Clementi49 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 A deep threat and a CB this offseason will be Idziks priority. Resign Mo. And look at that. 3 years. No foreseeable holes on the roster. We will be glad we have all of this money come next year. If Geno progresses like this all year and the rest of the youngsters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Somone on another board posted the overthrow to Cumberland during the Raiders game from the All 22 cam. Cumberland was running half speed. If he's sprinting its a TD. We desperately need a deep threat. Geno has the arm. There are other boards? It is strange. I can see loafing a bit if the QB is the type to just flop and not get the ball out, but Geno is able to heave it and while his pocket presence is not the best, he does have the ability to extend plays. I expect guys like Holmes to loaf, but not Cumberland, and these guys. They are supposed to be gritty lunchpail types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 There are other boards? It is strange. I can see loafing a bit if the QB is the type to just flop and not get the ball out, but Geno is able to heave it and while his pocket presence is not the best, he does have the ability to extend plays. I expect guys like Holmes to loaf, but not Cumberland, and these guys. They are supposed to be gritty lunchpail types. Not sure if it's loafing or just not getting the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Not sure if it's loafing or just not getting the offense. Ah. I think was commenting on a different post. Somebody had mentioned that guys are giving up on plays when Geno is flushed, pressured or they aren't the read. I mixed that with your comments when I responded. Not the failure to sprint on everything. Geno does a good job of not underthrowing people. Compared to other QBs is more likely to lead guys deep. Maybe that is why these guys are not still sprinting? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 A small thing perhaps but I liked that after the TOTD, Geno went out and completed next pass for a first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 After seeing the game again. I feel less depressed and encouraged for the future! Plus: Tommy B! Decker - a real WR Geno - a franchise QB in the makings. D Davis - breakout game? Powell - really good performance Kerley - reliable as always Milliner - a real Dr Jekyll / mr Hyde game. Did he get tired? I say that one is on the coaches who played him too much, and him for not saying so when he felt it. Good first half anyway. Colon - no penalties! Bad: #67 - he has ways to go Sudfeld - not bad, worse than bad play on the INT. Steven Hill bad... Milliner - second half Pryor - rookie game MM - STFU Rex Ryan - order in the class room please Mo - be a pro I recommend you to see it with fresh eyes for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 After seeing the game again. I feel less depressed and encouraged for the future! Plus: Tommy B! Decker - a real WR Geno - a franchise QB in the makings. D Davis - breakout game? Powell - really good performance Kerley - reliable as always Milliner - a real Dr Jekyll / mr Hyde game. Did he get tired? I say that one is on the coaches who played him too much, and him for not saying so when he felt it. Good first half anyway. Colon - no penalties! Bad: #67 - he has ways to go Sudfeld - not bad, worse than bad play on the INT. Steven Hill bad... Milliner - second half Pryor - rookie game MM - STFU Rex Ryan - order in the class room please Mo - be a pro I recommend you to see it with fresh eyes for yourself. They played well. Dont really see how anyone can say different. A couple of bad breaks, some bizarre sh*t and just a crazy finish to an otherwise good game for the Jets. They need to tighten some things up and get consistent play for 4 quarters. They're playing above their talent level. Truly think if they can put it all together, they can beat anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 They played well. Dont really see how anyone can say different. A couple of bad breaks, some bizarre sh*t and just a crazy finish to an otherwise good game for the Jets. They need to tighten some things up and get consistent play for 4 quarters. They're playing above their talent level. Truly think if they can put it all together, they can beat anyone. Lol, so you found it.. Agree again but maybe you're a bit too high saying we could beat anyone. Top 5 in the league will be too much to ask for. Most important is that we can beat the pats home and away this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The team is young, scrappy, and mentally retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Lol, so you found it.. Agree again but maybe you're a bit too high saying we could beat anyone. Top 5 in the league will be too much to ask for. Most important is that we can beat the pats home and away this year! I dont know man...when they were clicking on all cylinders in the first half....that was some pretty awesome Football. This place was going mental. Read the first 10 pages of the game thread. Everyone wanted to **** everyone. They keep that up for 4 quarters and they blow the Packers out and a lot of other teams in the league too. Again, they had a great shot to tie it up missing their best players on both sides of the ball and the offense going into a comma for 30 minutes. Sucks they lost, but they looked a lot better than I expected doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The offense looks better but relax on geno. He is far from a franchise qb ! He's good but not a franchise qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I dont know man...when they were clicking on all cylinders in the first half....that was some pretty awesome Football. This place was going mental. Read the first 10 pages of the game thread. Everyone wanted to **** everyone. They keep that up for 4 quarters and they blow the Packers out and a lot of other teams in the league too. Again, they had a great shot to tie it up missing their best players on both sides of the ball and the offense going into a comma for 30 minutes. Sucks they lost, but they looked a lot better than I expected doing it. You're right but I can't get into my head that they can repeat that picture perfect start again this year. I have never seen that before from the Jets, ever! So to ask for that AND the rest of the game is for me like 1+1=100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The offense looks better but relax on geno. He is far from a franchise qb ! He's good but not a franchise qb No of course not. Can he be one though? After the ps and the first two games I would say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 After seeing the game again. I feel less depressed and encouraged for the future! Plus: Tommy B! Decker - a real WR Geno - a franchise QB in the makings. D Davis - breakout game? Powell - really good performance Kerley - reliable as always Milliner - a real Dr Jekyll / mr Hyde game. Did he get tired? I say that one is on the coaches who played him too much, and him for not saying so when he felt it. Good first half anyway. Colon - no penalties! Bad: #67 - he has ways to go Sudfeld - not bad, worse than bad play on the INT. Steven Hill bad... Milliner - second half Pryor - rookie game MM - STFU Rex Ryan - order in the class room please Mo - be a pro I recommend you to see it with fresh eyes for yourself. Can we add Kyle Wilson to the bad, I've never disliked a Jet so much, except maybe Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 No of course not. Can he be one though? After the ps and the first two games I would say yes. Well it depends on what u think a franchise qb is. . Mine is people like manning Brady Rodgers So for me he probably won't be . He can be good but he's to inconsistent for me yest. He was 10-13 to start after that he was 6- 19 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Can we add Kyle Wilson to the bad, I've never disliked a Jet so much, except maybe Holmes. Yes of course! I forgot to add him and Vick to the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The team is young, scrappy, and mentally retarded. I had to neg rep this for use of the word "scrappy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Can we add Kyle Wilson to the bad, I've never disliked a Jet so much, except maybe Holmes. Jerry Holmes was one of my favorite Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM28 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Well it depends on what u think a franchise qb is. . Mine is people like manning Brady Rodgers So for me he probably won't be . He can be good but he's to inconsistent for me yest. He was 10-13 to start after that he was 6- 19 . True. I would say up there or just below. A reliable starter who can make all the throws, awareness, ice cool, leader. Have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Ah. I think was commenting on a different post. Somebody had mentioned that guys are giving up on plays when Geno is flushed, pressured or they aren't the read. I mixed that with your comments when I responded. Not the failure to sprint on everything. Geno does a good job of not underthrowing people. Compared to other QBs is more likely to lead guys deep. Maybe that is why these guys are not still sprinting? I don't know. This is the play btw... https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/D0350999271123346828658626560_2b062c5c868.5.1.17892219362651196900.mp4?versionId=HEN._kzuar1SoJlZ6bEYj2osLH5gnhiA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The team is young, scrappy, and mentally retarded. "Never go full retard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 This is the play btw... https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/D0350999271123346828658626560_2b062c5c868.5.1.17892219362651196900.mp4?versionId=HEN._kzuar1SoJlZ6bEYj2osLH5gnhiA Yeah. I remember that one. It is pretty obvious that Cumberland thinks he is supposed to be sitting down in the zone. It's hard to tell who is at fault. It might be something as simple as Cumberland missing the preseason and he and Geno needing to get used to each other. If he is takes it up hard looking over his inside shoulder he may be running into Branch, Looks like Rogers blew it biting so hard on Amaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Yeah. I remember that one. It is pretty obvious that Cumberland thinks he is supposed to be sitting down in the zone. It's hard to tell who is at fault. It might be something as simple as Cumberland missing the preseason and he and Geno needing to get used to each other. If he is takes it up hard looking over his inside shoulder he may be running into Branch, Looks like Rogers blew it biting so hard on Amaro. Just going off of our first two games...or receivers are still well below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yes of course! I forgot to add him and Vick to the bad. Another guy I would add to the bad is Jeff Cumberland. The guy just cannot block. Several times in this game on running plays to the perimeter, it looked like Johnson had a running lane on the cut back, only to have Cumby miss his block and a potential big play became a 2 or 3 yard gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Another guy I would add to the bad is Jeff Cumberland. The guy just cannot block. Several times in this game on running plays to the perimeter, it looked like Johnson had a running lane on the cut back, only to have Cumby miss his block and a potential big play became a 2 or 3 yard gain. Had hope with CUmberland as a receiver...and obviously the team has too....but this guy just seems to be a JAG. And you're right he is a terrible blocker. Another guy who's stunting Geno's growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Had hope with CUmberland as a receiver...and obviously the team has too....but this guy just seems to be a JAG. And you're right he is a terrible blocker. Another guy who's stunting Geno's growth. Cumby fooled me last year. I expected big things out of him, I thought he was ready for a breakout year as a receiver, but it just hasn't worked out. It looked to me like his blocking last night was brutal and was a huge factor in the lack of a perimeter running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I can't even fault Geno for the pick yesterday. He got hit as he threw. We've seen it happen to much better QBs over the years many, many times. That was more a bad break than a bad performance from Geno. Rodgers threw a completely awful and ridiculous INT and he is a seasoned vet. he just lucked out because of a dumb penalty.we have to lighten up on the INTs. All QBs have them. If Geno has 16 or 17 after 12 games, I will be scratching my head. I expect him to have some clean games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Can we add Kyle Wilson to the bad, I've never disliked a Jet so much, except maybe Holmes.He's one of those guys everyone here will keep defending, then we'll cut him and he'll be out of the league. And then everyone will finally admit he sucked the whole time. Just admit he was a sh*tty pick and move on, Bellicheck would've cut him 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He's one of those guys everyone here will keep defending, then we'll cut him and he'll be out of the league. And then everyone will finally admit he sucked the whole time. Just admit he was a sh*tty pick and move on, Bellicheck would've cut him 2 years ago. The Klecko law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What kills me, and why I hated the Amaro pick, if you want to run the ball draft OL and blocking TE. Last year I wanted Womack and they pick Milliner. This year they need a WR and pick pass receiving TE (which they already had) instead of WR. There needs to be a plan - there just doesnt seem to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Rodgers threw a completely awful and ridiculous INT and he is a seasoned vet. he just lucked out because of a dumb penalty.we have to lighten up on the INTs. All QBs have them. If Geno has 16 or 17 after 12 games, I will be scratching my head. I expect him to have some clean games this year. I dont hink that's true - He knew he had a free play and was trying to hit one down the seam - it was a gamble and he knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What kills me, and why I hated the Amaro pick, if you want to run the ball draft OL and blocking TE. Last year I wanted Womack and they pick Milliner. This year they need a WR and pick pass receiving TE (which they already had) instead of WR. There needs to be a plan - there just doesnt seem to be one. Rex gets the defensive player he wants in round one and then we throw darts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He's one of those guys everyone here will keep defending, then we'll cut him and he'll be out of the league. And then everyone will finally admit he sucked the whole time. Just admit he was a sh*tty pick and move on, Bellicheck would've cut him 2 years ago. Only a select few desperate-to-defend-Rex slackjaws defend the Kyle Wilson pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Rex gets the defensive player he wants in round one and then we throw darts. I'm still trying to figure out what Pryor thought he was doing on that Jordy Nelson long TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm still trying to figure out what Pryor thought he was doing on that Jordy Nelson long TD.trying to " knock someone's face in" to make his new drinking buddy ... Sorry I mean new head coach ...look like a prophet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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