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Design an offense around the players and QB not the other way around; game plan defense against the opposing team - this is just crazy talk. Instead of the calling it SF east, we should call it the anti-Bowles, anti-Gase game plan.


Gase didn’t have a game plan he basically was just trying things during the game to see what worked.



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Robert Saleh’s coaching staff bringing Kyle Shanahan playbook to Jets

By Brian Costello

September 4, 2021 10:26pm 

 

The Jets could be called 49ers East this year.

New head coach Robert Saleh spent four seasons as San Francisco’s defensive coordinator under Kyle Shanahan, and he has brought plenty of things from the Bay Area with him to Florham Park. Nine of his assistant coaches were with San Francisco in the past few years.

That is why it is fair to look at how the 49ers do things and expect the Jets to be run in a similar fashion. We know that offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur is bringing the Shanahan offense with him to the Jets. We know that the defense that Saleh used to make the 49ers one of the best in the NFL is now being taught at One Jets Drive.

Digging a little deeper, The Post was given copies of two pages of what you might call the Shanahan Bible, which details his offensive and defensive philosophies. The book is distributed to staff members and goes over various details of his program, but these two pages zero in on philosophy.

Though we don’t know if Saleh is taking these word-for-word to the Jets, it is safe to assume his philosophy has been heavily influenced by these pages and there is something similar being preached to the Jets.

Here’s a look, with some analysis (everything in quotes is from the pages, including the words in all caps):

Offense

1. Maximize the strengths of our personnel, starting with the quarterback

The Shanahan offense is being used all over the NFL. But each version is a little bit different, and this is probably why. The Packers, under LaFleur’s older brother Matt, are able to do things with Aaron Rodgers that Arthur Smith can’t do in Atlanta with Matt Ryan.

“The offense must not only fit the personnel,” the entry reads, “it must also be specifically tailored to MAXIMIZE THE STRENGTHS of our players.”

It will be interesting to see how LaFleur does this with rookie quarterback Zach Wilson, who is good on the move. Will the Jets incorporate more rollouts? Will they try to get him out of the pocket?

2. Develop offensive identity and core techniques

This is about repetition and allowing players to react instead of think, something Saleh speaks about often.

“Our base offense (outsize zone, inside zone, play action pass, keepers, screens, dropback concepts) has to be developed in OTAs and drilled over and over throughout training camp. These set of plays and techniques will be used throughout the year in various game plans based off of the scheme we are going against the players we have available. … TECHNIQUES MUST BE DRILLED over and over to allow players to REACT instead of think, which will MAXIMIZE THEIR CONFIDENCE.”

3. Gameplanning to attack the weakness of the defense of our weekly opponent (Schematic/Personnel)

Most coaches talk about being game-plan specific. Shanahan emphasizes tailoring the plan not only to attacking the opponents’ weaknesses, but also to being cognizant of his own players’ strengths and limitations “in order to PUT THEM IN A POSITION TO SUCCEED every time they take the field.”

4. Maintain a balanced offense

This is the core of the Shanahan offense. Make the defense defend the run and the pass by being effective at both and making them both look similar.

“We will maintain a 50-50 BALANCE between run and pass on 1st and 2nd down. To succeed in the NFL, you must force the defense to defend the run and pass. … The goal is to force a defense to have to commit to stopping one of these phases, consequently rendering them vulnerable in the other phase.”

Defense

1. Gap sound defense that stops the run

As much as the NFL has become a passing league, it still comes back to stopping the run on defense. The Jets are counting on Quinnen Williams and Sheldon Rankins being stout up the middle.

“Stopping the run makes the offense PREDICTABLE and EASY TO EXPLOIT. We will play SOUND and DISCIPLINED gap defense to prevent long runs. This will SET UP MORE LONG 3RD DOWNS forcing offenses to take more risks, resulting in MORE QB HITS AND TURNOVERS.”

2. Personnel that is built through the defensive line/pass rush

Saleh is not a blitzer. The philosophy here is to get to the quarterback with your defensive line. We saw the Jets hand out their biggest free-agent contract to edge rusher Carl Lawson for a reason. The Jets lost Lawson to injury and now must find others to get to the quarterback.

“Pressuring the quarterback is the name of the game. The fewer players needed to gain pressure, the better your defense will be. We will design our defensive personnel so that we can GET TO THE QUARTERBACK WITH JUST 4 PLAYERS. Defenses that can pressure the quarterback while dropping 7 players into coverage are the best defenses.”

3. Sound, aggressive coverage

The Jets have very young cornerbacks. You can bet this entry has been drilled in their heads. Be aggressive, but not too aggressive.

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“An aggressive defense CREATES TURNOVERS, but it can also make mistakes if not consistently SOUND. Sound, aggressive coverage will MAKE THE OFFENSE WORK FOR EVERYTHING.”

4. Lead in lowest points allowed, not yards allowed

We often focus on total yards allowed when evaluating defenses. That is not how this staff measures success.

“Our defensive goal is to lead the league in LOWEST POINTS ALLOWED, not yards allowed. Even when the opposing offense is on our goal line, we have the opportunity to STOP THEM. This will be our mentality throughout each game, and throughout the year.”

5. We want players that are violent tacklers who can run

The Jets drafted college safeties Jamien Sherwood and Hamsah Nasirildeen, and are turning them into linebackers. One thing that has been mentioned about both players is their tackling ability. Saleh likes to use the word “violent” when describing tacklers.

“A defensive player is nothing if not a sound tackler. Tackling is not a weakness that our coaching staff will tolerate. It must only be a strength. We will target FAST players who are sound tacklers and who SWARM TO THE FOOTBALL on every play. A team defense is a scary defense. WE will only have players who play with intensity so that we can play the kind of TEAM DEFENSE that will INTIMIDATE OUR OPPONENTS.”

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15 minutes ago, tfine said:

Good read. My only issue is that this defense sounds a lot like the Defense we had under Herm Edwards which I’m not a fan of. Offense sounds like it’s going to be legit.


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In secondary scheme, it is to a degree. I think the big difference is the emphasis this defense puts on pressure up front, in contrast to Herm's.

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In secondary scheme, it is to a degree. I think the big difference is the emphasis this defense puts on pressure up front, in contrast to Herm's.


Herms did the same thing. He tried to install the Tampa 2 here which you have to get pressure with the front four with zero blitzing. Problem is our corners were bad and we had no nose tackle when Ferguson left. This scheme you need certain types of players as opposed to Rexs scheme where it was more multiple.




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Herms did the same thing. He tried to install the Tampa 2 here which you have to get pressure with the front four with zero blitzing. Problem is our corners were bad and we had no nose tackle when Ferguson left. This scheme you need certain types of players as opposed to Rexs scheme where it was more multiple.




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We have a good offensive line finally tho

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Good read. My only issue is that this defense sounds a lot like the Defense we had under Herm Edwards which I’m not a fan of. Offense sounds like it’s going to be legit.


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The best defense in the league use the bend, but don't break philosophy now. They want to stop big play and force the offense to have 10+ play drive to score points. In those ten plays, they expect the offense will make a mistake (drop, wrong route, slip and fall, etc) that puts them in a bad position and then they can go after them. 

Given the changes to the rules, there's not many defenses that come along that smother the opponent from even moving the ball. 

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The best defense in the league use the bend, but don't break philosophy now. They want to stop big play and force the offense to have 10+ play drive to score points. In those ten plays, they expect the offense will make a mistake (drop, wrong route, slip and fall, etc) that puts them in a bad position and then they can go after them. 
Given the changes to the rules, there's not many defenses that come along that smother the opponent from even moving the ball. 


Yea I guess I’m just a fan of the Defense bringing the heat from all directions. I still remember the first time Rex faced NE……that was an awesome performance.





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The Kyle Shanahan philosophy that Mike LaFleur is implementing is very QB friendly due to a complex scheme for opposing DCs to figure out with a lot of different looks from multiple formations, pre-snap motion before almost every play and a balanced attack of run/pass that sets up the play action. 

There will be no more predictable Frank Gore pounded into the heart of the D Line. 

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2 hours ago, SeattleJet said:

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I don't know how to embed the article, but this is a great read on philosophy of their offense and defense. Excited about this season.

Wasn’t there just an article talking about teams trying to copy Shanahans offense and failing?

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2 hours ago, SeattleJet said:

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I don't know how to embed the article, but this is a great read on philosophy of their offense and defense. Excited about this season.

Thank you for posting...

The article and this for me said it all...

The offense must not only fit the personnel,” the entry reads, “it must also be specifically tailored to MAXIMIZE THE STRENGTHS of our players.”

We have not seen this like FOREVER, regardless of the staff!

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Philosophies are lovely, but it comes down to execution. John Idzik had a good philosophy, but failed miserably. 
 
I feel better about the offense right now, which is weird. I think the offense will look more like the Packers than the 49ers, both because of Zach’s strengths and the weakness at TE. Jets will run a lot more 11 personnel than they do in SF. 
 
Getting to the QB with just four guys (or less) is critical for this defense, which is why Lawson was a critical loss. Even with Carl, I expected a lot of rotation on the defensive front, and now I expect a lot more. Guys like Huff and JFM will have every opportunity to prove themselves. Also think Saleh/Ulbrich are simply going to have to blitz more than they’d like to. Delicate balance, as the young secondary needs all the support it can get. 

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3 hours ago, SeattleJet said:

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I don't know how to embed the article, but this is a great read on philosophy of their offense and defense. Excited about this season.

Or offense will be more similar to GB's than the 49ers in most likelihood.

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Yea I guess I’m just a fan of the Defense bringing the heat from all directions. I still remember the first time Rex faced NE……that was an awesome performance.





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To be honest I am super glad to be away from the blitz happy 3-4 defenses like Rex ran. I hope we never run that again. It's cool when it works but over time the bend don't break defenses are better

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Gase didn’t have a game plan he basically was just trying things during the game to see what worked.



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I can’t believe I’m saying this, but his autistic mind came up with the PERFECT game plan. He literally would draw up a scoring drive on every opening drive if a game, a small adjustment would be made, and he would be alone, on the bench, looking puzzled, with his little clipboard. 

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17 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

The best defense in the league use the bend, but don't break philosophy now. They want to stop big play and force the offense to have 10+ play drive to score points. In those ten plays, they expect the offense will make a mistake (drop, wrong route, slip and fall, etc) that puts them in a bad position and then they can go after them. 

Given the changes to the rules, there's not many defenses that come along that smother the opponent from even moving the ball. 

The defensive philosophy nowadays is more about limiting the opponent rather than stopping them. If you have an offense that can score 28 points, you only need to limit the opponent to 24 to win the game, that sort of mindset. Force a FG rather than allow a TD, that's a result.

You don't stop the likes of Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers week in week out.

It used to be that if you had a smothering D you could get by with an offense that scored less than 20 points. The rules now make that so much harder. The emphasis seen so far on offense from both JD and Saleh is encouraging ... I just hope the outcome is equally as encouraging.

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23 hours ago, Wit said:

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but his autistic mind came up with the PERFECT game plan. He literally would draw up a scoring drive on every opening drive if a game, a small adjustment would be made, and he would be alone, on the bench, looking puzzled, with his little clipboard. 

Gase would often have this look on his face like “that’s wierd, when I had Peyton Manning, Decker and Demariyus Thomas playing for me and called that same vanilla play on 3rd down somehow it worked”

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