gangreenman Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 maybe they are gonna try to get both Ray and Bart Not likely. What would they do with Harris? Honestly, we may be looking too far into this. Rex and Tannenbaum obviously have a plan in place here... Lets see how this whole thing actually shakes out before we start to pass judgement. Because, honestly, who knows what these two have up their sleeves??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Albert Haynesworth please. Right, we should pay Albert Haynesworth 16 million dollars a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I hope it's Haynesworth. If not then two or three of Greer, Leonhard, Scott, Canty...maybe take a flier on Shaun Cody if no one else does...maybe not....but yea...Gabe Watson if we want to spend the pick...Stacy Andrews maybe...Elton Brown...Evan Mathis...Losman...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If even a dime of this money is for Matt Cassell, I'm going to vom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ok wtf WHY? WHY the hell would they release him? Who are we supposed to plug in there? Jason Kendall take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'd love Haynesworth. Having him and Jenkins next to each other would be unfair to other teams. They'd be so dominant it's unbelievable.Doubt it will happen though. Scott looks like the guy at this point. He's an elite defensive player who's good at everything. Sign that beast already! Can you imagine? Teams would never be able to run up the middle. QB sneak success ratios would be dismal. FG/XTP blocks! Right, we should pay Albert Haynesworth 16 million dollars a year. ABSOLUTELY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 it was just an observation. do you have any better ideas? besides, what's wrong with henderson? if there was a larry fitzgerald available i'd obviously bring him up. but since there's not. henderson averages over 20 yd/r for his career. he's young and terribly fast, got good hands. he would actually compliment our current guys well. Have you ever seen him play? He has just about the worst hands in the league. He can't catch the F'ing ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If even a dime of this money is for Matt Cassell, I'm going to vom. Oh GOD, I never thought of that. Got an extra vomit bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ok wtf WHY? WHY the hell would they release him? Who are we supposed to plug in there? Jason Kendall take 2 Nah. Jason Kendall Sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Fixed. But in regards to all the cuts, the Jets better snag a premiere free agent they covet because the Moore cut will be terrible and without a legitimate reason. Worst role EVER. It's actually refreshing to speak normally. For me we need to INVEST this money, that means long term. I don't want a short term "big name" on our roster like we did with Favre. If it's Cassell I'll cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 maybe one of those signings is going to be a name i mentioned yesterday, Jason Brown a C/OG, or a guy the Jets were infatuated with last year, Stacey Andrews, an OG/OT from Cinci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ok wtf WHY? WHY the hell would they release him? Who are we supposed to plug in there? Jason Kendall take 2 Who the **** is Jason Kendall? BTW, Albert Haynsworth in the 34? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Who the **** is Jason Kendall? BTW, Albert Haynsworth in the 34? Seriously? Why not Albert playing a 5 technique end??? At 6'6" 320 he has the perfect size for a 34 DE, he has the ability to not only consistently take on double teams, but continue to get penetration and collapse the pocket in the process. Since Ryan runs a hybrid defense, he could slide inside when running a 43 and back outside in the 34. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. You have two guys on your defensive line who require constant double teams, which if not given that attention will wreak havoc. If they are doubled than that frees up our OLBs. I would like to hear the counter-argument for getting him. I'm not saying it's going to happen or if we would shell out 12 a year or whatever, but tell me why he doesn't fit?? When discussing his physical skill set, tell me why it'd be bad for him to play the 5 technique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'm prayin for Bart Scott, Chris Canty and some one like gabe watson or bryant mcfaddden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Why not Albert playing a 5 technique end??? At 6'6" 320 he has the perfect size for a 34 DE, he has the ability to not only consistently take on double teams, but continue to get penetration and collapse the pocket in the process. Since Ryan runs a hybrid defense, he could slide inside when running a 43 and back outside in the 34. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. You have two guys on your defensive line who require constant double teams, which if not given that attention will wreak havoc. If they are doubled than that frees up our OLBs. I would like to hear the counter-argument for getting him. I'm not saying it's going to happen or if we would shell out 12 a year or whatever, but tell me why he doesn't fit?? When discussing his physical skill set, tell me why it'd be bad for him to play the 5 technique? Exactly! He would also be able to spell Jenkins at NT from time to time. Haynesworth is one of those system be damned type of players. It does not matter; he will dominate his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ray Lewis & Albert Haynesworth. Gahahahahahahahahhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Exactly! He would also be able to spell Jenkins at NT from time to time. Haynesworth is one of those system be damned type of players. It does not matter; he will dominate his position. As Jenkins turned out to be. Can you imagine having both of them? Probably will not happen, but to think it doesn't make sense because Haynesworth is a 4-3 DT is short sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 As Jenkins turned out to be. Can you imagine having both of them? Probably will not happen, but to think it doesn't make sense because Haynesworth is a 4-3 DT is short sighted. Agreed. It's not a likely scenario, but how people can dismiss Haynesworth based on not fitting a system I disagree with. Honestly, you aren't much of a defensive coach if you can't find a way to use Haynesworth and Jenkins if they were at your disposal. Rex Ryan's system isn't controling gaps, it's shooting gaps and collapsing the pocket with the blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Ray Lewis & Albert Haynesworth. Gahahahahahahahahhahaha Selling PSL's would be easier with those names. Unfortunately the defense would suck just as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Unfortunately the defense would suck just as much. Do you feel the need for negative attention? That comment is just delusional. How would any defense suck worse by adding two of the best defensive players in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Do you feel the need for negative attention? That comment is just delusional. How would any defense suck worse by adding two of the best defensive players in the NFL? Albert Haynsworth is out of place in the 34, he would be average, and Ray Lewis is still good, better than Eric Barton yes, but he isn't a game changer anymore. His leadership skills are in Baltimore and Baltimore alone. Once he comes here and misses three tackles a game you'll all be crying in your breast milk. Where players like Thomas, Scott, Johnson & Suggs used to be made better by Lewis' prescense, its now the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Albert Haynsworth is out of place in the 34, he would be average, and Ray Lewis is still good, better than Eric Barton yes, but he isn't a game changer anymore. His leadership skills are in Baltimore and Baltimore alone. Once he comes here and misses three tackles a game you'll all be crying in your breast milk. Where players like Thomas, Scott, Johnson & Suggs used to be made better by Lewis' prescense, its now the other way around. How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFuture Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 because he asked albert and albert said nah dawg. albert going to the falcons, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Albert Haynsworth is out of place in the 34, he would be average, and Ray Lewis is still good, better than Eric Barton yes, but he isn't a game changer anymore. His leadership skills are in Baltimore and Baltimore alone. Once he comes here and misses three tackles a game you'll all be crying in your breast milk. Where players like Thomas, Scott, Johnson & Suggs used to be made better by Lewis' prescense, its now the other way around. Crying in my breast milk? Haynesworth average? You still have not validated you claim that the D would be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Face: They think Haynsworth can play in the 34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Face: They think Haynsworth can play in the 34? You dont know who that is? You just call him "face"? Last year nobody thought Jenkins was a 3-4 DL... what better evidence do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 You dont know who that is? You just call him "face"? Last year nobody thought Jenkins was a 3-4 DL... what better evidence do you need? I am not going to get into a political war here, so I'm not going to start naming morons. Jenkins and Haynsworth are two different players. And for one other note, Albert is best at the 43 while Jenkins NEEDED a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I am not going to get into a political war here, so I'm not going to start naming morons. Jenkins and Haynsworth are two different players. And for one other note, Albert is best at the 43 while Jenkins NEEDED a switch. Albert played for a contract and needs a switch as well. Your right about them being different players... Haynesworth would make a great 3-4 DE... Jenkins is better in the middle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Agreed. It's not a likely scenario, but how people can dismiss Haynesworth based on not fitting a system I disagree with. Honestly, you aren't much of a defensive coach if you can't find a way to use Haynesworth and Jenkins if they were at your disposal. Rex Ryan's system isn't controling gaps, it's shooting gaps and collapsing the pocket with the blitz. Exactly. Just because a team plays a 3-4 does not automatically mean they play a traditional two gap. I don't want to frighten people who wanted Ryan over Spags strictly because the Jets already ran a 3-4, but the adjustment they will have to make from Mangini's 3-4 to Ryan's will be significant. But it will be for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Albert played for a contract and needs a switch as well. Your right about them being different players... Haynesworth would make a great 3-4 DE... Jenkins is better in the middle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguini 15 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 He'd be awesome to have I can't doubt it. I don't see him wanting to come to a 3-4 team, but even if he did, he'd probably blow our entire budget. Haynesworth and Jenkins would be nasty. But Haynesworth is supposed to get a 6 year 100 mil contract this year. Jenkins would most likely want a pay raise and it would just be crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Haynesworth and Jenkins would be nasty. But Haynesworth is supposed to get a 6 year 100 mil contract this year. Jenkins would most likely want a pay raise and it would just be crazy. There's always a voice of reason to spoil the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman_67 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Rex Grossman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Albert played for a contract and needs a switch as well. Your right about them being different players... Haynesworth would make a great 3-4 DE... Jenkins is better in the middle... +11110302830812341802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I remember when we played the Titans last season and Haynesworth was lined up at DE and he completly destroyed Feguson and caused a fumble I believe? Don't remember. But Haynesworth is clearly going to make more money than we have so I'll have to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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