slimjasi Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, slats said: We can only imagine how you would’ve been with him here, given Josh Allen’s first two seasons in the league. There’s no doubt that you would’ve been leading the post count charge to run him out of town, making the place enjoyable for everyone. To be fair, I think 80 was pro-Darnold heading into year 3, so I have to assume he would have been pro-Allen, given they were on the same timeline. I think Darnold busting so badly really f*cked a lot of us up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, slimjasi said: To be fair, I think 80 was pro-Darnold heading into year 3, so I have to assume he would have been pro-Allen, given they were on the same timeline. I think Darnold busting so badly really f*cked a lot of us up. I don’t recall anything positive about Darnold from him then, I do know that he was pretty adamant about Allen being nothing but a RB at that time, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, slats said: I don’t recall anything positive about Darnold from him then, I do know that he was pretty adamant about Allen being nothing but a RB at that time, though. Like most people here, he wanted to give Darnold a 3rd year, I remember that. It is well known that he was highly critical of Allen, but so were a lot of other people. He gets in trouble because everyone remembers the "running back" thing, but a lot of people were mocking Allen back in those days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said: Nobody is debating the Bills aren’t the best team in the league. That’s clear after last night. But… In a hypothetical scenario, if catastrophe struck the Bills and Allen went down, the team gets riddled with multiple impactful injuries and they implode down the stretch (Similar to 2021 Ravens) what chance would we give the Jets to be the 2021 Bengals and seize that opportunity to win the division over the Fins and Pats? parallels: - hard luck franchise that’s seen more losing than winning - 2nd year qb with rookie campaign marred by injury -promising rookie wide receiver looking to become a star -young head coach Yes, the Bengals comparison has been beaten to death over the last 9 months. But what are the chances that the stars actually align for once? What if Spartacus had a Panzer? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 It's week 2 ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, slimjasi said: To be fair, I think 80 was pro-Darnold heading into year 3, so I have to assume he would have been pro-Allen, given they were on the same timeline. I think Darnold busting so badly really f*cked a lot of us up. No one here was pro-allen until after his breakout season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Sharky7337 said: No one here was pro-allen until after his breakout season. yeah, "pro-allen" is probably strong, but I do think people would have been arguing to give him a 3rd season just like many wanted to give Darnold a 3rd season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, slats said: We can only imagine how you would’ve been with him here, given Josh Allen’s first two seasons in the league. There’s no doubt that you would’ve been leading the post count charge to run him out of town, making the place enjoyable for everyone. It sure is getting fun repeatedly having the same, lone moderator continue to tell me that I'm making JN a less fun place to be. Sounds like another PVO thread is necessary! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, slats said: I don’t recall anything positive about Darnold from him then, I do know that he was pretty adamant about Allen being nothing but a RB at that time, though. At least I was saying he was a GOOD Running Back at the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, slimjasi said: To be fair, I think 80 was pro-Darnold heading into year 3, so I have to assume he would have been pro-Allen, given they were on the same timeline. I think Darnold busting so badly really f*cked a lot of us up. 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Like most people here, he wanted to give Darnold a 3rd year, I remember that. It is well known that he was highly critical of Allen, but so were a lot of other people. He gets in trouble because everyone remembers the "running back" thing, but a lot of people were mocking Allen back in those days. 1 hour ago, Sharky7337 said: No one here was pro-allen until after his breakout season. @slats decimated 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Shouldn’t matter. I’ve been told that the environment and weaponz are more important than the QB so the Bills can just roll someone else in there and continue dominating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Shouldn’t matter. I’ve been told that the environment and weaponz are more important than the QB so the Bills can just roll someone else in there and continue dominating. They certainly wouldn't "dominate" with Case Keenum, but I dare say they're so loaded they should still win this division with relative ease, Tua's ascension notwithstanding. Keenum is nothing if not the consummate game manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, slimjasi said: Like most people here, he wanted to give Darnold a 3rd year, I remember that. It all crashed and burned in Week 1 of that year. Most particularly on the play where he got sacked out of bounds rather than throwing it away. The kind of monumentally stupid stuff that no QB worth his salt does. And the exact same thing Geno did on at least one occasion, too. There's just no coming back from that. If you're too stupid to throw it away for a loss of 0 rather than allowing yourself to get tackled for a loss of 5 you're just a dumb, dumb QB and there's no fixing that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The...pig..is....ripe? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 ……I would still be loving you When mountains crumble to the sea There will still be you and me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: It sure is getting fun repeatedly having the same, lone moderator continue to tell me that I'm making JN a less fun place to be. Sounds like another PVO thread is necessary! Feels great to be out of the crosshairs. Thanks, pal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, Larz said: ……I would still be loving you When mountains crumble to the sea There will still be you and me No one wants to hear your ode to Jamal Adams, Larz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: No one wants to hear your ode to Jamal Adams, Larz. Jamal is your Geno. And I respect that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, jgb said: Jamal is your Geno. And I respect that. My hatred for Jamal Adams is "generational". And by that I mean I'm gonna hate his grandkids, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: My hatred for Jamal Adams is "generational". And by that I mean I'm gonna hate his grandkids, too. Hatiest in the Nay-shun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 15 hours ago, slats said: We can only imagine how you would’ve been with him here, given Josh Allen’s first two seasons in the league. There’s no doubt that you would’ve been leading the post count charge to run him out of town, making the place enjoyable for everyone. To be fair Allen's improvement as a passer is almost unprecedented in the modern NFL. He basically broke Football Outsiders' whole system lol. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 18 hours ago, FootballLove said: Even though we'll probably go 0-6 in the division again, that's probably our clearest shot to the playoffs. Here's what has to happen: Jets sweep NE (like the Bills and Fish will do too) Jets split with the Bills, stealing one at home. Jets beat the Fish at home, then, in a miracle, beat the Fish there too. Jets go 5-1. Bills? They split with us and the Fish, going 4-2. We'll know Sunday when the Bills travel to the Fish. Go Fish! yeah there's no way in hell i am rooting for the dolphins to win. idc one way or the other about the bills at all. i can't stand the freaking dolphins or patriots though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, neckdemon said: yeah there's no way in hell i am rooting for the dolphins to win. idc one way or the other about the bills at all. i can't stand the freaking dolphins or patriots though Couple more years of domination and they’ll grate on you, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: To be fair Allen's improvement as a passer is almost unprecedented in the modern NFL. He basically broke Football Outsiders' whole system lol. Totally agree except that outliers don’t break a system, they validate it. There’s a reason why every team with a question mark at QB brings up Allen as a reason for hope — because the model is right so often that those outliers are “holy sh*t” occurrences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Anytime someone wants to revisit a post minimum for starting a new thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, jgb said: Couple more years of domination and they’ll grate on you, too. i don't think we will ever see a situation like brady and the pats again. the bills will be good for a bit, but its extremely unlikely it will come close to a dynasty like the pats were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrebetOverKeyshawn Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Anytime someone wants to revisit a post minimum for starting a new thread... We literally just saw Baltimore last year sitting at 8-3, cruising to the #1 seed, with an MVP caliber QB, go 0-6 down the stretch after getting derailed by significant injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Anytime someone wants to revisit a post minimum for starting a new thread... it's pretty easy to ignore threads you don't like. do you really care that much if there's a thread you don't care for on the front page for a day or so? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 19 hours ago, undertow said: Jets beat Jacoby Brissett and now we are Super Bowl bound. Actually Nick Chubb beat Jacoby Brissett, a bad beat if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 22 hours ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said: Nobody is debating the Bills aren’t the best team in the league. That’s clear after last night. But… In a hypothetical scenario, if catastrophe struck the Bills and Allen went down, the team gets riddled with multiple impactful injuries and they implode down the stretch (Similar to 2021 Ravens) what chance would we give the Jets to be the 2021 Bengals and seize that opportunity to win the division over the Fins and Pats? parallels: - hard luck franchise that’s seen more losing than winning - 2nd year qb with rookie campaign marred by injury -promising rookie wide receiver looking to become a star -young head coach Yes, the Bengals comparison has been beaten to death over the last 9 months. But what are the chances that the stars actually align for once? Pretty sure the Bills, Fins and Pats would all need to collapse for the Jets to win the division…and then be one n done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Jet2020 said: Pretty sure the Bills, Fins and Pats would all need to collapse for the Jets to win the division…and then be one n done. Buffalo has a top 5 offense and defense. They would beat the Jets by 20 with either of those things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 22 hours ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said: Nobody is debating the Bills aren’t the best team in the league. That’s clear after last night. But… In a hypothetical scenario, if catastrophe struck the Bills and Allen went down, the team gets riddled with multiple impactful injuries and they implode down the stretch (Similar to 2021 Ravens) what chance would we give the Jets to be the 2021 Bengals and seize that opportunity to win the division over the Fins and Pats? parallels: - hard luck franchise that’s seen more losing than winning - 2nd year qb with rookie campaign marred by injury -promising rookie wide receiver looking to become a star -young head coach Yes, the Bengals comparison has been beaten to death over the last 9 months. But what are the chances that the stars actually align for once? If my brother were a woman and had he been my uncle's brother....He would have been my aunt instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 19 hours ago, slimjasi said: To be fair, I think 80 was pro-Darnold heading into year 3, so I have to assume he would have been pro-Allen, given they were on the same timeline. I think Darnold busting so badly really f*cked a lot of us up. I was wrong about Darnold: 1. After draft - “Macc the blind squirrel found a nut and was bailed out from drafting an undraftable Josh Rosen thanks to Dave Gettleman.” 2. After Darnold’s first year - “The Jets better bring in a credible veteran as Plan B next season.” 3. After Darnold’s second season - “If the Jets don’t bring in a credible veteran, I’m not watching next season.” And I didn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, neckdemon said: it's pretty easy to ignore threads you don't like. do you really care that much if there's a thread you don't care for on the front page for a day or so? No, I don't. Actually, there is very little I care about when it comes to an internet website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrebetOverKeyshawn Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Jet2020 said: Pretty sure the Bills, Fins and Pats would all need to collapse for the Jets to win the division…and then be one n done. This is where I disagree, patriots look worse than the Jets so far and quite frankly it’s shocking they won as many games as they did last year. In reality they’ll be 1-3 after Baltimore and GB the next two weeks. The Dolphins are the unknown, we will know a lot more about them after seeing how they stack up with the bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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