PatsFanTX Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I know,just joking with you.But you have to admit the pats did run a lot of screens last year.If there was a way of checking i would be sure that they would of lead the league. Ten, the Pats will always run a ton of screens and the reason why is simple. It makes teams reluctant to blitz. This is extremely important especially when the Pats go 5-wide with no RB in the backfield. I would also bet that more than 50% of the Pats screens last year came when Brady audibiled at the LOS when he sniffed a blitz coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 how about this one bro-go fuuck yourself and FIND them yourself I'm through with you :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Ten, the Pats will always run a ton of screens and the reason why is simple. It makes teams reluctant to blitz. This is extremely important especially when the Pats go 5-wide with no RB in the backfield. I would also bet that more than 50% of the Pats screens last year came when Brady audibiled at the LOS when he sniffed a blitz coming. While that's true don't feel it's the main reason,i feel the pats ran a lot of screen to basicly act as a running game(since Dillon wasn't getting the job).I don't think they ran as many in 2004 when Dillon was on form. If yu can get it to work though more power to you,if you can costantly pull off a high percentage play with no risk,i can't see how it's a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 While that's true don't feel it's the main reason,i feel the pats ran a lot of screen to basicly act as a running game(since Dillon wasn't getting the job).I don't think they ran as many in 2004 when Dillon was on form. If yu can get it to work though more power to you,if you can costantly pull off a high percentage play with no risk,i can't see how it's a bad thing. and it is in fact what WE'VE been doing all pre-season Ten-using the short passing game in lieu of the run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Branch would immediately become the Jets #1 WR. Coles isn't that good anymore. Hardly. Coles is certainly better than Branch. Hard to blame him for meager stats with QB's like Testaverde and Bollinger throwing to him for much of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hardly. Coles is certainly better than Branch. Hard to blame him for meager stats with QB's like Testaverde and Bollinger throwing to him for much of the year. LOL those idiots sound like Coles is 36 when he's only 27 the same age as branch and has acomplished ALOT more in the NFL then branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I'll bet the Jets offer is #2 next year and Justin McCaeirens for Branch. Just a gut feeling I have. Jets would get their man and Pats would get a wr and a high draft choice. /discuss That's the offer I would make. I wouldn't trade a first rounder for a veteran player, unless said veteran was descended from Jesus and had the Magical Jesus Powers... Anyway. As a side note, even if we don't end up with Branch, we've totally convinced him that he has value greater than what the Pats want to give him. SO, they can definitely count him out for the rest of the season. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ EcKo151 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 With the extra 2nd the Jets have, and giving up McCareins it'd be a good deal. Not necessarily for this season, because Pennington is not the long-term answer...But with the potential of Clemens, and both Branch and Coles in their mid-20's, that could be pretty formidable... Coles as the #2 option could thrive on single coverage and use his quickness more often...Not sure how Branch would handle double-teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 and it is in fact what WE'VE been doing all pre-season Ten-using the short passing game in lieu of the run To pull it off costantly though you need to be able to keep the defense honest and be able to connect on passes down the field.Something we can't do But i reckon we've ran a few more screens in pre season,Mangold has looked really nice on selling his block before getting to the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A #2 for Deion Fricken Branch? Are you guys all on crack? Let Seattle make that deal. Keep the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A #2 for Deion Fricken Branch? Are you guys all on crack? Let Seattle make that deal. Keep the pick. PREACH ON BROTHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Jets | Financial agreement reached with Branch; trade with Patriots next obstacle Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:08:08 -0700 ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports New England Patriots WR Deion Branch has reached an agreement with the New York Jets on a long-term deal that meets his contract demands. However, the Jets still would need to come to an agreement with the Patriots to acquire Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Anyway. As a side note, even if we don't end up with Branch, we've totally convinced him that he has value greater than what the Pats want to give him. SO, they can definitely count him out for the rest of the season. Enjoy. another good point-strategic move on the Jets part-possibly taking away Brady's #1 offensive weapon-if we can sign him and even if we DON'T might just neuralize him in the way uart suggests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 You can forget about it. No way they trade Branch to a team in the same division unless they are ready to part with about two first round picks. If they do, you should be very concerned because that means they think absolutely nothing of him and aren't worried about having to face him twice in a season. unless they think he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 unless they think he sucks If they thought he sucked then why would they allegedly be asking for two #1s? A smart move for the Jets would have been to check NE's demand. As long as it's high, offer Branch the moon, then tell Branch and his agent you can't make the deal cause the Pats want too much. Will keep Branch holding out, add to ill will between Pats and Branch. We're not good enough to matter, but something like this might have helped in '04. It's also a true weasel move and unfair to the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Pats are asking for two #1's...no way is he worth that much. If I were Branch, I would have asked those guys why didn't you pay me the money if I'm worth that much. If I were drunk, maybe J-Mac and our #2...but, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Big difference. In 2001 Brady was handcuffed by BB and CW and never went downfield. Now the long ball is used multiple times a game. there was a " coaches don't have to handcuff chad from throwing long" joke you missed. you're slipping old man;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 If they thought he sucked then why would they allegedly be asking for two #1s? A smart move for the Jets would have been to check NE's demand. As long as it's high, offer Branch the moon, then tell Branch and his agent you can't make the deal cause the Pats want too much. Will keep Branch holding out, add to ill will between Pats and Branch. We're not good enough to matter, but something like this might have helped in '04. It's also a true weasel move and unfair to the player. screw the players,,, cogs in the bosses play toys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Plus, isnt Branch gay. That's the rumors.. He wants out of un-gay-friendly Boston,,, He is actually trying to get his agent to push for a trade to San Fran or a job as a cub reporter in Max's JetNation's intern' program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 According to Boston.com Second-round pick Chad Jackson, who was supposed to come in and give the team enough leverage over Branch to avoid this situation in the first place, remained in street clothes, as he has all summer. Free agent acquisition Reche Caldwell also didn't play last night. Those guys, in theory, should have become the new Nos. 1 and 2 receivers in New England if Branch and Givens were lost over money, but Jackson has thus far only proven that he has a hamstring that does not respond well to treatment or rest, while Caldwell has affirmed thus far the Chargers' decision to give up on him after having made him a second-round pick in 2002. If anyone can honestly say he's a No. 1 or even a No. 2 receiver in an NFL offense, they are more optimistic than Mary Poppins. ahem........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Plus, isnt Branch gay. That's the rumors.. He wants out of un-gay-friendly Boston,,, He is actually trying to get his agent to push for a trade to San Fran or a job as a cub reporter in Max's JetNation's intern' program They seem to like Brady okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 They seem to like Brady okay. you have a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Tx & Troll...get it out of Branch's ass. He would be the #2 here. Regardless or not of Coles' toe injury which obviously isn't effecting him much (with 4 QB's last season and not even a decent complement on the other side of him still posted 75 grabs for 850 yards and 5 TD's). Coles is a #1 Wide Reciever. Period. If you think otherwise, then check your IQ. LC is a #1. Deal with it. Branch would be the #2 here with #1 capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 124, it was posted earlier that it could be a 2nd and a "pretty good player" i dont see them giving a 1st for him...no way They won't give a 1st round pick for him which is what I'm saying that unless they do New England is not going to trade him to an in division opponent / rival. The only reason Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo is because they were the only team willing to give a 1st round draft choice and New England thought he was done. Branch is entering the prime of his career and to seek less then a 1st round pick from a rival / division opponent would be stupid and we all know BB & Pioli arn't dumb. It's either going to be a 1st round pick or wait until he's a FA at the end of the season. I would be VERY VERY VERY surprised if we got him for a 2nd round pick and a player....besides...what player do we have that could possibly help them that we have great depth at? LB & DB...who are we giving up? David Barrett? Derrick Strait? Matt Chatham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 pretty good post 124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 read the blurb from Boston.com above-they obviously NEED a WR-hey how great was that Chad Jackson pick baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Big difference. In 2001 Brady was handcuffed by BB and CW and never went downfield. Now the long ball is used multiple times a game. I thought that was Greg Anderson's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 great post.... just from the 3 that you posted..i would say STRAIT would be the man.. They won't give a 1st round pick for him which is what I'm saying that unless they do New England is not going to trade him to an in division opponent / rival. The only reason Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo is because they were the only team willing to give a 1st round draft choice and New England thought he was done. Branch is entering the prime of his career and to seek less then a 1st round pick from a rival / division opponent would be stupid and we all know BB & Pioli arn't dumb. It's either going to be a 1st round pick or wait until he's a FA at the end of the season. I would be VERY VERY VERY surprised if we got him for a 2nd round pick and a player....besides...what player do we have that could possibly help them that we have great depth at? LB & DB...who are we giving up? David Barrett? Derrick Strait? Matt Chatham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Listening to WEEI Boston sports radio: A #2 and player who could be: Coles or Hobson. Yup, Coles. Don't shoot me. That's what the radio heads are saying. Something about his contract being less that it is now because the Jest would have to pay his bonus? BTW 24, I wouldn't have given a box of donuts for Bledsoe. The chances of him winning a SB are ZERO. This stuff is kind of fun, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Listening to WEEI Boston sports radio: A #2 and player who could be: Coles or Hobson. Yup, Coles. Don't shoot me. That's what the radio heads are saying. Something about his contract being less that it is now because the Jest would have to pay his bonus? BTW 24, I wouldn't have given a box of donuts for Bledsoe. The chances of him winning a SB are ZERO. no way Princess Sweetie Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 They won't give a 1st round pick for him which is what I'm saying that unless they do New England is not going to trade him to an in division opponent / rival. The only reason Bledsoe ended up in Buffalo is because they were the only team willing to give a 1st round draft choice and New England thought he was done. Branch is entering the prime of his career and to seek less then a 1st round pick from a rival / division opponent would be stupid and we all know BB & Pioli arn't dumb. It's either going to be a 1st round pick or wait until he's a FA at the end of the season. I would be VERY VERY VERY surprised if we got him for a 2nd round pick and a player....besides...what player do we have that could possibly help them that we have great depth at? LB & DB...who are we giving up? David Barrett? Derrick Strait? Matt Chatham? The real question is supposing that Seattle and the Jets offer the same deal with the same pick. The Pats obviously would take the "hawks offer over the Jets if they were equal, but do the Pats want a top 5 pick in that round or another potential super bowl pick from the bottom of the round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Listening to WEEI Boston sports radio: A #2 and player who could be: Coles or Hobson. Yup, Coles. Don't shoot me. That's what the radio heads are saying. Something about his contract being less that it is now because the Jest would have to pay his bonus? WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!...HOBSON ...maybe...but no way COLES...thats friggin crazy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 LOL those idiots sound like Coles is 36 when he's only 27 the same age as branch and has acomplished ALOT more in the NFL then branch. How many Super Bowl MVP trophy's is Coles carrying around? Thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Tx & Troll...get it out of Branch's ass. He would be the #2 here. Regardless or not of Coles' toe injury which obviously isn't effecting him much (with 4 QB's last season and not even a decent complement on the other side of him still posted 75 grabs for 850 yards and 5 TD's). Coles is a #1 Wide Reciever. Period. If you think otherwise, then check your IQ. LC is a #1. Deal with it. Branch would be the #2 here with #1 capability. Coles is a number one? My ass. You have very low criteria for a number one receiver if you consider him to be one. I guarantee you there is no one on Earth not wearing a pair of green goggles that considers him a number one. He had ONE great season. That's it. Since then, he has been a number 2 receiver. I am not saying Branch is a number one. He isn't. But he IS better than Coles. Stats do not prove everything. Remember against KC last year when Coles dropped two touchdown passes? Some number one receiver there. Branch rarely ever drops the ball. He's more reliable than Coles and has more speed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 How many Super Bowl MVP trophy's is Coles carrying around? Thought so. just like the hall of fame safety Dexter Jackson right? what a COMPLETE MORON you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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