Matt39 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 #yankees, #braves deal will send vazquez, boone logan to ny for melky, lhp mike dunn and a prospect. si.com story up soon back to ny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 YYYYYYYYYYYYYYUCK i hate vazquez. i hope he fails his physical, the fuggin POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Welcome to Atlanta Melk man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 stupidest deal ever.. Vasquez cant pitch in the AL and he can barely pitch in the NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 stupidest deal ever.. Vasquez cant pitch in the AL and he can barely pitch in the NL. Barely pitch in the NL? He finished 4th in Cy Young voting last year. He had a tremendous year. I know fans will never forget Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS; it's hard to forget. But trading a 4th OF and a LOOGY for one of the best pitchers in the NL is a steal anyway you look at it. It gives the Yankees tremendous depth in the rotation, while also adding to the depth in the bullpen in moving one of Joba and Hughes back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 stupidest deal ever.. Vasquez cant pitch in the AL and he can barely pitch in the NL. Nick Johnson was a lot dumber than this. On paper, this looks like a steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I don't understand how people don't think much of Melky The guy was clutch Makes us have to make a move for an OF'er Welcome back Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I don't understand how people don't think much of Melky The guy was clutch Makes us have to make a move for an OF'er Welcome back Johnny It's not that I don't think much of him. I really like him as a 4th OF. He's a very good fourth OF, with a bit of pop and good defense at all 3 positions. He's the kind of guy you like to have on your bench. But when you have the chance to move him as the centerpiece of your deal for one of the best pitchers in the NL last year, you don't think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Ughhhhhh Our 3 most clutch hitters, Damon, Matsui, and Melky gone UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Ughhhhhh Our 3 most clutch hitters, Damon, Matsui, and Melky gone UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WOW. Boldest of bold statements there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 If trading the Melkman gets us Johnny back, then I'm okay with it Hard to believe the Yanksa ae going with Gardener and Hoffman in LF Jermaine Dye anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Jason Bay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Vasquez had a good year with Atlanta- back in the American League I would have my doubts about a repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Barely pitch in the NL? He finished 4th in Cy Young voting last year. He had a tremendous year. I know fans will never forget Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS; it's hard to forget. But trading a 4th OF and a LOOGY for one of the best pitchers in the NL is a steal anyway you look at it. It gives the Yankees tremendous depth in the rotation, while also adding to the depth in the bullpen in moving one of Joba and Hughes back there. he will have a 5 era next year with yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 he will have a 5 era next year with yankees With 200 innings and 200K;s Along with 15 wins Not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I don't understand how people don't think much of Melky The guy was clutch Makes us have to make a move for an OF'er Welcome back Johnny Yup. Damon signs for 2 years at reasonable cash in 3....2.....1..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Now they're saying mark DeRosa I could live with that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Vazquez had some good years with the ChiSox and Melkey is very overrated. We'll all see how bad he is without the Yankee support around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Yankees made out GREAT with this deal. Melky is an average player at best. Vazquez is an elite [or close to it] pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Love this trade, especially if they bring back Damon. Javy will be a number four in the rotation and a much better number 4 than either Joba or Hughes would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 he will have a 5 era next year with yankees Oh, blind, baseless statements without anything to back them up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Almost 10 consecutive years of 200+ innings; you guys are nuts if you don't like this deal. Melky sucks. I'd bet the reason that some of you think he's good is because pitchers would go after him him knowing that he was by far the weakest bat in your lineup. I'd bet nobody in the majors got pitches to hit like he did this last year. Other than pitchers of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Oh, blind, baseless statements without anything to back them up.... http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vazquja01.shtml look at the stats he isnt that great, if yankees didnt baby Joba he would have better stats. The only good thing about him is he is durably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Ughhhhhh Our 3 most clutch hitters, Damon, Matsui, and Melky gone UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ARod and Jeter were both pretty clutch last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I always liked Javy. His stuff is really good, the results haven't been as good for him as I thought they would be. Two thoughts: 1. The Yankees 4th starter is now pretty much a lock to surpass 200 innings. That is huge. 2. I remember the WS game. Brown got bombed and bailed. Javy sat on the bench with his teammates. Showed me a lot of heart even though the pitching line wasn't great. This time around so much less is being asked of him. Great move. Melky is a nice 4th outfielder, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I always liked Javy. His stuff is really good, the results haven't been as good for him as I thought they would be. Two thoughts: 1. The Yankees 4th starter is now pretty much a lock to surpass 200 innings. That is huge. 2. I remember the WS game. Brown got bombed and bailed. Javy sat on the bench with his teammates. Showed me a lot of heart even though the pitching line wasn't great. This time around so much less is being asked of him. Great move. Melky is a nice 4th outfielder, nothing more. I always did too. Loved him with the Expos and thought he was going to be special. Then he came to the AL East. Had a solid 1st half then posted an ERA of about 11 billion in the second half before his epic melt down in the post season. Hate this move. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I think this is a bad move for the yanks, but I can see why they did it. They needed another arm. Problem is, Vazquez showed he has a hard time pitching in NY. And if you get Damon back? Well you better hope his shoulder(s) stay intact as that guy has had more pricks in him than Tiger's hos (ba-doom-tish!) So from a Sox point of view, I say welcome back Javier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 He had like a career year last year- the odds of repeating that are slim IMO- but with Yankee lineup he does not need to be as good. Melky is just average player no great loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 ARod and Jeter were both pretty clutch last year. agreed and this is a good move - Melky hit his ceiling in NY in my eyes he can be a fine player in the NL though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Melky Cabrera had the fifth-lowest OPS of any AL outfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Melky Cabrera had the fifth-lowest OPS of any AL outfielder. somebody on here, i forget who, tried to tell me Melky was a 20 HR hitter lol he wanted to do a sig bet but i'm not risking that - but Melky only ended up with what, 13 HR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I think this is a bad move for the yanks, but I can see why they did it. They needed another arm. Problem is, Vazquez showed he has a hard time pitching in NY. And if you get Damon back? Well you better hope his shoulder(s) stay intact as that guy has had more pricks in him than Tiger's hos (ba-doom-tish!) So from a Sox point of view, I say welcome back Javier! He is their 4th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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