MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 "The Yankees' farm system is strong enough to match up with the Padres if the teams revive their discussions on right-hander Jake Peavy. The Padres, according to one major-league source, told the Yankees that a deal would be possible even if the Yankees declined to offer right-hander Phil Hughes. The Padres scouted Hughes in a recent Arizona Fall League game, but the Yankees have zero intention of trading him ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's another article, where it says this is possible... http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8816036/Sources:-Red-Sox-interested-in-Burnett?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=3498 Scroll to the bottom... regarding a Peavy trade with the San Diego Padres as per Foxsports' Ken Rosenthal: "The Padres, according to one major-league source, told the Yankees that a deal would be possible even if the Yankees declined to offer right-hander Phil Hughes. The Padres scouted Hughes in a recent Arizona Fall League game, but the Yankees have zero intention of trading him ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 "The Yankees' farm system is strong enough to match up with the Padres if the teams revive their discussions on right-hander Jake Peavy. The Padres, according to one major-league source, told the Yankees that a deal would be possible even if the Yankees declined to offer right-hander Phil Hughes. The Padres scouted Hughes in a recent Arizona Fall League game, but the Yankees have zero intention of trading him ." Obviously crack and meth have become the breakfast foods of choice in the San Diego front office. If they can get Peavy, DO IT. Buy Hughes the plane ticket. May be in the NL with an one less batter to pitch around, he'll be okay. This is like the day the Mets called the Rays offering Kazmir for Zambrano. Put down the phone: cover the phone to stop them from hearing you laugh out loud; make the deal NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 If the Yankees are able to fool this team, and they actually don't take Phil Hughes in this deal, and say take Jackson, Betances, Melancon, and Kennedy, then the Padres are really the dumbest run franchise in all of sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Please, please, please let this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Obviously crack and meth have become the breakfast foods of choice in the San Diego front office. If they can get Peavy, DO IT. Buy Hughes the plane ticket. May be in the NL with an one less batter to pitch around, he'll be okay. This is like the day the Mets called the Rays offering Kazmir for Zambrano. Put down the phone: cover the phone to stop them from hearing you laugh out loud; make the deal NOW. Now you want to trade the farm I just don't get you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Peavy is an off speed junk guy...I think he'll get clobbered in the AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Peavy is an off speed junk guy...I think he'll get clobbered in the AL I wouldn't call him an off speed guy. He has a cut-fastball, and 4 seamer that can go about 95. hard slider that can go about 85, and also a change, and curve as well. He may be a National League pitcher, but other then Tim Lincecum, he's the best National League Pitcher in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Peavy is good. I just don't want to trade half the farm system for him. Kennedy + a good prospect and maybe a AAAA guy or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 If the Braves and Cubs dont make a deal for him, the Yankees might be able to grab Peavy on the low, like the Mets did with Santana last year after the Yankees & Sox dropped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Peavy is good. I just don't want to trade half the farm system for him. Kennedy + a good prospect and maybe a AAAA guy or two. I think if Hughes isn't apart of the deal then you figure both Austin Jackson, and Dellin Betances would be in it. Along with probably Ian Kennedy. If we want him, that might be the type of deal it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I think if Hughes isn't apart of the deal then you figure both Austin Jackson, and Dellin Betances would be in it. Along with probably Ian Kennedy. If we want him, that might be the type of deal it takes. I would do that deal in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 I thought i'd bring this up: Jake Peavy Vs. American League Teams: 2002: Vs. NYY: 6 IP, 3 hits, 1 ER, 2 BB's, 4 K's Vs. KC: 3 IP, 7 hits, 4 ER, 3 BB's, 3 K's 2003: Vs. MIN: 6.2 IP, 8 hits, 3 ER, 3 BB's, 5 K's Vs. CLE: 5.2 IP, 6 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 3 K's Vs. SEA: 6.2 IP, 4 hits, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K's Vs. SEA: 8 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB's, 5 K's 2004: Vs. KC: 5.1 IP, 3 hits, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K's 2005: Vs. SEA: 7 IP, 3 hits, 0 ER, 1 BB, 10 K's Vs. CLE: 5 IP, 5 hits, 4 ER, 2 BB's, 6 K's Vs. DET: 6 IP, 4 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 10 K's Vs. SEA: 5 IP, 7 hits, 5 ER, 2 BB's, 3 K's 2006: Vs. LAA: 8 IP, 4 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 7 K's Vs. SEA: 8 IP, 6 hits, 1 ER, 0 BB's, 9 K's Vs. OAK: 6 IP, 7 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 6 K's 2007: Vs. TB: 7 IP, 2 hits, 0 ER, 3 BB's, 8 K's Vs. BAL: 6 IP, 6 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 7 K's Vs. BOS: 5 IP, 9 hits, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K's 2008: Vs. NYY: 4 IP, 6 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB's, 4 K's Vs. MIN: 6 IP, 5 hits, 1 ER, 1 BB's, 6 K's Vs. SEA: 6 IP, 10 hits, 3 ER, 1 BB's, 6 K's 13 Quality Starts out of 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Nice find on his starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have seen Peavy pitch a lot here in SD. I would rather have him than CC for reasons mentioned by Max before. This guy is a horse and has success against good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I wouldn't call him an off speed guy. He has a cut-fastball, and 4 seamer that can go about 95. hard slider that can go about 85, and also a change, and curve as well. He may be a National League pitcher, but other then Tim Lincecum, he's the best National League Pitcher in the game. johan..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 johan..... Johan isn't what I call a National League pitcher. Johan is an American League pitcher that got traded to the National League. Jake Peavy, Ben Sheets, and Tim Lincecum are pitchers that have never started for American League teams. Which is why I call them National League pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Now you want to trade the farm I just don't get you Did you see ANYTHING useful about Kennedy or Hughes? I didn't. They both nibble and overthink and refuse to challenge hitters. They won't throw strikes. ANd neither was breaking 90+ consistently nor nor movement on their fastballs nor simply throwing strikes. Can't say I know enough about Melancon, but I'd prefer to keep the unknown over known suckitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I think if Hughes isn't apart of the deal then you figure both Austin Jackson, and Dellin Betances would be in it. Along with probably Ian Kennedy. If we want him, that might be the type of deal it takes. If that is the case, then it prob. makes more sense for the Yankees to spend the money on AJ Burnett or Lowe. Same cost, no prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Peavy is a gamer and has that intensity that can help him succeed in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Peavy is a gamer and has that intensity that can help him succeed in NY. You probably know because he pitches in your town......but don't you think he'd get torched in the AL East after these guys see him a few times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 You make the trade. If he gets torched after a few times, then so be it, but it wont happen. CC was torched by the AL until he got traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I wouldn't call him an off speed guy. He has a cut-fastball, and 4 seamer that can go about 95. hard slider that can go about 85, and also a change, and curve as well. He may be a National League pitcher, but other then Tim Lincecum, he's the best National League Pitcher in the game.[/quote] Did Santana get traded back to the AL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 You make the trade. If he gets torched after a few times, then so be it, but it wont happen. CC was torched by the AL until he got traded. His ERA before the trade would have placed in the Top 20 in the AL. He was struggling. but it was also team wide as well. CC had a pretty good AL track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 His ERA before the trade would have placed in the Top 20 in the AL. He was struggling. but it was also team wide as well. CC had a pretty good AL track record. Correct and most of his struggles came in the first month of the season.... he was fine after his 5th start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 The problem with Peavy is he rarely goes past the 7th inning. In 27 starts last year, he went 8+ 4 times. 2007- never more than 7ip in 34 starts. He'll give you a consistent 7ip, but thats all. The bullpen needs to be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 The problem with Peavy is he rarely goes past the 7th inning. In 27 starts last year, he went 8+ 4 times. 2007- never more than 7ip in 34 starts. He'll give you a consistent 7ip, but thats all. The bullpen needs to be solid. How many pitchers consistently give you more than 7 innings? Seven with Marte/Edwar and Mo in the 8th and 9th is absolutely fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 How many pitchers consistently give you more than 7 innings? Seven with Marte/Edwar and Mo in the 8th and 9th is absolutely fine. Just wanted to make sure everyone understood what they would be getting with Peavy. He is not the type of ace that can pitch a complete game. He cannot give the bullpen a day of rest. Hopefully he would be able to consistently be in the 7ip range, but with teams like the Sawx who are patient at the plate, I would have a little concern about him. I'd love to have him with the Mets, and think he'll do fine with the Yanks if they get him. Just understand completely what you're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 How many times do I have to say it? Johan Santana is a American League pitcher that was traded to the National League, get that through your skulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 How many times do I have to say it? Johan Santana is a American League pitcher that was traded to the National League, get that through your skulls. Actually he came up through NL farm systems....Houston and Florida I believe.....regardless your logic of what qualifies one as a NL pitcher is mind numbing. Is Josh Beckett not really a AL pitcher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 You probably know because he pitches in your town......but don't you think he'd get torched in the AL East after these guys see him a few times? I'm not a pro scout by any means , but the guy has some filthy pitches. He is very consistent. I think a pitcher's attitude is a big deal for pitching in NY. That's one thing Peavy has. I really hope they pull off the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Actually he came up through NL farm systems....Houston and Florida I believe.....regardless your logic of what qualifies one as a NL pitcher is mind numbing. Is Josh Beckett not really a AL pitcher? If you've started games on a consistent basis, and have had success in the American League, you're an American League pitcher. Johan Santana may have come through the Marlins, and Astros, but they got rid of them before ever giving him a chance. Minnesota signed him, and he became the best pitcher in baseball in the American League. Josh Beckett is an American League pitcher because he's had success in the American League. Lincecum, Peavy, Sheets have not pitched in the American league on a consistant basis. Only what they get out of interleague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 i want CC, PEavy and Walter Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 and AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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