uart Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091207&content_id=7771584&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb INDIANAPOLIS -- The Yankees, Tigers and D-backs discussed late Monday what would be a blockbuster three-team deal involving outfielder Curtis Granderson and right-hander's Max Scherzer and Edwin Jackson, according to a FOXsports.com report. While it appeared the negotiations reached an impasse, there were indications that the talks were ongoing and could resume Tuesday. Tigers president/general manager Dave Dombrowski declined to comment on the report specifically and instead said, "There's all sorts of rumors, but don't believe everything you read." The Tigers baseball operations staff met far later into the night than is their usual during the Winter Meetings. If the deal were to go through, according to the report, the Yankees would get Granderson from the Tigers and a pair of prospects from the D-backs. The Tigers, meanwhile, would receive Scherzer from the D-backs along with outfielder Austin Jackson and left-handed pitchers Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yankees. The D-backs would get Jackson from the Tigers and right-hander Ian Kennedy from the Yankees. The Yankees have been linked to Granderson for some time now and he would give them an everyday center fielder. The Yankees won the World Series with a mix-and-match sequence of Melky Cabrera and Brett Gardner chasing down balls in center, so defense is not the primary concern as the club attempts to defend its title. But with left fielder Johnny Damon and designated hitter Hideki Matsui both free agents, New York will somehow look to replace the lost offense if both stars leave, which might make an option like acquiring Granderson more attractive. The Tigers would get a former first-round Draft pick in Scherzer, who will cost less money than Jackson and would be under club control for another five seasons as opposed to Jackson, who will become a free agent following 2011. In addition, the Tigers are known to covet the 22-year-old Austin Jackson, who they watched hit .300 with 24 stolen bases while primarily playing center for the Yankees' Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre club in 2009. Detroit would also bolster its pitching depth with the pair of young left-handers. The D-backs are looking to fill the No. 4 spot in the rotation, and despite losing Scherzer would do so by getting both Edwin Jackson and Kennedy in return. The pair would slot in behind Brandon Webb and Dan Haren in the rotation. The deal would not increase the D-backs' payroll much and the club could use more of the $10 million it has left to spend this offseason improving an offense that has struggled the past several seasons rather than having to spend it on signing a free-agent pitcher. Kennedy missed much of last season after having surgery to take care of an aneurysm under his right armpit May 12. He pitched in four Minor League games for Scranton last year and made one appearance for the Yankees and tossed a scoreless inning. The D-backs are reportedly pushing for the deal and it's not known which of the other two teams is balking. While not giving any indication that anything was close on the trade front, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman did provide a window into the organization's thinking when he revealed aspects of a rumored but dead trade from last July. In that potential deal, the Yankees had been seeking starting-pitching help and were interested in then-Mariners lefty Jarrod Washburn. But talks crumbled when Seattle insisted upon receiving Jackson, who is regarded as a five-tool prospect. The Tigers came into the Winter Meetings saying they will not make a deal simply to clear payroll, and they continue to suggest that. They continue to look for young talent that can help them now and in the future, and Dombrowski insists that they will not give up on 2010 as they look toward the future. However, while the Tigers don't discuss it, there's also a realization that the economy in Michigan is forcing the team to adjust, even as Detroit awaits expiring contracts that could take more than $50 million off the payroll for 2011. Even if the Tigers trade Jackson and Granderson, their 2010 payroll will sit well above $100 million. "I don't know if we're close to a trade or not," Dombrowski said, not referring specifically to the rumored blockbuster. "I don't really know that. Somebody might call us up and say, 'You've got a deal.' And I'm not just talking about [Jackson] specifically; I'm talking about any player or a few players we're talking about. "But we have had a lot of conversations. I would also not be shocked if I sat here [later in the week] and told you that nothing did happen." Steve Gilbert, Jason Beck and Bryan Hoch are reporters for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Bad deal for Arizona IMO. Scherzer has much better peripherals than Jackson (similar BB and HR rates, but a much better K/9), just less Major League experience. Unless they love Ian Kennedy, this deal makes little sense for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Love this deal for the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'd hate to lose Austin Jackson, but trading those pitchers doesn't bother me a bit. Granderson would be a great addition, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'd hate to lose Austin Jackson, but trading those pitchers doesn't bother me a bit. Granderson would be a great addition, for sure. Wonder if the Yanks have self-scouted Jackson to the point that they don't see him as better than Granderson. No problem giving up Kennedy who has simply never done it consistently. Coke is a servicable lefty but had some very rough postseason innings. Neither should be an impediment to Granderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't like this deal, but I should. I can't justify getting rid of Austin for a guy who can't hit lefties. But then again, I've been back and forth all day on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Grandersons is a good player but why expend prospects for him when we should be going after a big pitcher. hell, why not Sherzer instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 According to TD, Austin Jackson is all hype and not much production so far in the minors. And for the most part I believe what TD has to say about prospects. So I guess this would make sense to us, but I've been pulling for AJax for a couple of years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Apparently this deal is done. Yankees give up Ian Kennedy, Coke and AJax for Granderson. Pending physicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Ugh. I liked Coke.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yep done deal per 1050. HMMM, don't know how I feel about this. Guess we'll find out in the spring. Did I mention I was pretty damn close to ordering a Austin Jackson T-shirt jersey last year. I wanted to be the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yep done deal per 1050. HMMM, don't know how I feel about this. Guess we'll find out in the spring. Did I mention I was pretty damn close to ordering a Austin Jackson T-shirt jersey last year. I wanted to be the first one. Can't say I love it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 As long as we don't trade Montero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yep done deal per 1050. HMMM, don't know how I feel about this. Guess we'll find out in the spring. Did I mention I was pretty damn close to ordering a Austin Jackson T-shirt jersey last year. I wanted to be the first one. We'll all have a special place in our hearts for Austin. He represented Oppenheimer's first pick, and a new era in Yankee baseball. It's real sad to see him go- but it means there are a lot more in the pipeline (Slade) coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Can't say I love it..... Well the way Don La Greca is putting it is that we're getting what Austin Jackson may or may not become right now in Granderson. There's no guarantee that Jackson pans out, and very little that he is any better than Granderson. I could care less about Ian Kennedy, and I guess we have to hope Marte plays like he did in the post season and scoop up another lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Well the way Don La Greca is putting it is that we're getting what Austin Jackson may or may not become right now in Granderson. There's no guarantee that Jackson pans out, and very little that he is any better than Granderson. I could care less about Ian Kennedy, and I guess we have to hope Marte plays like he did in the post season and scoop up another lefty. Yea and I'm not so bummed about the A-Jax/Kennedy part of the deal. I liked Coke in our pen and loved the way our bullpen played last year. Marte did great during the postseason but we still need another RELIABLE lefty arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Not a big fan of giving up Coke, but this is a trade the Yankees had to make. Granderson is much better than the Melky/Gardner combo. I'm just wondering what this means for Damon? If Damon goes does Granderson bat second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Since the Tigers are cutting payroll, I wonder if the Red Sox try to make a move for Cabrera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Great deal for the Yankees. Melky had no business starting on a team that stacked. 0WhuikFY1Pg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 So, do we keep Melky/ gardner or try to move one of them for something? Maybe a reliever. I say dump Melky and keep Gardner. I like the kid. If he can bring his average up a bit I think he could be a good player to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Great deal for the Yankees. Melky had no business starting on a team that stacked. Melky still might start if they dont resign Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I almost passed out when I saw Melky's name mentioned. He's one of my fav Yankees. He better stay put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Who are the Yankees going to platoon with Granderson against lefties? He seems built to hti a lot of homers in Yankee stadium, but his OPS has gone down every single year and he strikes out quite a bit. Does he take over leadoff duties? He doesn't have a great OBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Melky still might start if they dont resign Damon He'll start 30-50% of the games in LF even if they do re-sign Damon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I almost passed out when I saw Melky's name mentioned. He's one of my fav Yankees. He better stay put He's as good as gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Don't forget the Yanks have Nady rehabbing...he could be the answer for lefties. Maybe Kevin Long can work with Granderson. Knowing the Yanks, they have a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I compare this trade to that made years ago by the Yanks for Paul O'Neil Lefty bat that had difficulty against lefties How'd that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Don't forget the Yanks have Nady rehabbing...he could be the answer for lefties. Maybe Kevin Long can work with Granderson. Knowing the Yanks, they have a plan. Nady is a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Melky still might start if they dont resign Damon or sign a lfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Who are the Yankees going to platoon with Granderson against lefties? He seems built to hti a lot of homers in Yankee stadium, but his OPS has gone down every single year and he strikes out quite a bit. Does he take over leadoff duties? He doesn't have a great OBP. No, Granderson will not lead off. He'll hit in the bottom third of the order on Opening Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 It's official. Kennedy passed his physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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