NYjet10 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 some people want him because they think Jones will be done in 2 years. I agree jones will,but then in two years mayne Leon will be a feature back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 i dont see leon being a #1 back ever. hate to say it but we saw that last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYjet10 Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 i dont see leon being a #1 back ever. hate to say it but we saw that last year. Yea but him being a backup for another 2 years could help him get to the point were he can be a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 People want McFadden because every year people want the player over hyped as the best (insert position) since (insert HOF player) Every once in awhile they are a good player. Not often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 leon's def. not a #1 back. mcfadden or chris long is the pick for me xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Leon will never be anything more than a change of pace 3rd down back/return man. McFadden, Jones and Leon would an awesome 3 headed monster attack if we could provide the O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Leon is built better to be an every down RB than McFadden. But I don't want either one as our feature back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Run DMC is one of those guys you don't pass on period. Parcells won't be able to pass on him, and if he does he will be able to trade down. In fact please do me a favor and don't mention McFadden anymore cause he's not going to be an option for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastmover Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Let's secure our exscuses for next year for why we suck. Lets draft all the sexy picks and not fix the line. " well the rookie is not cutting it, the incumbant starter has lost a step' Hell tj hit 1000 yds behind our suck ass line. Build a good line and tj will run better, leon could do serious damage with a good hole to the 2nd level. Play action will be back and we will win alot more games. I think there are a lot of good things that we do, we just need a better line. Semper fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Run DMC is one of those guys you don't pass on period. Parcells won't be able to pass on him, and if he does he will be able to trade down. In fact please do me a favor and don't mention McFadden anymore cause he's not going to be an option for the Jets. Do you think he is big enough to carry the load? He has a smaller height weight ratio than Leon Washington, his hips are closer to Todd Pinkston than any real NFL RB. Could you see him making the move to WR? Lets face it, RUN DMC is 6'2" 215 and Andre Johnson is 6'2" 225. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Run DMC is one of those guys you don't pass on period. Parcells won't be able to pass on him, and if he does he will be able to trade down. In fact please do me a favor and don't mention McFadden anymore cause he's not going to be an option for the Jets. bit- i think BP will lean towards Dorsey, Phins need a lot of help on Dline and RB is not such a need with R brown and chatham. I could see him trading down but Pokes picks are not high enuff for this weak draft class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I'm on the Chris Long bandwagon, it's unrealistic to think DMC will be the next Adrian Peterson, we aren't that lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 bit- i think BP will lean towards Dorsey, Phins need a lot of help on Dline and RB is not such a need with R brown and chatham. chatham friggin sucks. It will come down to the medical reports on R Brown's rehab but if there is any doubt Parcells will have to take Best Available Player, which is DMC. Also the Cowboys could package multiple picks plus a player for DMC. Jerry Jones went to Arkansas there is no way he's gonna sit on the sidelines and watch the best Razorback for 40 years just waltz his way into the league without getting involved. I would think Parcells would have learned from the trade down debacle of 1997 and just take the player. I also can't understand Jets fans saying pass on Dmac when they would be lucky to have him on the clock at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 chatham friggin sucks. It will come down to the medical reports on R Brown's rehab but if there is any doubt Parcells will have to take Best Available Player, which is DMC. Also the Cowboys could package multiple picks plus a player for DMC. Jerry Jones went to Arkansas there is no way he's gonna sit on the sidelines and watch the best Razorback for 40 years just waltz his way into the league without getting involved. I would think Parcells would have learned from the trade down debacle of 1997 and just take the player. I also can't understand Jets fans saying pass on Dmac when they would be lucky to have him on the clock at all. chatham played well as a backup, he is not a star but he ran well for Phins when his number was called.. BP will take package from Pokes if MB3 is in deal, that is my biggest fear People say that mcfadden's size is an issue, i do not see it, the dude is the best RB in college i have evah seen since Bo, AP was always hurt in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 People say that mcfadden's size is an issue, i do not see it, the dude is the best RB in college i have evah seen since Bo, AP was always hurt in college agreed he's an absolute stud. Basically any team without Ladanian, AP or Steven Jackson type of top tier runner on the roster can't justify passing on DMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Mcfadden isnt even close to AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Most of McFaddens great runs have been out of the gimmick option style set or, where he uses his speed to get to the outside. He wont have that luxury in the NFL as the hash marks are tighter. The jury is still out on McFadden. His ability to run out of a pro sytle set between the tackles is yet to be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Our biggest need is d line. However, if Mcfadden is available you take him. Or You fleece the cowboys for him. Their picks aren't that high, who do you think they would throw in as a player to be named? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I'm on the Chris Long bandwagon, it's unrealistic to think DMC will be the next Adrian Peterson, we aren't that lucky. oooooh yeah =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 People want McFadden because every year people want the player over hyped as the best (insert position) since (insert HOF player) Every once in awhile they are a good player. Not often Agree and when Jones is washed up a few years from now there will be another big name RB in the draft or FA.........Fix the OL and get consistent QB play and we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Agree and when Jones is washed up a few years from now there will be another big name RB in the draft or FA.........Fix the OL and get consistent QB play and we will be fine. Exactly. The running back situation will work out by itself once the oline and QB situation are settled. Peterson was the exception last year, as he was a once in a lifetime talent. McFadden is not on his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Our biggest need is d line. However, if Mcfadden is available you take him. Or You fleece the cowboys for him. Their picks aren't that high, who do you think they would throw in as a player to be named? If the Jets take McFadden I will absolutely puke. We'll have too much money tied up in the RB position with an O line that sucks. He's a "toy" we don't need at this moment. I want defense first and I'll settle for Chris Long or Calais Campbell when we pick. Hopefully, we can trade for or sign an established O line player or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Exactly. The running back situation will work out by itself once the oline and QB situation are settled. Peterson was the exception last year, as he was a once in a lifetime talent. McFadden is not on his level. Peterson also has a GREAT OL infront of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Peterson also has a GREAT OL infront of him. Its helped, no question. But a lot of his big runs this year had just as much to do with his god given ability as it did to the guys in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 chatham friggin sucks. It will come down to the medical reports on R Brown's rehab but if there is any doubt Parcells will have to take Best Available Player, which is DMC. Also the Cowboys could package multiple picks plus a player for DMC. Jerry Jones went to Arkansas there is no way he's gonna sit on the sidelines and watch the best Razorback for 40 years just waltz his way into the league without getting involved. I would think Parcells would have learned from the trade down debacle of 1997 and just take the player. I also can't understand Jets fans saying pass on Dmac when they would be lucky to have him on the clock at all. See Blair Thomas, Reggie Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 chatham played well as a backup, he is not a star but he ran well for Phins when his number was called.. BP will take package from Pokes if MB3 is in deal, that is my biggest fear People say that mcfadden's size is an issue, i do not see it, the dude is the best RB in college i have evah seen since Bo, AP was always hurt in college AP was NOT always hurt in collage! Why do people say this. He missed 3 games as a sophmore, sprained ankle. And Broke his collarbone as a senior, diving into the end zone. That is not always hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Its helped, no question. But a lot of his big runs this year had just as much to do with his god given ability as it did to the guys in front of him. I agree that he would be effective behind most any line in the league. But I do think his great OL has helped pad his stats. Not taking anything away from the kid because he is great. He is also a totally different type of back than McFadden coming out and if you don't see that - you really need to get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I agree that he would be effective behind most any line in the league. But I do think his great OL has helped pad his stats. Not taking anything away from the kid because he is great. He is also a totally different type of back than McFadden coming out and if you don't see that - you really need to get a clue. Im sure you said the same thing about Bush- no reason for the hostility. Fact of the matter is, McFadden plays in a gimmick offense. Most of his runs through the middle come out of him playing QB or through the option- something he wont be able to do in the pros. I havent seen enough of him out of the eye formation running down hill, getting power yards. McFaddens speed is his best asset, but watch some of his highlights, theyre from him on the short side of the field where he gets the corner- that will be mimized at the next level, hash's are wider, defenses are faster. McFadden could very well turn out to be a beast, but Im not completely sold yet. Tomlinson played in a gimmick type set to and turned out to be a stud, but I dont think Mcfadden is as good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Im sure you said the same thing about Bush- no reason for the hostility. Fact of the matter is, McFadden plays in a gimmick offense. Most of his runs through the middle come out of him playing QB or through the option- something he wont be able to do in the pros. I havent seen enough of him out of the eye formation running down hill, getting power yards. McFaddens speed is his best asset, but watch some of his highlights, theyre from him on the short side of the field where he gets the corner- that will be mimized at the next level, hash's are wider, defenses are faster. McFadden could very well turn out to be a beast, but Im not completely sold yet. Tomlinson played in a gimmick type set to and turned out to be a stud, but I dont think Mcfadden is as good either. Did you really watch DMC run or not, he played with a terrible QB and had to run with 8 in the box all year!!! He had to play some QB cause his QB was a D1ck and pitiful for 90% of the year. He runs with power ..ran all over my tide and had it not for cramps Arkansas would have beat my tide. He is at #1 on every scouting combine's charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Did you really watch DMC run or not, he played with a terrible QB and had to run with 8 in the box all year!!! He had to play some QB cause his QB was a D1ck and pitiful for 90% of the year. He runs with power ..ran all over my tide and had it not for cramps Arkansas would have beat my tide. He is at #1 on every scouting combine's charts Power? All I saw was speed through huge holes. as far as #1 on scouts charts, so was BT and RB!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Im sure you said the same thing about Bush- no reason for the hostility. Fact of the matter is, McFadden plays in a gimmick offense. Most of his runs through the middle come out of him playing QB or through the option- something he wont be able to do in the pros. I havent seen enough of him out of the eye formation running down hill, getting power yards. McFaddens speed is his best asset, but watch some of his highlights, theyre from him on the short side of the field where he gets the corner- that will be mimized at the next level, hash's are wider, defenses are faster. McFadden could very well turn out to be a beast, but Im not completely sold yet. Tomlinson played in a gimmick type set to and turned out to be a stud, but I dont think Mcfadden is as good either. If I came off as hostile I apologize. I don't like McFadden at all at this point and feel his size clearly projects him as a WR at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 McFadden is better than Reggie Bush. More physical, can handle the load, faced better competition, just better overall game. He's not Peterson, but nobody is. If we shore up the Oline in free agency, McFadden is a no brainer pick for us. This draft is nothing special, unfortunately. And that being said, I'm not completely sold on McFadden either. I dont see him make anybody miss often enough like a LT or AD. But there is no question that he is the best talent in this draft. We need a playmaker on this offense. Bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Run DMC is one of those guys you don't pass on period. Parcells won't be able to pass on him, and if he does he will be able to trade down. In fact please do me a favor and don't mention McFadden anymore cause he's not going to be an option for the Jets. agree on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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