Popular Post PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 Got the devastation but here are a few things that are silver lining, some we didn't have last year. We won the turnover battle huge. Penalties were really low, 2 for 10 yards. 5 sacks on one of the most mobile QB's in the NFL 67% completion by the back up QB A kicker who actually kicks field goals Breece had 109 yards on his first 2 carries and now he is back up by pro bowl cook. Just saying, maybe give it a week of ZW practicing with the 1's and NH actually planning for ZW. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jolot Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 No it’s not . It’s never too early . 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I for one am looking forward to having to caveat every post with “I hope Zach does well, though” for the next 4 months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, jgb said: I for one am looking forward to having to caveat every post with “I hope Zach does well, though” for the next 4 months. And if the team makes a play off run you'll be saying the same crap. It's just who you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Level-headed optimism. I'm still sitting here numb from my head to my toe, so I needed to read this. Thank you. You're right. Gotta give props to coaches and the other 52. Ain't over yet. But it won't be Zach. We need another savior. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jolot said: No it’s not . It’s never too early . Someone could have given up on the Jets forever when they were 8-5 in December of 2011 and they'd still be correct to this day. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PorP said: And if the team makes a play off run you'll be saying the same crap. It's just who you are. Correct. I am the guy who is usually right. Pleasure to meet you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I am not sure I can survive another 16 games watching Zack Wilson (try to) play QB. Having said that, friggin Breece Hall is going to be (if he isn't already) the best RB in football bar none if he stays on the field, The guy is just unbelievable. We have so much talent at the skills, if somehow we can snag a competent QB we can still make a lot of noise in the AFC. How amazing was it after hard knocks, seeing Gipson being the guy to win the game for us a la NE last season LOL with the PR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, jgb said: I for one am looking forward to having to caveat every post with “I hope Zach does well, though” for the next 4 months. "Zach wasn't that bad" "This isn't on Zach" "Zach is improving" @Irish Jet 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Someone could have given up on the Jets forever when they were 8-5 in 2011 and they'd still be correct to this day. Time for JD to have open tryouts in the parking lot like in the movie “Invincible?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, jgb said: Correct. I am the guy who is usually right. Pleasure to meet you. You are the guy who plays the odds. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, jgb said: Time for JD to have open tryouts in the parking lot like in the movie “Invincible?” I'd pay good money to watch that tryout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PorP said: You are the guy who plays the odds. Nothing more. sh*t, my secret is out. And you’re damned right I am. The real question is: why doesn’t everyone? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It's just such a sh*t spot because the roster is too talented to tank for Caleb but Zach is Zach we we probably have like a 9 win ceiling unless there's a miracle and his balls suddenly drop. We all know the football Gods would never allow such a miracle to occur. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, PorP said: Got the devastation but here are a few things that are silver lining, some we didn't have last year. We won the turnover battle huge. Penalties were really low, 2 for 10 yards. 5 sacks on one of the most mobile QB's in the NFL 67% completion by the back up QB A kicker who actually kicks field goals Breece had 109 yards on his first 2 carries and now he is back up by pro bowl cook. Just saying, maybe give it a week of ZW practicing with the 1's and NH actually planning for ZW. We got off to a great start last year because we had Breece healthy and AVT. This year we added some more weapons, have Becton back - Zach will still be helped by Arod - no reason why we can't be where we were last year before the injury to Breece - but even better with Becton run blocking for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PorP said: You are the guy who plays the odds. Nothing more. So @jgb utilizes the data at hand to make the best possible decision, and this isn't seen as a positive attribute to you? No wonder JN is filled with so many degenerate gamblers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, jgb said: sh*t, my secret is out. And you’re damned right I am. The real question is: why doesn’t everyone? Because to play the odds means I gave up on the season 4 minutes into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PorP said: Because to play the odds means I gave up on the season 4 minutes into it. Yes and we all probably should be doing that. Hardly any of us CAN but that is beside the point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I'd pay good money to watch that tryout. Watch? Participate! I’m only a few years older than Rodgers and there isn’t a lot of mileage on my arm. Different story for you— 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PorP said: Because to play the odds means I gave up on the season 4 minutes into it. You can predict and hope different things though 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: So he utilizes the data at hand to make the best possible decision, and this isn't seen as a positive attribute by you? No wonder JN is filled with so many degenerate gamblers. It's a great and needed skill set. Middle management everywhere does it. But true success comes from belief in people, thinking outside the box and talking calculated risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PorP said: It's a great and needed skill set. Middle management everywhere does it. But true success comes from belief in people, thinking outside the box and talking calculated risk. Odds are that this statement is bullsh*t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I'm just trying to get through the workday. Stayed up late to watch the post-game, drank one more than planned. Woke up today feeling down due to the AR injury. I'm a grown man still letting this crap affect my days, lol - need to do some self-scouting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PorP said: It's a great and needed skill set. Middle management everywhere does it. But true success comes from belief in people, thinking outside the box and talking calculated risk. I believe in Gardner Minshew, and trading for him would be an outside-the-box solution of sorts. Does that count? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, PorP said: Because to play the odds means I gave up on the season 4 minutes into it. Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, jgb said: Odds are that this statement is bullsh*t Maybe you're not as good at odds as you think you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, jgb said: I for one am looking forward to having to caveat every post with “I hope Zach does well, though” for the next 4 months. I'm not. He was objectively the worst QB in the NFL the past two years, and he wasn't great last night, win or not. I refuse to engage in the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome on this. We are once again the wort team in the NFL at the most key position in the NFL. We may compete because of the D, or the RB's, but that only gets you so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, jgb said: I for one am looking forward to having to caveat every post with “I hope Zach does well, though” for the next 4 months. It's like some twisted Hell loop. We will be watching a loaded roster win 7 or 8 games for the next two seasons having the same repetitive arguments over Zach Wilson. There will be juuuuuuuuust enough good moments to give people false hope. And it will essentially be three straight years of the same Jets fan experience - a very talented team held back by a bottom QB that we have the same discussion about on a daily basis It's so depressing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PorP said: Maybe you're not as good at odds as you think you are. Odds are he's still more fun at parties though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Warfish said: I refuse to engage in the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome on this. We are once again the wort team in the NFL at the most key position in the NFL. We may compete because of the D, or the RB's, but that only gets you so far. Just now, slimjasi said: It's like some twisted Hell loop. We will be watching a loaded roster win 7 or 8 games for the next two seasons having the same repetitive arguments over Zach Wilson. There will be juuuuuuuuust enough good moments to give people false hope. And it will essentially be three straight years of the same Jets fan experience - a very talented team held back by a bottom QB that we have the same discussion about on a daily basis It's so depressing Time is a flat circle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, jgb said: You can predict and hope different things though This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I believe in Gardner Minshew, and trading for him would be an outside-the-box solution of sorts. Does that count? For any finite resource — and yes that includes time and effort to inspire and develop people — informed decisions must be made to maximize the return of the application of those resources. ”If you prioritize everything, you prioritize nothing.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 If the Jets run with Wilson as the QB1 the rest of the season, then THEY are giving up. This defense is too good to waste another year. The need to do whatever it takes to get a veteran QB in here who can act as a game manager and keep mistakes to a minimum and let the defense do their thing to keep us in every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PorP said: Maybe you're not as good at odds as you think you are. The data disagrees with you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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