Matt39 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_29222/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Dng4OwZg “He’s been a lot of help to us thus far, and even now coming back around, he’s just going to influence a lot more in our passing game,” receiver Santonio Holmes said. “It’s up to our offensive coordinator if he’s going to take in the words. But I’m pretty sure they brought him in for a little bit of words of encouragement.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How is that shot at Schotty? If thats a shot, then so was what Keller and Rex said. You're worse than the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How is that shot at Schotty? Exactly. If anything this proves that it's all Shonn Greene's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I blame Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 i thought it was a shot at him when i first read it also, but when i read it again i think i realized what he meant to say, i think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How is that shot at Schotty? Moore comes up to fix Schotty's mess, and a team captain says "It's up to our offensive coordinator if he's going to take in his words," and that's NOT taking a shot at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I don't think it was a shot because he followed up with Moore being here to provide words of encouragement. But it's also no secret that Holmes doesn't like Shotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Moore comes up to fix Schotty's mess, and a team captain says "It's up to our offensive coordinator if he's going to take in his words," and that's NOT taking a shot at him? No. Not really. Did you read the entire article? How is it any different than what Keller said or what Rex said? Isnt the simple fact that Moore is here a shot at Schotty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 No. Not really. Did you read the entire article? How is it any different than what Keller said or what Rex said? Isnt the simple fact that Moore is here a shot at Schotty? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knix Tix Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 When I read that yesterday I thought he was taking a pot shot at Shoddy as well. It just like when you insult somebody, and then put LOL. Bottom line, the man just has to do a better job at play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Exactly. If anything this proves that it's all Shonn Greene's fault. Good god I've gotten under your skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If anything Holmes took a shot at Rex over the Cutting of Cook. The articles in the paper said Rex went to Mike T and said he wanted Cook cut. Here's Holmes comment "WR Santonio Holmes said it was "a tough pill," adding this strange comment: "It's fortunate he's in a better situation now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If anything Holmes took a shot at Rex over the Cutting of Cook. The articles in the paper said Rex went to Mike T and said he wanted Cook cut. Here's Holmes comment "WR Santonio Holmes said it was "a tough pill," adding this strange comment: "It's fortunate he's in a better situation now." Where are you reading this? Still don't understand the Cook dismissal at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 The more I hear from Holmes the more it sounds like signing him for 10 mill was a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 How is that shot at Schotty? If thats a shot, then so was what Keller and Rex said. You're worse than the media Its just him hearing what he wants to hear. Schotty seems like a decent enough guy, but he seems stubborn. He wants to prove he can do things his way and that gets the team in trouble. Instead of continuing with the hot hand, he'll try some gimmick play, like the shovel pass in the 4th quarter. That is something better saved for earlier in the game, when the defense is totally off guard or geared up for something else. However, the offensive design that he has come up with this year puzzles me. Sancez has shown he can be effective when rolling out of the pocket. He has receivers who would do well in short space (Kerley, Keller) and would be well suited for routes designed off a qb rolling out. The lack of an explosive downfield passing attack stuns me. Holmes has enough speed to be a vertical threat. Perhaps it's lack of faith in the O-line. To me it seems like the talent on this offense could be top 10 but it's misused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Its just him hearing what he wants to hear. Schotty seems like a decent enough guy, but he seems stubborn. He wants to prove he can do things his way and that gets the team in trouble. Instead of continuing with the hot hand, he'll try some gimmick play, like the shovel pass in the 4th quarter. That is something better saved for earlier in the game, when the defense is totally off guard or geared up for something else. However, the offensive design that he has come up with this year puzzles me. Sancez has shown he can be effective when rolling out of the pocket. He has receivers who would do well in short space (Kerley, Keller) and would be well suited for routes designed off a qb rolling out. The lack of an explosive downfield passing attack stuns me. Holmes has enough speed to be a vertical threat. Perhaps it's lack of faith in the O-line. To me it seems like the talent on this offense could be top 10 but it's misused. I think the OL has played a major factor in why we havent been trying to go deep. They were protecting well last week and we took more mid to deep shots than I recall all year. So sure, it all starts up front. I've always thought Schotty's offensive philospy was a$$ backwards. IMO you compliment a power running game with a vertical passing attack. Not a short yard ball control offense. It makes it way too easy on the defense. They dont need to cover the entire field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If anything Holmes took a shot at Rex over the Cutting of Cook. The articles in the paper said Rex went to Mike T and said he wanted Cook cut. Here's Holmes comment "WR Santonio Holmes said it was "a tough pill," adding this strange comment: "It's fortunate he's in a better situation now." In the News thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Moore comes up to fix Schotty's mess, and a team captain says "It's up to our offensive coordinator if he's going to take in his words," and that's NOT taking a shot at him? Stop stop your making sense. Rex even said i would love to keep him around here which tells me he has no faith in his offensive coordinator. If our Offensive coordinator was trusted to do the Job would Moore even be here at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 The more I hear from Holmes the more it sounds like signing him for 10 mill was a mistake! 50 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Smash is now my GM, coach, and star WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 50 mil I was talking the per year average. But you already knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I think the OL has played a major factor in why we havent been trying to go deep. They were protecting well last week and we took more mid to deep shots than I recall all year. So sure, it all starts up front. I've always thought Schotty's offensive philospy was a$$ backwards. IMO you compliment a power running game with a vertical passing attack. Not a short yard ball control offense. It makes it way too easy on the defense. They dont need to cover the entire field. Perfect example being the Saints. For all the comparisons that Schotty made of Sanchez to Brees, he certainly doesn't treat him or design an offense like Brees. I believe Sanchez would do wonders in an offense similar to Brees. The Saints move him around, have guys open on outward breaking routes. Have TE's running skinny posts, and take deep shots. Then they want to RUN the football. Why Schotty wont do that... stubborness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Perfect example being the Saints. For all the comparisons that Schotty made of Sanchez to Brees, he certainly doesn't treat him or design an offense like Brees. I believe Sanchez would do wonders in an offense similar to Brees. The Saints move him around, have guys open on outward breaking routes. Have TE's running skinny posts, and take deep shots. Then they want to RUN the football. Why Schotty wont do that... stubborness Yep exactly how I feel but thayt would mean getting 3 new RB;s in here and probably just as many WR's in other words a revamp of the crap we currently have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Perfect example being the Saints. For all the comparisons that Schotty made of Sanchez to Brees, he certainly doesn't treat him or design an offense like Brees. I believe Sanchez would do wonders in an offense similar to Brees. The Saints move him around, have guys open on outward breaking routes. Have TE's running skinny posts, and take deep shots. Then they want to RUN the football. Why Schotty wont do that... stubborness Seriously? I understand all the anti-Schotty, it's not Sanchez fault threads, but is there anything on earth that makes you think Sanchez is ready to run a Saints style offense? I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 **** SCHOTTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Seriously? I understand all the anti-Schotty, it's not Sanchez fault threads, but is there anything on earth that makes you think Sanchez is ready to run a Saints style offense? I don't see it. I think it's the fact that Sanchez's best performance is not nearly as good as a pretty good performance from Brees. That's the ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 yeah and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Smash is now my GM, coach, and star WR. Too bad you can't find a QB. You're going to have to fire Smash for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I think it's the fact that Sanchez's best performance is not nearly as good as a pretty good performance from Brees. That's the ticket! Well if they'd let him throw to a RB or get a WR like Lance Moore...and maybe design a route that gets guys open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Too bad you can't find a QB. You're going to have to fire Smash for that. You can be my OC, and my QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 You can be my OC, and my QB. You'd still have to fire him. I meeean.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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