Is D Mac really that good?

[#90]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

[jetpower10]

hes not all that great. he can run yea but couldnt break a tackle to save his life.

[rillo]

Sounds like all hype to me....*cough* Reggie Bush *cough*

[SayNoToDMC]

If you're buying an upcoming copy of NCAA Football 09 he will be the greatest back ever. I'm very excited about his potentional on my Xbox. On The Jets not so much, he's going to define a bust in a few years

[Favorite_Toon]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

Because they dont NEED him.... thats why... they have more pressing needs... and why did 6 TEAMS PASS ON ADRIAN PETERSON? ASK YOURSELF THAT

[Gainzo]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

I think he is going to be this years Matt Lienert at the draft. He's going to be sitting in that room with his suit on waiting for his name to come up as he slips further and further down the board.

He can run really fast. I'll give him that.

[KudosForND]

Mcfadden is the most overrated running back ever. ok last year he had 325 carries 1830 yards averaged 5.6 ypc not gonna lie that pretty good but alot of them are from quarterback position which my high school team did and our crappy back wiht only speed made the newspapers first team. it can make a mediocre running back into a star.

Felix Jones his team mate had 133 carries 1162 yards 8.7 ypc that is so much better then him and another thing is his line and fullback are underrated i mean they had 2 1000 yard rushers and no one gives them respect. the fullback Peyton Hills is amazing and gets no respect at all.

[DieHardJetsFan]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

Same reason why 6 or 7 other teams passed on Peterson last year, I remember alot of Jet fans saying thay Peterson would be a BUST because he dominated the College level, I guess his stats just looked to good to be true. Jet fans said Vince Young would be a total bust, Cutler would be a bust, Mario Williams would be a bust, I can keep going, Anyone who compares McFadden to Reggie must not know to much about the running back position. Not only does Bush dance behind the LOS, but Bush has always been a WR playing the position of a RB, plain and simple. McFadden NEVER dances behind the LOS,He simply explodes through the Line. The man has GREAT speed with amazing field vision.

Miami has Ronnie Brown with no QB or defense, how could they draft McFadden?

Rams have Steven Jackson and need D-Line and O-Line, how could they draft McFadden?

Atlanta just signed Turner because they are in dying need of a quarterback (Thanks Vick) How could they draft McFadden?

Raiders are a mess, they may take McFadden, thats a toss up, they have alot of other problems though

Chiefs, thats a funny one, No way are the Chiefs in position to draft McFadden, its not possible

Alot of McFadden doubters say he cant break a tackle to save his life, sorry, He's not a Jerome Bettis or even a Steven Jackson type of runner, he's more of an athlete than that. He cant break a tackle? Thats funny... Once again, people who say he cant break a tackle must only watch highlights on McFadden, have you ever seen his stiff arm? It's lethal.

The funny thing is... Im all for the Jets drafting Gholston, thats the player I want, but I do know that McFadden is a special back.

[Favorite_Toon]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

Same reason why 6 or 7 other teams passed on Peterson last year, I remember alot of Jet fans saying he would be a BUST because he dominated the College level, I guess his stats just looked to good to be true. Anyone who compares McFadden to Reggie must not know to much about the running back position. Not only does Bush dance behind the LOS, but Bush has always been a WR playing the position of a RB, plain and simple. McFadden NEVER dances behind the LOS,He simply explodes through the Line. The man has GREAT speed with amazing field vision.

Miami has Ronnie Brown with no QB or defense, how could they draft McFadden?

Rams have Steven Jackson and need D-Line and O-Line, how could they draft McFadden?

Atlanta just signed Turner because they are in dying need of a quarterback (Thanks Vick) How could they draft McFadden?

Raiders are a mess, they may take McFadden, thats a toss up, they have alot of other problems though

Chiefs, thats a funny one, No way are the Chiefs in position to draft McFadden, its not possible

Alot of McFadden doubters say he cant break a tackle to save his life, sorry, He's not a Jerome Bettis or even a Steven Jackson type of runner, he's more of an athlete than that. He cant break a tackle? Thats funny... Once again, people who say he cant break a tackle must only watch highlights on McFadden, have you ever seen his stiff arm? It's lethal.

The funny thing is... Im all for the Jets drafting Gholston, thats the player I want, but I do know that McFadden is a special back.

Awesome Post!!

[KudosForND]

Same reason why 6 or 7 other teams passed on Peterson last year, I remember alot of Jet fans saying he would be a BUST because he dominated the College level, I guess his stats just looked to good to be true. Anyone who compares McFadden to Reggie must not know to much about the running back position. Not only does Bush dance behind the LOS, but Bush has always been a WR playing the position of a RB, plain and simple. McFadden NEVER dances behind the LOS,He simply explodes through the Line. The man has GREAT speed with amazing field vision.

Miami has Ronnie Brown with no QB or defense, how could they draft McFadden?

Rams have Steven Jackson and need D-Line and O-Line, how could they draft McFadden?

Atlanta just signed Turner because they are in dying need of a quarterback (Thanks Vick) How could they draft McFadden?

Raiders are a mess, they may take McFadden, thats a toss up, they have alot of other problems though

Chiefs, thats a funny one, No way are the Chiefs in position to draft McFadden, its not possible

Alot of McFadden doubters say he cant break a tackle to save his life, sorry, He's not a Jerome Bettis or even a Steven Jackson type of runner, he's more of an athlete than that. He cant break a tackle? Thats funny... Once again, people who say he cant break a tackle must only watch highlights on McFadden, have you ever seen his stiff arm? It's lethal.

The funny thing is... Im all for the Jets drafting Gholston, thats the player I want, but I do know that McFadden is a special back.

Cheifs can take him, why not? larry johnsons best year was when him and priest split running back and larry and mcfadden would be good together to different running backs.

i see them taking him more than anyone in the top 8 picks

[nico002]

I'm not sure what I think of DMC.

However.

If Tangini draft DMC I will be very very happy. They've proved to me they know what they are doing when it comes to evaluating talent.

[chacepennington]

i think dmc is a great rb and hope the jets draft him he would be a great running back 4 us thomas jones isnt going 2 do anything 4 us and leon isnt powerfull enough 2 go thought the line so we need a new young rb

[DieHardJetsFan]

Cheifs can take him, why not? larry johnsons best year was when him and priest split running back and larry and mcfadden would be good together to different running backs.

i see them taking him more than anyone in the top 8 picks

Just go look at the Chiefs O-Line, it may be worse than the Jets O-Line of last year

[KudosForND]

Just go look at the Chiefs O-Line, it may be worse than the Jets O-Line of last year

yea i kno they dont need him but jets dont either(cheifs need him more then jets)and u gotta remember herm is there.

thers no teams that need a running back still like 15th pick its jsut a matter who u is stupid enuff to take him

[bobbyjet69]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

He's a faster Brad Smith. Played out of the option alot in college, just didn't throw the ball as much as Brad.

[ccccccc1192]

I understand that the idea of having Mcfadden in a Jets uniform is an exciting thing but the Jets have so many more roster spots that need work.

[Kidhuman]

He is a want, not a need. Draft Gholston if he is there. Draft Cris Long before holston if he is there. If they are gone trade down.

[Sperm Edwards]

Same reason why 6 or 7 other teams passed on Peterson last year, I remember alot of Jet fans saying thay Peterson would be a BUST because he dominated the College level, I guess his stats just looked to good to be true. Jet fans said Vince Young would be a total bust, Cutler would be a bust, Mario Williams would be a bust, I can keep going, Anyone who compares McFadden to Reggie must not know to much about the running back position. Not only does Bush dance behind the LOS, but Bush has always been a WR playing the position of a RB, plain and simple. McFadden NEVER dances behind the LOS,He simply explodes through the Line. The man has GREAT speed with amazing field vision.

Miami has Ronnie Brown with no QB or defense, how could they draft McFadden?

Rams have Steven Jackson and need D-Line and O-Line, how could they draft McFadden?

Atlanta just signed Turner because they are in dying need of a quarterback (Thanks Vick) How could they draft McFadden?

Raiders are a mess, they may take McFadden, thats a toss up, they have alot of other problems though

Chiefs, thats a funny one, No way are the Chiefs in position to draft McFadden, its not possible

Alot of McFadden doubters say he cant break a tackle to save his life, sorry, He's not a Jerome Bettis or even a Steven Jackson type of runner, he's more of an athlete than that. He cant break a tackle? Thats funny... Once again, people who say he cant break a tackle must only watch highlights on McFadden, have you ever seen his stiff arm? It's lethal.

The funny thing is... Im all for the Jets drafting Gholston, thats the player I want, but I do know that McFadden is a special back.

Again, as of right now the Rams only "have" Jackson for 1 more year. They're having difficulty getting him signed & leaving enough room for another $50M+ contract b/c they have the #2 pick.

What a friggin' curse it is having a top-3 pick. If you don't end up with absolute greatness, your 2-4 win team stands a good chance of staying that way (unless you get mega-lucky in later rounds like NO did in '06 with 4th rounder Jahri Evans turning into an instant-starter & compensatory 7th rounder Marques Colston turning into an instant-stud.

[Favorite_Toon]

I understand that the idea of having Mcfadden in a Jets uniform is an exciting thing but the Jets have so many more roster spots that need work.

Your wrong!! we filled those in free agency so now theres no excuse... nobody has any excuse!!! draft an o-lineman? NOPE we addressed that... DRAFT A DT? NOPE>> Draft a DE NOPE we did that too.... BPA for the draft...

For the guy that said mcfadden is another brad smith...LOL goto bed..

[BroadwayJoe12]

I have never been a big proponent of drafting mcfadden, mainly because we had other needs and gholston fit them perfectly. I remember saying gholston would be the best choice for us when i first came on here and some people, mainly bitonti, said he wasn't anything special and i was high for thinking he'd be a good selection for us; i'm not calling anyone out or anything, i'm just saying i definately have liked the guy for a while. However, since our front office has gone and shored up a lot of the holes we had coming into the offseason I no longer think gholston is a smart choice; i dont see the point in putting 40 million with 17 in guarantees into a position with which we already have two guys making big money (one 25 mill extension and the other just signed one with 22 mill in guarantees).

I have warmed up to the mcfadden idea even though i have said i think mendenhall is a better all around back. Mendenhall is the better all around back, but there is no question that mcfadden is a special talent. I don't like the idea of mcfadden being your workhorse but i think he'd be amazing splitting time with a thomas jones, marion barber etc. whereas mendenhall could be your marshawn lynch and carry the ball 25+ times a game. I have said i don't like the idea of drafting a runningback this high in the draft, unless a team as relatively few needs (with which that pick could be used for) and a good offensive line. You don't select a #2 cb with the 6th overall pick, there aren't any WRs worth the 6th overall pick this year and we have developed a pretty darn good Oline (on paper..we have the potential for a good offensive line). This is why i think mcfadden could be justified, i'm not saying it's my favorite pick, but it's a lot more justifiable now than it was a week ago.

For those of you who say mcfadden can't break a tackle you are obviously overexaggerating; i understand he doesn't have the strongest lower body or the leg drive of maurice jones drew, but after watching more film i've seen a few instances where he has pushed a pile. On the reggie bush comparisons; besides speed they are nothing alike. You would see bush on all the highlight reels making people miss, reversing the play to the other side of the field and juking a would be tackler in the backfield than taking it to the house. With mcfadden, he gets the ball, hits the hole and then outruns everyone on the field. Besides being black and insanely fast they are very different style runners.

I could make an argument either way for him, but i just hope if he's as good as some people say we get him and if he's not that good than mangini and his guys are good enough to know that.

[Favorite_Toon]

I have never been a big proponent of drafting mcfadden, mainly because we had other needs and gholston fit them perfectly. I remember saying gholston would be the best choice for us when i first came on here and some people, mainly bitonti, said he wasn't anything special and i was high for thinking he'd be a good selection for us; i'm not calling anyone out or anything, i'm just saying i definately have liked the guy for a while. However, since our front office has gone and shored up a lot of the holes we had coming into the offseason I no longer think gholston is a smart choice; i dont see the point in putting 40 million with 17 in guarantees into a position with which we already have two guys making big money (one 25 mill extension and the other just signed one with 22 mill in guarantees).

I have warmed up to the mcfadden idea even though i have said i think mendenhall is a better all around back. Mendenhall is the better all around back, but there is no question that mcfadden is a special talent. I don't like the idea of mcfadden being your workhorse but i think he'd be amazing splitting time with a thomas jones, marion barber etc. whereas mendenhall could be your marshawn lynch and carry the ball 25+ times a game. I have said i don't like the idea of drafting a runningback this high in the draft, unless a team as relatively few needs (with which that pick could be used for) and a good offensive line. You don't select a #2 cb with the 6th overall pick, there aren't any WRs worth the 6th overall pick this year and we have developed a pretty darn good Oline (on paper..we have the potential for a good offensive line). This is why i think mcfadden could be justified, i'm not saying it's my favorite pick, but it's a lot more justifiable now than it was a week ago.

For those of you who say mcfadden can't break a tackle you are obviously overexaggerating; i understand he doesn't have the strongest lower body or the leg drive of maurice jones drew, but after watching more film i've seen a few instances where he has pushed a pile. On the reggie bush comparisons; besides speed they are nothing alike. You would see bush on all the highlight reels making people miss, reversing the play to the other side of the field and juking a would be tackler in the backfield than taking it to the house. With mcfadden, he gets the ball, hits the hole and then outruns everyone on the field. Besides being black and insanely fast they are very different style runners.

I could make an argument either way for him, but i just hope if he's as good as some people say we get him and if he's not that good than mangini and his guys are good enough to know that.

Excellent post... you are seeing the light... we spent alot of money on d-lineman in free agency.. so gholsten is no longer needed..

[rillo]

Excellent post... you are seeing the light... we spent alot of money on d-lineman in free agency.. so gholsten is no longer needed..

I really hope ur joking....only way to beat the Pats is by PASS RUSH. Gholston all the way, and this CS knows it. You can never have enough pass rush.

[SayNoToDMC]

I really hope ur joking....only way to beat the Pats is by PASS RUSH. Gholston all the way, and this CS knows it. You can never have enough pass rush.

Don't bother, he's not kidding.

McFadden could have his leg amputated before the draft and he would still be convinced McFadden is better on one leg then Adrian Peterson or LT could ever be on two.

[Favorite_Toon]

Don't bother, he's not kidding.

McFadden could have his leg amputated before the draft and he would still be convinced McFadden is better on one leg then Adrian Peterson or LT could ever be on two.

The Jets have been extremely active during free agency and have essentially filled four of their biggest holes: OLB (Calvin Pace), OG (Alan Faneca), NT (Kris Jenkins), and RT (Damien Woody). Plus they attempted to deal Dewayne Robertson for two picks, and although that deal fell through, I think it may be a clue as to what the Jets are thinking about coming into the draft. In desperate need of an electric playmaker, I think the Jets have allowed themselves to make a run at Darren McFadden. Moving up just one or two spots could cost them quite a bit, but remember, this team will sacrifice picks to get the guy they want (Revis, Harris in 2007). I

[#27TheDominator]

I don't care how much they are paying Pace, I don't think they are envisioning him being some kind of sack demon. Even his agent didn't act like he'd be a sack artist, but an all around guy.

You don't draft a RB to split carries at #6, you don't draft a #2 CB at #6, you don't draft a RT at #6, you don't draft a part time pass rush specialist at #6. Guess what, it looks like we'll be drafting one of them. QB is the only "premiere" spot where you could make a case that we have an obvious need. I'm not in love with the idea, but honestly wouldn't be shocked if they end up with Ryan. I think I am hoping for Gholston at this point.

[rillo]

I don't care how much they are paying Pace, I don't think they are envisioning him being some kind of sack demon. Even his agent didn't act like he'd be a sack artist, but an all around guy.

You don't draft a RB to split carries at #6, you don't draft a #2 CB at #6, you don't draft a RT at #6, you don't draft a part time pass rush specialist at #6. Guess what, it looks like we'll be drafting one of them. QB is the only "premiere" spot where you could make a case that we have an obvious need. I'm not in love with the idea, but honestly wouldn't be shocked if they end up with Ryan. I think I am hoping for Gholston at this point.

Man I hope not....I rather have McFadden LOL

[Sperm Edwards]

I don't care how much they are paying Pace, I don't think they are envisioning him being some kind of sack demon. Even his agent didn't act like he'd be a sack artist, but an all around guy.

You don't draft a RB to split carries at #6, you don't draft a #2 CB at #6, you don't draft a RT at #6, you don't draft a part time pass rush specialist at #6. Guess what, it looks like we'll be drafting one of them. QB is the only "premiere" spot where you could make a case that we have an obvious need. I'm not in love with the idea, but honestly wouldn't be shocked if they end up with Ryan. I think I am hoping for Gholston at this point.

Damn skippy.

If we can't make a major move down (like a trade with Dallas that frankly they'd have to be insane to do) I'd take ANY moves down just for the sake of moving down. One slot. Two slots. And keep doing it as much as possible until we're at least down to #15. None of these guys are worth a 5 yr/$45M contract with $18M+ in year one.

It's just hard to trade down from that high; the "chart" compensation is just stupid when the contract #'s are even stupidly higher. I'd take any opportunity we can get to move down at all.

[Matt39]

If Mangini thinks Matt Ryan has the goods, take him.

[drago]

Damn skippy.

If we can't make a major move down (like a trade with Dallas that frankly they'd have to be insane to do) I'd take ANY moves down just for the sake of moving down. One slot. Two slots. And keep doing it as much as possible until we're at least down to #15. None of these guys are worth a 5 yr/$45M contract with $18M+ in year one.

It's just hard to trade down from that high; the "chart" compensation is just stupid when the contract #'s are even stupidly higher. I'd take any opportunity we can get to move down at all.

If we did trade down, wouldn't the signing bonus of the lesser draft pick, and the aquire two picks accumulate to the total of paying one player?

I'm not saying it's not a good thing to do, i'd rather have the multiple players...especially in this draft.

[Sperm Edwards]

If Mangini thinks Matt Ryan has the goods, take him.

I can live with that one if we don't move down. At least we can justify (1) a high pick like that, and (2) the cap space. Clemens is going to need a new contract after 2008 if we stick with him, and Pennington (and his cap #) would be totally expendable now. Save only $3M this year by cutting him early, but in year one the rookie's contract wouldn't be much more than that; kind of a wash. Then as Ryan's cap # grows (along with the guys we just acquired), we won't have CP on the payroll anymore.

Doubt he's there at #6 though. Atlanta has made no moves other than adding a RB (Turner), releasing Harrington, and letting Leftwich hit FA. At this point they look like a lock to take him at #3.

[PeterNorth09]

If the guy is the ultimate game breaker that everyone keeps saying he is, why would the five teams in front of the Jets pass on him?????

For the same reason a whole bunch of teams passed on A-Pete last season, teams underestimate the value of a talented RB.

[Favorite_Toon]

I can live with that one if we don't move down. At least we can justify (1) a high pick like that, and (2) the cap space. Clemens is going to need a new contract after 2008 if we stick with him, and Pennington (and his cap #) would be totally expendable now. Save only $3M this year by cutting him early, but in year one the rookie's contract wouldn't be much more than that; kind of a wash. Then as Ryan's cap # grows (along with the guys we just acquired), we won't have CP on the payroll anymore.

Doubt he's there at #6 though. Atlanta has made no moves other than adding a RB (Turner), releasing Harrington, and letting Leftwich hit FA. At this point they look like a lock to take him at #3.

Matt Ryans Just sounds Like a Jet Qb...lol

btw for the guy said you dont take a RB to split carries at 6?? They took adrian peterson at 7 and he split carries with chester taylor.. some people just dont think..

[#27TheDominator]

I really like the chances of the 4.27-running monster known as D-Mac ending up a Jet on draft day. But, then again, these are the Jets

[drago]

Matt Ryans Just sounds Like a Jet Qb...lol

btw for the guy said you dont take a RB to split carries at 6?? They took adrian peterson at 7 and he split carries with chester taylor.. some people just dont think..

some people don't think he is in the same class as peterson. One thing is for sure, i'm looking forward to seeing where he is drafted, and how he performs (i just don't want him to be on the jets).

[Favorite_Toon]

I can live with that one if we don't move down. At least we can justify (1) a high pick like that, and (2) the cap space. Clemens is going to need a new contract after 2008 if we stick with him, and Pennington (and his cap #) would be totally expendable now. Save only $3M this year by cutting him early, but in year one the rookie's contract wouldn't be much more than that; kind of a wash. Then as Ryan's cap # grows (along with the guys we just acquired), we won't have CP on the payroll anymore.

Doubt he's there at #6 though. Atlanta has made no moves other than adding a RB (Turner), releasing Harrington, and letting Leftwich hit FA. At this point they look like a lock to take him at #3.

some people don't think he is in the same class as peterson. One thing is for sure, i'm looking forward to seeing where he is drafted, and how he performs (i just don't want him to be on the jets).

Why not..we did an excellent job in free agency to be able to take the BPA..why not him? whol else can you think of thats worth a top 6 pick?