Schiano doesn't think Revis is a shutdown corner.. on a fulltime basis??

[pointman]

Article.. Schiano is very complimentary of Revis, but also says that Revis won't be on his island like we used him, at least not on a full time basis. Interesting.

 

This quote is from Dan Pompei, a writer for the National Football Post.

 

Bucs coach Greg Schiano thinks Darrelle Revis is the best cornerback he has evaluated in 25 years. He referenced Aeneas Williams and Deion Sanders as others who were highly impressive because of their coverage skills. "Darrelle is all of those things," Schiano said. "He's big, physical, a cover guy, he'll tackle you. And he works his rear end off. His passion for preparation is something I love." He said Revis will afford the Bucs the opportunity to take a receiver out of a game and play 10 on 10 -- not every snap, but some of the time. "That allows you to do some things," he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/6/9/4412512/buccaneers-plan-to-use-revis-in-single-coverage-only-some-of-the-time

[kelticwizard]

They're paying Revis $16 million a year to cover one-on-one occasionally?

 

Boy, the Bucs really did have a lot of cap room.

[TheShow]

lol wow that funny, gee we have the best corner in the league and we could shut down there best wr this week but nah well play zone.

totally going to fool them!   morons.

[kay_gee]

Hedging their bets in case Revis doesn't pull an Adrian Peterson?

[Larz]

revis got safety help here as well

 

I hope he holds out over this  lol

[shhwagah]

He said Revis is big? Sure he wasn't talking about Sherman Richardson?

[Integrity28]

Hedging their bets in case Revis doesn't pull an Adrian Peterson?

 

This.

[pointman]

revis got safety help here as well

 

I hope he holds out over this  lol

Not the majority of the time. He did his own thing, cause he could. Looks like Tampa isn't so sure.

[pointman]

He said Revis is big? Sure he wasn't talking about Sherman Richardson?

Yeah, I saw that. Revis looks completely pedestrian at times, and ginormous at others. But normal is more the reality I thinks.

[Blackout]

i still can't believe we got hosed on that trade so badly

[pointman]

i still can't believe we got hosed on that trade so badly

Didn't you hear? We got Dee Millsomething now. Its OK. He's the new Revis.

[Blackout]

Didn't you hear? We got Dee Millsomething now. Its OK. He's the new Revis.

 

Millsomething island doesn't have the same ring to it

[pointman]

Millsomething island doesn't have the same ring to it

Probably cause you're saying it normal. Say it like Dee does.. with a major league underbite. Its sounds like an awesome version of Slingblade then.

[SenorGato]

i still can't believe we got hosed on that trade so badly

 

BoyItellya I can coach defense. 

[Sperm Edwards]

BoyItellya I can coach defense. 

 

Hey, if he's such a great defensive coach then he doesn't need Revis eating up 1/7 of the salary cap.

[Scott Dierking]

They are obviously worried and throwing up a smokescreen for their week 1 match-up

[Smashmouth]

Article.. Schiano is very complimentary of Revis, but also says that Revis won't be on his island like we used him, at least not on a full time basis. Interesting.

 

This quote is from Dan Pompei, a writer for the National Football Post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/6/9/4412512/buccaneers-plan-to-use-revis-in-single-coverage-only-some-of-the-time

 

your thread title and what Schiano actually said are not the same. Schiano never said Revis was not a shutdown corner and he actually compared him to some of the games former greats so what is it your actually trying to say here ?

 

So Schiano may use him differently than Rex since they are different style of defenses. You have a problem with this ?

[pointman]

your thread title and what Schiano actually said are not the same. Schiano never said Revis was not a shutdown corner and he actually compared him to some of the games former greats so what is it your actually trying to say here ?

 

So Schiano may use him differently than Rex since they are different style of defenses. You have a problem with this ?

lol. Your tears taste so salty and delicious.

[kelticwizard]

your thread title and what Schiano actually said are not the same. Schiano never said Revis was not a shutdown corner and he actually compared him to some of the games former greats so what is it your actually trying to say here ?

 

So Schiano may use him differently than Rex since they are different style of defenses. You have a problem with this ?

 

Man-to-man is the most efficient pass defense possible, since it uses the fewest players.  This allows another player to blitz or do something else.

 

No coach would give up this advantage and give any cornerback help if he felt the cornerback could cover the receiver without help.  So when Schiano says that Revis will be man-to-man only some of the time, it means that he feels Revis cannot go man-to-man more often.

 

I think the thread title fairly represents the implication of Schiano's words.

[Integrity28]

They are obviously worried and throwing up a smokescreen for their week 1 match-up

That, or Schiano isn't Rex and doesn't run to the press to only up-sell his players and inflate their worth and ego. More likewise pal Bellichik, who notoriously anchors any praise with a statement about where X player can still improve. I prefer the philosophy that Rex doesn't employ personally, goal setting and benchmarking is important especially for giant dummies like NFL players. Telling them they are already the greatest sends message the don't need robe hungry. Don need to improve or impress.

[JoeKlecko]

Your thread title is misleading and doesn't represent your comments.  Schiano didn't say anything remotely resembling the thread title.  Schiano's his own coach.  He doesn't have to use Revis like Rex did.  He has different players, a different philosophy, schemes, etc.

[JiFtheOracle]

That, or Schiano isn't Rex and doesn't run to the press to only up-sell his players and inflate their worth and ego. More likewise pal Bellichik, who notoriously anchors any praise with a statement about where X player can still improve. I prefer the philosophy that Rex doesn't employ personally, goal setting and benchmarking is important especially for giant dummies like NFL players. Telling them they are already the greatest sends message the don't need robe hungry. Don need to improve or impress.

 

Trading your 11th overall pick and paying a player 16 million dollars a year is usually a pretty nice way of saying....we think you're really ******* good. 

[bitonti]

Your thread title is misleading and doesn't represent your comments.  Schiano didn't say anything remotely resembling the thread title.  Schiano's his own coach.  He doesn't have to use Revis like Rex did.  He has different players, a different philosophy, schemes, etc.

 

+1 there's only a handful of coaches who can use Revis like Rex did.  Rex is the most gifted defensive mind in the game today. 

[Scott Dierking]

+1 there's only a handful of coaches who can use Revis like Rex did.  Rex is the most gifted defensive mind in the game today. 

Dick LeBeau scoffs

[bitonti]

Dick LeBeau scoffs

 

lebeau is really good. So is Rex.  the difference is that lebeau is 75 invented the zone blitz 25 years ago. He's no longer innovating. Rex invents new coverages all the time.  Rex is more creative now. He's this generation's LeBeau. 

[Smashmouth]

Your thread title is misleading and doesn't represent your comments.  Schiano didn't say anything remotely resembling the thread title.  Schiano's his own coach.  He doesn't have to use Revis like Rex did.  He has different players, a different philosophy, schemes, etc.

yup

 

people need to keep in mind there are multiple ways to play defense and no coach will usev a player the same.

[Smashmouth]

lol. Your tears taste so salty and delicious.

 

what does this even mean ?

[peebag]

what does this even mean ?

Teardrop fetish?

[Lizard King]

lebeau is really good. So is Rex. the difference is that lebeau is 75 invented the zone blitz 25 years ago. He's no longer innovating. Rex invents new coverages all the time. Rex is more creative now. He's this generation's LeBeau.

That's a stretch.

[bitonti]

That's a stretch.

 

Rex haters aren't gonna know how good of a defensive coach Rex is... until he leaves and we watch the defense get worse.

[kelticwizard]

...... Schiano's his own coach.  He doesn't have to use Revis like Rex did.  He has different players, a different philosophy, schemes, etc.

 

In the beginning, (envision kelticwizard as a tall imposing figure with a flowing white robe and a long white beard), there was man-to-man pass coverage.  One CB on the split end, one on the flankerback, (those two terms were what they called wide receivers), strong safety on the tight end, and a free safety.

 

Then the wide receivers got track star fast.  And bigger.  Gradually, it was understood that the CB's couldn't cover them anymore.

 

So zone defense was invented. Receivers got better covered, but more men were used to do it.  More and more schemes were developed with the zone to help to cover the fact that more men were devoted to pass coverage.

 

The only reason anybody plays zone is because they don't have the personnel to play man-to-man.  When you pay $16 milliion to obtain the best man-to-man CB in the league, putting him in a zone is like buying a gold watch and then painting it.

[Scott Dierking]

Rex haters aren't gonna know how good of a defensive coach Rex is... until he leaves and we watch the defense get worse.

But we are expecting the counterbalance of other parts of the team improving.

 

This is not a defensive league any more. Defense alone can not win for you. 

 

Rex is unfortunately a one trick pony. And that pony is turning into a mare.

[bitonti]

But we are expecting the counterbalance of other parts of the team improving.

 

because if it's one thing firing coaches guarantees, it's that the team will get better. Just ask Tony Sparano! 

[Scott Dierking]

because if it's one thing firing coaches guarantees, it's that the team will get better. Just ask Tony Sparano! 

Also, if it's another thing, if it is not working, it is always wise to stick with it. 

[bitonti]

Also, if it's another thing, if it is not working, it is always wise to stick with it. 

 

Historically there are only 3 Jets coaches over .500. Parcells, Groh (9-7 in one year) and Rex. He's the 3rd winning-est Jets HC ever. He also has the most playoff wins of any Jets coach.  And the most playoff games.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_Jets_head_coaches

 

Define "not working"  and for a bonus tell us someone better than rex who would take the job.