Mistalava Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 In the three years before last (when the Jets had no 4th or 5th round picks): 2006: 4 6 103 Brad Smith WR Missouri 4 20 117 Leon Washington RB Florida State 2005: 4 22 123 Kerry Rhodes DB Louisville 5 25 161 Andre Maddox DB North Carolina State 2004: 4 12 108 Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State 4 36 132 Adrian Jones T Kansas 5 11 143 Erik Coleman DB Washington State All in all, not a bad haul in these rounds. Rhodes, Cotchery, and Washington are three of the team's best players right now, and Brad Smith's a contributor. Coleman and Jones served as starters before departing. And really, Maddox was an injury problem, not a talent problem (that we know of). I think it's likely that these picks are chips to trade up, but it doesn't look to me like it would be a bad thing if they were used right where they are. Don't confuse the issue with facts I love this deal! Cap room, a legit NT and flexibility in the draft, it doesn't get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 As a Cincy fan I'm thrilled to have him. He's better than our current tackle John Thornton by far. its a great move if u giuys play a 4-3... if u play a 3-4 then i think u got taken to cleaners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Magini's approval rating is climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Nothing is official guys...Reports of D-Rob trade have been shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 They were salary cap dumps. Vilma cost us 1M against the cap this coming year. Hardly a salary cap dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorjets Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Using the draft value chart, we traded D-Rob and a mid 3rd for Jenkins. Jets 3rd (67 overall) 255 points Jets 5th (133 overall) 39.5 points 294.5 total points Bengals 4th (104 overall) 86 points Bengals 5th (136 overall) 38 points 124 total points 294.5 - 124 = 170.5 = mid 3rd (84 overall) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorjets Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Using the draft value chart, we traded D-Rob and a mid 3rd for Jenkins. Jets 3rd (67 overall) 255 points Jets 5th (133 overall) 39.5 points 294.5 total points Bengals 4th (104 overall) 86 points Bengals 5th (136 overall) 38 points 124 total points 294.5 - 124 = 170.5 = mid 3rd (84 overall) Ignore this post. I use a draft board that don't rotate the picks between teams with the same record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Vilma cost us 1M against the cap this coming year. Hardly a salary cap dump. Well if we wanted him for more than just 2008 then he would have required a substantial contract extension. One could look at it as a salary dump from that perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 We most likely will receive nothing from Robertson, he still has to agree to a contract extension with the Bengals. With all the teams that showed interest in his services why wouldn't he just hold out and force the Jets to cut him. He would command more money as a free agent when more teams are competing for his services because they would give up nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Thats right, no one decent has ever been drafted in the 4th or 5th round.\\Derek Pagel says HI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Well if we wanted him for more than just 2008 then he would have required a substantial contract extension. One could look at it as a salary dump from that perspective. I just figured we would let him walk had we kept him..so Vilma was more of a "get something while you can" player than he was a salary dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 \\Derek Pagel says HI So does Kerry Rhodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 So does Kerry Rhodes So does Leon Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I just figured we would let him walk had we kept him..so Vilma was more of a "get something while you can" player than he was a salary dump. That would be the case if he was any good in the 3-4 to begin with. Then you can at least argue you get a whole season from an above average performing player. He's not even that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 What a joke We'll be lucky to get training camp fodder for a serviceable player Horrible, horrible deal imo Pro Bowl DT's were just moved for 3rd and 5th rd picks...The fact we got a 4th & a 5th for this tub of **** is a miracle. forget the cap space it created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 That would be the case if he was any good in the 3-4 to begin with. Then you can at least argue you get a whole season from an above average performing player. He's not even that. Sperm- what does this do for our 08 and 09 cap situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 D-Rob should do well in cincy ,His favorite color is Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Considering better DT's went for a 3rd and a 5th, this is a GREAT trade for a DT with a bum knee... Jenkins,4th rd, 5th rd, pouha >>>>>>>>>>> Drob, 3rd rd, 5th rd, Pouha Um eCurb - Thats BOTH bum knees (he has bone on bone on both). Great pull, we allways do better in the 4th round each year anyway. Keep it going Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Sperm- what does this do for our 08 and 09 cap situations? Saves us a little over $8M in 2008 if it goes through. Zero DRob cap hit in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 We most likely will receive nothing from Robertson, he still has to agree to a contract extension with the Bengals. With all the teams that showed interest in his services why wouldn't he just hold out and force the Jets to cut him. He would command more money as a free agent when more teams are competing for his services because they would give up nothing. He cant count on that. Beside if he likes Lewis and the Bengals he can have his payday instantly. He's got knee issues, best for him to sign and move on with his life. After all, he stands to walk home with much more money and security. Cap hit and take home money do not in this case coincide (unless of course I am wrong ... but I think the cap hit represents money that he has already been paid in the form of a signing bonus; he is not owed much in actually salary in 2008). Also, I dont think this situation would have gottten this far if he hadnt at least indicated a willingness to sign with the Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Pro Bowl DT's were just moved for 3rd and 5th rd picks...The fact we got a 4th & a 5th for this tub of **** is a miracle. forget the cap space it created. It's because Jet fans want a first round pick for their garbage but yet want to have to pay nothing for an All-Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 See yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D-Rob another draft day blunder GONE.I was so tired of seeing this guy tossed aroundl ike a rag doll week after week. He was overpaid and he SUCKED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i remember shea Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 See yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa D-Rob another draft day blunder GONE.I was so tired of seeing this guy tossed aroundl ike a rag doll week after week. He was overpaid and he SUCKED! Jets DT Robertson not going to Cincy Mar 03, 2008 | 8:02AM | report this Despite numerous indications that a deal would go down, the Cincinnati Bengals once again have failed to trade for a new defensive tackle. FOXSports.com has learned that Dewayne Robertson of the New York Jets, who met with Bengals officials at team headquarters on Monday, will not be traded to Cincinnati. Robertson has two years remaining on the rookie deal he signed as the No. 4 pick of the 2003 draft. He is set to earn $1.5 million in base salary this season. Robertson, who spoke Sunday night to Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, has been a poor fit in the 3-4 defensive scheme New York installed when Eric Mangini became head coach in 2006. Robertson, 26, would likely be better suited to play in a 4-3 system as a penetrating-style defensive tackle. The Bengals thought they had an agreement Friday with Detroit to acquire defensive tackle Shaun Rogers. But a contractual issue nullified the deal, leading to the Lions instead agreeing to send Rogers to Cleveland for a third-round draft pick and cornerback Leigh Bodden. Robertson became expendable in New York when the Jets acquired defensive tackle Kris Jenkins in a Friday trade with Carolina. A source said the new Jets contract Jenkins signed includes $9.5 million in guaranteed money and a $4.5 million roster bonus due in March. The total value of the five-year contract is $30.25 million with $18 million coming in the first three seasons, the source said. Media reports have stated Jenkins was set to earn $20 million in guaranteed money from the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I don't like that the deal is contingent upon them agreeing to a new contract. I hope the Bengals don't cheap out. Hopefully they are embarrassed enough about the Rogers debacle to shut up and pay DRob. I thought they were going to try to go 3-4, but the article claims DRob will be a 3-tech. Wouldn't make sense to get DRob if they were switching to the 3-4. Told ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENSMACKS Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 We got Jenkins, a 3-time pro bowler, for a 3 and a 5. What exactly were you expecting for DRob? we gave up 2 first rounders anda 3rd to get the guy. tannyboy was the player personal guy when we drafted d-rob. this team cannot draft right now we are headed for cap hell give a pyro more matches, he'll burn the place down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 we gave up 2 first rounders anda 3rd to get the guy. tannyboy was the player personal guy when we drafted d-rob. this team cannot draft right now we are headed for cap hell give a pyro more matches, he'll burn the place down You are putting the DRob fiasco on Tanny? C'mon man that was all Bradway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 we gave up 2 first rounders anda 3rd to get the guy. 2 1st's and a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 2 1st's and a 4th I feel so much better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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