Jump to content

Daily News Myers says let fans decide on Revis.


visajets

Recommended Posts

not only is this douche so stupid, he asked ryan how the jets could give him an extension and not afford revis <facepalm> but now he rips off ryan and tries to be cute with a "decide it in front of the fans" idea

oy

I'd rather let jason decide

Link to comment
Share on other sites

not only is this douche so stupid, he asked ryan how the jets could give him an extension and not afford revis <facepalm>

it was a decent question. they didn't really have to resign Rex, Tanny and Westy all at once while the teams best player gets nothing. It was kinda questionable timing.

Im a real believer in the talent on the field over the coaching staff. You can have Vince Lombardi and still lose a ton of games cause not having enough players.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

it was a decent question. they didn't really have to resign Rex, Tanny and Westy all at once while the teams best player gets nothing. It was kinda questionable timing.

Im a real believer in the talent on the field over the coaching staff. You can have Vince Lombardi and still lose a ton of games cause not having enough players.

1) the coaches don't count towards the cap, so it was a dumb question

2) she turned down $120 million. hardly nothing

3) the whole organization has to come to a halt because she has her panties in a wad ?

who said anything about coaches being more important than players ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

it was a decent question. they didn't really have to resign Rex, Tanny and Westy all at once while the teams best player gets nothing. It was kinda questionable timing.

Im a real believer in the talent on the field over the coaching staff. You can have Vince Lombardi and still lose a ton of games cause not having enough players.

Actually, it was a MORONIC question.

Coaches do not have a salary cap, do not have a 30% rule, and do not have all the other silly rules the CBA introduces in the uncapped year like players do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

it was a decent question. they didn't really have to resign Rex, Tanny and Westy all at once while the teams best player gets nothing. It was kinda questionable timing.

Im a real believer in the talent on the field over the coaching staff. You can have Vince Lombardi and still lose a ton of games cause not having enough players.

The reverse order of finish drafting system and the salary cap promote parity in player talent. The two biggest parity busters are player evaluation and coaching. Putting money into coaching is a smart choice.

Revis didn't get nothing. You know that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually, it was a MORONIC question.

Coaches do not have a salary cap, do not have a 30% rule, and do not have all the other silly rules the CBA introduces in the uncapped year like players do.

of course the rules.

none of those guys were up for a contract. Maybe Westy was and he deserves it. So does Rex and he got extended after 1 season? So does Revis. I'm pro paying people who deserve it.

But to use the parlance of the times, why didn't Tanny play out his existing deal?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

of course the rules.

none of those guys were up for a contract. Maybe Westy was and he deserves it. So does Rex and he got extended after 1 season? So does Revis. I'm pro paying people who deserve it.

But to use the parlance of the times, why didn't Tanny play out his existing deal?

Rex had years added to the end of his contract. Andre Johnson had years added to the end of his contract. This is the normal way of doing things. Revis wants a pay raise without extra years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

of course the rules.

none of those guys were up for a contract. Maybe Westy was and he deserves it. So does Rex and he got extended after 1 season? So does Revis. I'm pro paying people who deserve it.

But to use the parlance of the times, why didn't Tanny play out his existing deal?

Here is the point you keep missing or just refuse to listen to.

The players and the coaches do not play under the same set of rules.

You can pay your coach whatever it is you'd like. You can pay your GM whatever it is you like, and to reenforce the authority of both, they should never become lame ducks.

Players, on the other hand, are subject to the rules of the CBA. The CBA does not allow more than a 30% raise, and does not allow us to guarantee money for both skill and injury. The players, unlike the coaches, are not going to either be locked out or strike in 2011.

It's apples and oranges man. To try to compare the 2 makes absolutely no sense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here is the point you keep missing or just refuse to listen to.

The players and the coaches do not play under the same set of rules.

You can pay your coach whatever it is you'd like. You can pay your GM whatever it is you like, and to reenforce the authority of both, they should never become lame ducks.

Players, on the other hand, are subject to the rules of the CBA. The CBA does not allow more than a 30% raise, and does not allow us to guarantee money for both skill and injury. The players, unlike the coaches, are not going to either be locked out or strike in 2011.

It's apples and oranges man. To try to compare the 2 makes absolutely no sense.

Plus both Tanny and Rex were working on really low "try out" salaries. If you had to compare the two, they were basically undrafted Free Agents that had (in the case of Tanny) several Pro Bowl years or were in the running for rookie of the year. That's a huge difference between Revis, who got a higher contract than his draft slot, much higher. Sanchez isn't likely to hold out, because he got a good rookie deal. But a guy like Chris Johnson obviously was being underpaid, so the Titans did the right thing. Revis is fare closer to the Sanchez contract than the CJ one.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually, it was a MORONIC question.

Coaches do not have a salary cap, do not have a 30% rule, and do not have all the other silly rules the CBA introduces in the uncapped year like players do.

Rex and Tannenbaum got extensions while they had multiple years left on their deals and Tannenbaum has been pointing to the years left on the Revis' deal as the reason he doesn't deserve his extension. Regardless of the particulars, it smacks of hypocrisy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Rex and Tannenbaum got extensions while they had multiple years left on their deals and Tannenbaum has been pointing to the years left on the Revis' deal as the reason he doesn't deserve his extension. Regardless of the particulars, it smacks of hypocrisy.

your confusing tanny with posters here :lol:

all tanny has said is it's a "total compensation" issue

you act like he won't even come to the table when he's made a minimum of 4 offers, including the 10 year deal, probably double what rex and tanny got in terms of extra years COMBINED

the point here is you can't compare a coach's deal to a players deal, the rules are different

do you really think if there were no consequences to giving revis the money except the actual dollars we'd be in a hold out right now ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Rex and Tannenbaum got extensions while they had multiple years left on their deals and Tannenbaum has been pointing to the years left on the Revis' deal as the reason he doesn't deserve his extension. Regardless of the particulars, it smacks of hypocrisy.

The Jets don't have to deal with setting a precedent that causes 5 starting head coaches to demand a new contract or they're sitting out. How often does a HC sit out anyway, with the purpose being the acquisition of a new contract or extension from his current team? I can't think of one, yet it happens with players all the time. If a coach sits out, he is in breach of contract. He gets nothing, and he can't sign with another team. He didn't get a signing bonus so the team only pays for the years he worked for the team, unlike players. There is no risk of injury that hampers the team for years on end. If a coach sucks and gets fired, an owner can still spend as much as he wants on the replacement HC. With a player, you cannot. That signing bonus money still has to come off the cap. Plus every high-priced player you sign is one less high-priced player you can fit under the salary cap with him. Pay a HC huge money and you can still pay a coordinator or new HC as much as an owner wants, even while paying a departed HC's guaranteed contract.

Due to the salary cap, injury risk, the risk of future holdouts while still under contract, and more -- they're just totally different situations, even if you can find some similarity in one aspect.

In a nutshell, other than Woody Johnson's checking out, there is no risk to the success of the franchise in extending Tannenbaum or Ryan. This risk does exist in extending Revis or any player.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Jets don't have to deal with setting a precedent that causes 5 starting head coaches to demand a new contract or they're sitting out. How often does a HC sit out anyway, with the purpose being the acquisition of a new contract or extension from his current team? I can't think of one, yet it happens with players all the time. If a coach sits out, he is in breach of contract. He gets nothing, and he can't sign with another team. He didn't get a signing bonus so the team only pays for the years he worked for the team, unlike players. There is no risk of injury that hampers the team for years on end. If a coach sucks and gets fired, an owner can still spend as much as he wants on the replacement HC. With a player, you cannot. That signing bonus money still has to come off the cap. Plus every high-priced player you sign is one less high-priced player you can fit under the salary cap with him. Pay a HC huge money and you can still pay a coordinator or new HC as much as an owner wants, even while paying a departed HC's guaranteed contract.

Due to the salary cap, injury risk, the risk of future holdouts while still under contract, and more -- they're just totally different situations, even if you can find some similarity in one aspect.

In a nutshell, other than Woody Johnson's checking out, there is no risk to the success of the franchise in extending Tannenbaum or Ryan. This risk does exist in extending Revis or any player.

Bingo!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Jets don't have to deal with setting a precedent that causes 5 starting head coaches to demand a new contract or they're sitting out. How often does a HC sit out anyway, with the purpose being the acquisition of a new contract or extension from his current team? I can't think of one, yet it happens with players all the time. If a coach sits out, he is in breach of contract. He gets nothing, and he can't sign with another team. He didn't get a signing bonus so the team only pays for the years he worked for the team, unlike players. There is no risk of injury that hampers the team for years on end. If a coach sucks and gets fired, an owner can still spend as much as he wants on the replacement HC. With a player, you cannot. That signing bonus money still has to come off the cap. Plus every high-priced player you sign is one less high-priced player you can fit under the salary cap with him. Pay a HC huge money and you can still pay a coordinator or new HC as much as an owner wants, even while paying a departed HC's guaranteed contract.

Due to the salary cap, injury risk, the risk of future holdouts while still under contract, and more -- they're just totally different situations, even if you can find some similarity in one aspect.

In a nutshell, other than Woody Johnson's checking out, there is no risk to the success of the franchise in extending Tannenbaum or Ryan. This risk does exist in extending Revis or any player.

Totally agreed. I was just positing Myers' logic in asking the question. On an entirely superficial level, I thought it was valid.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

they didn't really have to resign Rex, Tanny and Westy all at once while the teams best player gets nothing. It was kinda questionable timing.

It was perfect timing, see what happens when you accept a reasonable deal.

Im a real believer in the talent on the field over the coaching staff. You can have Vince Lombardi and still lose a ton of games cause not having enough players.

Which is exactly why the Jets can't cave into MEvi$' unreasonable demands!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Coaches don't become crybabies over what other teams pay their staff.

Revis' demands are motivated by a massive ego and jealousy over another CB's salary elsewhere in the league.

That's real mature stuff, especially when he was overpaid early on.

What Revis really needs is a massive cup of grow the f'uck up!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...