said: realistically I'm not going to be able to give this game proper attention till tomorrow afternoon. OK, its tomorrow afternoon now. What you got? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Spoot-Face said: I'm VT. So we've got 5 VTs, as expected. Compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Upside of lynching CTM today: 1) We hit the final scum OR 2) We have a far more active, fun endgame. AND 3) We remove the smelly hippie who apparently makes too much money to justify not bathing and also ruins everything. Win-win-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The thing about CTM is, I don't think he makes up excuses to dodge the game as either alignment, so I think he's legitimately busy. The longer we sit here, the more I think -- gun to my head -- CTM isn't scum. I'd like to give him until tonight to present a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Spoot-Face said: The thing about CTM is, I don't think he makes up excuses to dodge the game as either alignment, so I think he's legitimately busy. The longer we sit here, the more I think -- gun to my head -- CTM isn't scum. I'd like to give him until tonight to present a case. What's your explanation for how he and Stark never really read each other while posting lists of reading the entire roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: The thing about CTM is, I don't think he makes up excuses to dodge the game as either alignment, so I think he's legitimately busy. The longer we sit here, the more I think -- gun to my head -- CTM isn't scum. I'd like to give him until tonight to present a case. Who are your top 2 at this moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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