Jets1Fan Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 i dont want names necessarily, TAYLOR MAYS, but what position do you think the Jets should draft with their first selection. I know it's early but, I just wanna know what area(s) you think we need the most help at.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 1. Cornerback 2. #1 Wide Receiver 3. Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 i dont want names necessarily, TAYLOR MAYS, but what position do you think the Jets should draft with their first selection. I know it's early but, I just wanna know what area(s) you think we need the most help at.... Head Coach Offensive Coordinator Defensive Coordinator Are there any good ones in the upcoming draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Head Coach Offensive Coordinator Defensive Coordinator Are there any good ones in the upcoming draft? LOL CB - we are terrible there WR - we dont have one worth a **** ILB - Barton is going to be getting a pick bonus and even though I love him, we need to free up cap space. DE - Ellis isnt getting any younger and dope dont help you stay in shape, trust me, I know. I would be happy with any of those positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QB then worry about CB (in the second), WR (trade up into the 2nd or take in the 3rd), and DE (later rounds to add depth and possibly develop into a star edge rusher). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 QB then worry about CB (in the second), WR (trade up into the 2nd or take in the 3rd), and DE (later rounds to add depth and possibly develop into a star edge rusher). How many years are we going to waste a pick on a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 How many years are we going to waste a pick on a QB? when was the last time we drafted a QB in the first? we need a franchise QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 when was the last time we drafted a QB in the first? we need a franchise QB... Think we need to see if any of these guys we have can get the job done and fix some other positions first. The Jets could have a great QB on the roster but nobody has had the opportunity to show that. First round pick is not a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 when was the last time we drafted a QB in the first? we need a franchise QB... You'd be surprised how many QB's drafted in the first round turn out to be duds...I'm still holding out for Brett Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You'd be surprised how many QB's drafted in the first round turn out to be duds...I'm still holding out for Brett Ratliff. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You'd be surprised how many QB's drafted in the first round turn out to be duds...I'm still holding out for Brett Ratliff. considering that almost EVERY qb that the jets drafted in the 1st round has been somewhat successful, i'll take my chances. joe namath, richard todd (sucked), ken o'brien (moderately successful, oh what could have been), chad pennington (he had his good years here). 3 of 4 drafted in the first have been considered successfull jet qbs...all top the jets record books. 1 of 4 won a superbowl. i believe all of them took us to the playoffs. and tangini knows what he's doing. i think we should draft a franchise QB. we finally have an amazing o-line for it. do it tangini. but i certainly wouldn't mind ratliff turning into a great qb. hope he does, he has a lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Pass rushers(we have zero good ones) and a real true #1 WR are our biggest needs imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Pass rushers(we have zero good ones) and a real true #1 WR are our biggest needs imo. I dont want to think much about the offseason yet, but where would you put another passrusher. The Jets have 40+ million locked up in Calvin Pace. They have 40+ million locked up in Vernon Gholston. They still have something like 17 million locked up in Bryan Thomas. You dont get a pass rush out of the DEs or NT in this defense. Upgrading Kenyon Coleman might open more lanes, but even he is on a big deal. Where would you store another pass rusher on the team and how could you justify spending more money on these positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 LOL CB - we are terrible there Top priority. WR - we dont have one worth a **** Cotchery is a VERY good receiver. As for Coles, he's had a rough time of it but I still think he will be a good receiver for awhile. I admit though we do need a #1: a real burner or a big guy at WR. I'm still wondering about how Clowney will turn out, good speed but obviously no reason to think he will be a #1 yet. As for Stuckey, he is a good little possession receiver. I don't think he'll ever be as good as Coles was, but he can fill his spot adequately one day. So our possession tandem soon will be Cotchery and Stuckey, and either Clowney will turn into a burner or we will need to get a #1 here somehow else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 considering that almost EVERY qb that the jets drafted in the 1st round has been somewhat successful, i'll take my chances. joe namath, richard todd (sucked), ken o'brien (moderately successful, oh what could have been), chad pennington (he had his good years here). 3 of 4 drafted in the first have been considered successfull jet qbs...all top the jets record books. 1 of 4 won a superbowl. i believe all of them took us to the playoffs. and tangini knows what he's doing. i think we should draft a franchise QB. we finally have an amazing o-line for it. do it tangini. but i certainly wouldn't mind ratliff turning into a great qb. hope he does, he has a lot of potential. I was referring to QB's in general taken in the first round...you can right a who's who book on them...many are Heisman trophy winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You'd be surprised how many QB's drafted in the first round turn out to be duds...I'm still holding out for Brett Ratliff. I agree We have three young QB's on the roster, well Ainge in on IR, and roids, but still the Jets need to look at these kids to see if they have anything. This doesn't particularly seem to be a very good draft for QB's, and there are other needs to be addressed right now. As mentioned above. CB, Safety, ILB, and WR. I would pick the best player at those four positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I dont want to think much about the offseason yet, but where would you put another passrusher. The Jets have 40+ million locked up in Calvin Pace. They have 40+ million locked up in Vernon Gholston. They still have something like 17 million locked up in Bryan Thomas. You dont get a pass rush out of the DEs or NT in this defense. Upgrading Kenyon Coleman might open more lanes, but even he is on a big deal. Where would you store another pass rusher on the team and how could you justify spending more money on these positions? You draft pass rushers until you find ones that can get to the QB. We currently have zero of them. The money is irrelevant- its about winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanBird Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I agree We have three young QB's on the roster, well Ainge in on IR, and roids, but still the Jets need to look at these kids to see if they have anything. This doesn't particularly seem to be a very good draft for QB's, and there are other needs to be addressed right now. As mentioned above. CB, Safety, ILB, and WR. I would pick the best player at those four positions. Agreed. Though there are alot putting up big numbers this year, there isn't a real NFL caliber QB that's going to be coming out in the upcoming draft. A couple have the potential but I don't see any Matt Ryan's out there. I think that we should definitely go out and get a top CB starting opposite Revis. That should be our number one priority. At WR, ILB, DE, and QB we have guys that either haven't proven anything yet or are doing a decent job. At CB we have Ty Law, c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I want to change my answer... #1 Coach #2 WR #3 CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You'd be surprised how many QB's drafted in the first round turn out to be duds...I'm still holding out for Brett Ratliff. A high 1st rounder (which we probably won't have) will have higher odds of succeeding than Brett Ratliff will. Not saying Ratliff won't, but the odds are not in his favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 A high 1st rounder (which we probably won't have) will have higher odds of succeeding than Brett Ratliff will. Not saying Ratliff won't, but the odds are not in his favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Give me Terry Cody DT from bama Stick him next to jenkins and go back to 4-3 i have seen enuff of mangini's pussified 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Give me Terry Coady DT from bama Stick him next to jenkins and go back to 4-3 i have seen enuff of mangini's pussified 3-4 If you're going to do that we are going to need to find a new MLB and OLB and cut ties with some veterans. I'd say the 43 with the Jets in 2009 would look like this: DE - Shaun Ellis DT - Kris Jenkins DT - ??? DE - Calvin Pace OLB - ??? MLB - ??? OLB - ??? CB - Darrelle Revis FS - Kerry Rhodes SS - ??? CB - ??? You'd have Vernon Gholston and Bryan Thomas. One would have to go, of course it would be Thomas, unless of course you want to release Shaun Ellis. I guess you could release both Thomas & Ellis and just start Gholston, if you'd like. Kenyon Coleman can stay in as a backup DT and DE, but I don't like the idea of him starting in the 43. David Harris was an OLB at Michigan in the 43, so does he return to the outside? If so, who plays MLB? Eric Barton is a FA, if he's resigned he can play OLB. Still no MLB. Not to mention Calvin Pace won't be half as good in the 43 as he is in the 34. Are we comfortable with Elam & Lowery or Smith & Lowery? With the 31st ranked pass defense, I'm not. We are stuck with the 34 unless we want a couple of back to back 4-12 seasons until we can reload. Jets can't go on a spending spree this offseason like they did last. I'd be surprised if we could sign more than 1 big name player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 If you're going to do that we are going to need to find a new MLB and OLB and cut ties with some veterans. I'd say the 43 with the Jets in 2009 would look like this: DE - Shaun Ellis DT - Kris Jenkins DT - ??? DE - Calvin Pace OLB - ??? MLB - ??? OLB - ??? CB - Darrelle Revis FS - Kerry Rhodes SS - ??? CB - ??? You'd have Vernon Gholston and Bryan Thomas. One would have to go, of course it would be Thomas, unless of course you want to release Shaun Ellis. I guess you could release both Thomas & Ellis and just start Gholston, if you'd like. Kenyon Coleman can stay in as a backup DT and DE, but I don't like the idea of him starting in the 43. David Harris was an OLB at Michigan in the 43, so does he return to the outside? If so, who plays MLB? Eric Barton is a FA, if he's resigned he can play OLB. Still no MLB. Not to mention Calvin Pace won't be half as good in the 43 as he is in the 34. Are we comfortable with Elam & Lowery or Smith & Lowery? With the 31st ranked pass defense, I'm not. We are stuck with the 34 unless we want a couple of back to back 4-12 seasons until we can reload. Jets can't go on a spending spree this offseason like they did last. I'd be surprised if we could sign more than 1 big name player. Barton is useless in either system harris should be able to play MLB why not gholston at DE and pace at 1 OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Barton is useless in either system harris should be able to play MLB why not gholston at DE and pace at 1 OLB Pace at OLB in the 34? No thanks. Maybe that could work. and Barton has played better than anyone at ILB this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Pace at OLB in the 34? No thanks. Maybe that could work. and Barton has played better than anyone at ILB this season. pace an OLB in 4-3 why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Top priority. Cotchery is a VERY good receiver. As for Coles, he's had a rough time of it but I still think he will be a good receiver for awhile. I admit though we do need a #1: a real burner or a big guy at WR. I'm still wondering about how Clowney will turn out, good speed but obviously no reason to think he will be a #1 yet. As for Stuckey, he is a good little possession receiver. I don't think he'll ever be as good as Coles was, but he can fill his spot adequately one day. So our possession tandem soon will be Cotchery and Stuckey, and either Clowney will turn into a burner or we will need to get a #1 here somehow else. None of our receivers are a threat to anyone. We have a bunch of possession receivers. We need someone who can stretch the field from the X and Y spot. We lack a game changing receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 None of our receivers are a threat to anyone. We have a bunch of possession receivers. We need someone who can stretch the field from the X and Y spot. We lack a game changing receiver. Julio down by the schoolyard in 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 1. Best secondary player on the board 2. DE 3. WR 4. NT Safety and #2 CB are the only real glaring weaknesses so that obviously has to be addressed first unless someone ridiculous falls. We're some what old and mediocre at DE so adding some youth and talent there would be a good thing. We specifically need a #1 WR which we probably won't find in the later rounds so this might not be the draft to do it in. I'd really like them to look at a NT in round 3, maybe 2 if someone fell. There's not much after Jenkins and we can't have such a huge dropoff everytime he's out of the game. Since its the most important defensive position for us you can never have to many good NTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 1. Cornerback 2. #1 Wide Receiver 3. Safety I would also put QB up there as well. You'll need Favre's eventual replacement and besides if one of the guys on your roster does in fact pan out at least you'll know they tried their best for competition too IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 early i think they go CB. If there is a bigger need than CB on this team i don't know what it is. Personally I hope they get Jeremy Maclin, Missouri. they need a gamebreaking Wr. Coles looks to be just about done. JMO this team won't draft a S very early, they don't value the position that highly... and none of the best S are that good compared to Eric Berry who comes out after next year. ILB is a possibility but it has to be the right guy... maybe a Maulaluga or Curry but they aren't just gonna take any ILB just to do it. with 3 possible future QBs on the roster they won't take a QB this draft. Also I believe Favre comes back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 You always draft the best player available regardless of position. With that said, WR and CB must be priorities this coming offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLguerriero1 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 usc saftey first round.. lets be honest we'll prolly have a middle first rounder ohklahoma state wr second round then from there whoevers there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 How many years are we going to waste a pick on a QB? Lets see what is available at our pick... But, CB or WR would be good. If like, Colt McCoy came out (and he isn't), then I'd pick him if available. You can never go wrong picking (good) linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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