C Mart Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Brooke Pryor @bepryor The deep ball is dead. There were 3,416 attempts of 15+ air yards in 2022, fewest since 2006. Why? "It's directly attached to Patrick Mahomes. Teams have sat there and said, 'We are going to take these home-run hitting QBs and make them hit singles.'" espn.com/nfl/story/_/id… 9/13/23, 9:54 AM https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38378450/nfl-death-long-passing-deep-ball-aerial-yards-negative-trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 It’s free so JN shouldn’t be in trouble? If so, mods can delete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I think it comes down to a few trends. Defenses playing deeper, taking away deep passes. D Lineman being so athletic, and a decrease in O Line play across the league, so QBs don't have time to let a receiver run 40 yards down field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 8 hours ago, C Mart said: It’s free so JN shouldn’t be in trouble? If so, mods can delete This one is fine. There is no paywall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Brady has been doing this for 25 years. Short passes gain more yardage than run plays while having a low risk of turnovers. Maybe teams wanted to eliminate the long ball because of Mahomes but dink and dunk keeps your defense fresh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 No, just that guys good at it are rare AF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I also think it really requires a very strong underneath threat. Like the reason it worked so well in KC was b/c of the combination of Kelce and Tyreek. In 2007, it was Moss and Welker. Antonio Brown and Wallace etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 The Eagles apparently have no problem dropping bombs to Smith and Brown. With most teams these days it is painful to watch though: Adam Gase style dink and dunk drives culminating in FGs or punts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Can we blame analytics? It did a lot to ruin baseball, why not this sport too!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Who was the DC that showed the league how to beat Mahomes in the Super Bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 20 hours ago, chirorob said: I think it comes down to a few trends. Defenses playing deeper, taking away deep passes. D Lineman being so athletic, and a decrease in O Line play across the league, so QBs don't have time to let a receiver run 40 yards down field. I think the DL and olbs are so athletic and the holding rules are enforced to the extent that qbs have to be more mobile and get the ball out quicker. Put a guy like Xavier Gipson in there and have him run a quick out and his cut will get him open. Put the ball there and get 6 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Somewhere out there, Chad Pennington is crying tears of joy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Where’s norm Snead when you need him. I guess I’ll read the article. Seems to me the rules have loosened up the defensive backs a bit and they’re not letting the receivers get to the long balls. But maybe it’s because teams just can’t cover the shorter passes. IMO in the passing game the receiver always has the advantage of knowing where he needs to go. Couple that with a qb who can throw the ball to a spot quickly and there’s yardage to be gained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 This is why OL is less important than ever, but so many here seem to disagree. Shorter passes = less time needed to block = Going all in on OL is a waste of resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I guess whoever wrote the article hasn’t watched Jordan Addison and Tyreek Hill so far this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I think it's attached to the league going more towards passing, than rushing. In most cases, the deep pass is usually set up by a good rushing attack because the LBs move up, which in turn causes the safeties to move up, or play more single high coverage. If the rushing game isn't as prevalent as before, safeties can play back more and funnel everything in front of them. It's not dead, but it's less frequent now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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