jetsfanbkny Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Would have and definetly could have easily won that game. and yea i get it its to early to say do the switch but watching him behind 2nd and 3rd stringers in the pre season lighting it up he should have beaten out Smith in the pre season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 not for nothing but even with the interceptions Geno was not the reason we lost last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 not for nothing but even with the interceptions Geno was not the reason we lost last night. Not the only reason, but he was a reason. Especially the last int was awful. It was a game killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 disagree. there were 38 seconds left and the Jets had given me no reason to think they could get down the field at that point. and if they had, the game would have been well in hand by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 disagree. there were 38 seconds left and the Jets had given me no reason to think they could get down the field at that point. and if they had, the game would have been well in hand by that point. uhm that is because he threw 2 other int Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 uhm that is because he threw 2 other int uhm no it's not. the end of the 4th was bad for Geno. the rest of the time our receivers couldn't catch a cold. we had plenty of blown chances earlier in the game that weren't on Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 uhm no it's not. the end of the 4th was bad for Geno. the rest of the time our receivers couldn't catch a cold. we had plenty of blown chances earlier in the game that weren't on Geno. Including 1 TD drop from Gates, another drop from Gates inside the 10, and a fumble from hill around midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 uhm no it's not. the end of the 4th was bad for Geno. the rest of the time our receivers couldn't catch a cold. we had plenty of blown chances earlier in the game that weren't on Geno. Correct. It was not a favorable combo for a kid who, already having trouble seeing downfield and not confident to force anything that didn't look perfect. We catch 1/3 of the drops last night, we have a W, and probably less 4th qtr turnovers. Actually if anything, knowing that the game was over regardless, I am glad the kid went for it and didn't give a crap about his line. Compare 3 quarters of conservative work with the 4th trying to win that game,especially the last 5-7 minutes. Big difference in attitude. He'll learn how to manage a disciplined two minute comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The WR's certainly get a tip of the hat from Belichik but the game is on Smith. He had a QBR of 15. He certainly had his good moments, and nice (dropped) throws, but the end was horrific. We'll see how he improves during the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 1) He had like six or seven drops PLUS the fumble. The game plays out much differently if those catches are made. 2) The run game was working. Marty didn't think so, apparently. 3) The kid made some beautiful throws. Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 All the factors that go into the loss are not some sort of either or situations. Everybody else does not have to play perfectly in order to get a win because the Qb threw three interceptions with the game on the line in the fourth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 People need to get over this infatuation with Simms. The only way the kid plays is if Geno gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 All the factors that go into the loss are not some sort of either or situations. Everybody else does not have to play perfectly in order to get a win because the Qb threw three interceptions with the game on the line in the fourth quarter. play perfectly? how about catch any of the multiple passes that hit you in the chest and hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 not for nothing but even with the interceptions Geno was not the reason we lost last night. You're right, It was not the interception. It was Geno as a whole that lost that game. Geno has to work really hard to become a middle of the mill backup. It was not a surprise he slipped to the second round and it also wasn't because he slipped through the cracks. The better QB was on the bench. We all know that Rex will throw away yet another season before making the correct choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That last INT was so Sanchez - like it was crazy....underthrowing a come back route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That last INT was so Sanchez - like it was crazy....underthrowing a come back route. Lol it would help if Hill knew he was running a comeback route. Then it wouldn't have been overthrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You're right, It was not the interception. It was Geno as a whole that lost that game. Geno has to work really hard to become a middle of the mill backup. It was not a surprise he slipped to the second round and it also wasn't because he slipped through the cracks. The better QB was on the bench. We all know that Rex will throw away yet another season before making the correct choice. oh please. will all the members of Matt Simms' family please stand up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That last INT was so Sanchez - like it was crazy....underthrowing a come back route. Lol it would help if Hill knew he was running a comeback route. Then it wouldn't have been overthrown. Geno could've thrown the ball better; out of bounds where only his guy could get it. Hill could've been in a better position to catch the ball; between the ball and the defender. My beef: WHY EVEN THROW TO HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE?! The game is close. No timeouts. We need 50 yards to be in FG range; which is still questionable given the weather. Coming back is near-impossible, and EVERYthing needs to go right for us to win the game on that last drive. Why go to the WR who was already missing on the big plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 oh please. will all the members of Matt Simms' family please stand up? You must be new to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Would have and definetly could have easily won that game. and yea i get it its to early to say do the switch but watching him behind 2nd and 3rd stringers in the pre season lighting it up he should have beaten out Smith in the pre season? By the way, you don't get to use "would have" and "could have" to serve the same purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yo, we gotta get this Ratliff kid some live reps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yo, we gotta get this Ratliff kid some live reps! Al Woodall Rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You must be new to football. you must be Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That last INT was so Sanchez - like it was crazy....underthrowing a come back route. when Mark throws an INT it's break the tv time. when Geno throws the same INT it's learning. #koolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 uhm no it's not. the end of the 4th was bad for Geno. the rest of the time our receivers couldn't catch a cold. we had plenty of blown chances earlier in the game that weren't on Geno. I give it two more games before people stop making excuses for Geno. Sanchez had the same receivers and better results and we still killed him for his poor performance (and rightfully so). Geno played poorly. He got picked three times and didn't throw a TD pass, took huge sacks, didn't pull the trigger on open receivers, under threw and threw late. He needed to score more than 13 points to beat the Patriots. He couldn't. He sucked and he is the reason for the loss. Receivers could've helped him, but he could've put the ball in the right place a few more times too. He waits for the WR to get open, then throws it while the WR waits for the ball, and the hit. When he starts hitting receivers in stride, they'll stop dropping so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Would have and definetly could have easily won that game. and yea i get it its to early to say do the switch but watching him behind 2nd and 3rd stringers in the pre season lighting it up he should have beaten out Smith in the pre season? Wondering why other teams haven't caught on. As we seem to be dead-set on keeping Smith in there, why aren't the phones ringing off the hook with trade offers from all the NFL GMs who saw what you saw in pre-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 obvious troll is obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yo, we gotta get this Ratliff kid some live reps! I don't think the discussion is about whether Simms is going to come in and have the kind of game his Dad had in the Super Bowl, but rather, is he going to make 5 turnovers, take 9 sacks, while only scoring 1 TD in 2 games? I don't see any reason to think that Smith is better then Simms. Draft spot? The next step in a week or two could easily be Brady Quinn. I'd rather see Simms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I don't think the discussion is about whether Simms is going to come in and have the kind of game his Dad had in the Super Bowl, but rather, is he going to make 5 turnovers, take 9 sacks, while only scoring 1 TD in 2 games? I don't see any reason to think that Smith is better then Simms. Draft spot? The next step in a week or two could easily be Brady Quinn. I'd rather see Simms This is why I'm hoping Geno improves. He's still young and it's early, but after awhile, the excuses get a big old. It's one thing to have 4 TDs and a bunch of picks and INTs. It's another to not be able to score points. The Jets offense continues to be a team who can't score. We hated all the OC and Sanchez for this for years. Now with Geno and MM, people are just making excuses. Lets hope as the season goes on we see an improvement. It's not about W's to me, while that would be nice, it's more about the team and the offense actually improving. I mean if they go all season where most games are 17-10 nail bitters and it's because of the defense, that doesn't bode well for the future. People hate to admit it, but firing Rex Ryan will definitely mean the defense takes a step back next year. The guy knows defense. So if the offense stinks this year, what the hell gives us hope the entire team would be better next if MM and Geno are still around and the defense takes a step back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 two games into his NFL career and people are practically declaring him a bust. I hate Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 two games into his NFL career and people are practically declaring him a bust. I hate Jets fans. No, they're saying he played like sh*t. Because they have eyes. Bustdom is a ways off. He'll play better or he'll be a bust. But enough of the Geno strokinig already. He doesn't deserve praise. He hasn't erned it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 No, they're saying he played like sh*t. Because they have eyes. Bustdom is a ways off. He'll play better or he'll be a bust. But enough of the Geno strokinig already. He doesn't deserve praise. He hasn't erned it yet. Love it. Anyone who isn't sh*tting all over the guy is "Geno stroking" because...oh right, Jets fans are completely unreasonable. Stop sh*tting all over the guy because he didn't beat the Patriots in New England in his second NFL game in the pouring rain with a receiving corps that played like garbage the entire game and an OC who refused to run the ball. Smith played okay. Not GREAT, and he blew it in the fourth, made ROOKIE mistakes. But the level of expectations are completely f*cking unreasonable. What was everyone expecting? That Mark Sanchez would be on the bench and it was Super Bowl from here on out? Everyone paying attention KNEW he wasn't ready before this season started, and I'm sorry, but I blame our receivers a lot more than Geno's fourth for the fact they lost last night. Chances are good that if our receivers do their jobs in quarters 1-3, those stupid passes don't get thrown and those INTs don't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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