T0mShane Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The Great Mike Florio aside, teams and their coaches are always judged against expectations. Always. Ryan is actually falling victim to that this season, as expectations were raised due to a better than expected start. I predicted 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Ben Tate was a 2nd rounder? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 We will all get a C. Half of us will pass and half of us will fail. The answer is obviously 2, meaning 3. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Ben Tate was a 2nd rounder? Damn. Wasn't he coming off an injury in college - probably could have gone earlier. He was supposed to inherit that RB job when he got healthy or something like that, but then Foster came from out of nowhere with his Priest Holmes impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 The Great Mike Florio aside, teams and their coaches are always judged against expectations. Always. Ryan is actually falling victim to that this season, as expectations were raised due to a better than expected start. Then what did the past 2 losing seasons do for said expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I predicted 7-9 Specifically to leave yourself room to bitch in the future, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Then what did the past 2 losing seasons do for said expectations? Are you counting 8-8 as a losing season for Rex again? At least you're consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Are you counting 8-8 as a losing season for Rex again? At least you're consistent. It was intended to be cheeky, picking up on the bit from earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Someone should tell Crusher that when players are hurt and not playing, they aren't helping the team. This seems lost on him. Write it in bacon, there's a small chance he'lll subconsciously absorb the idea as he engulfs the bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I remember when Gary Kubiak had a Darrell Bevell-like buzz around him. Except Kubiak accomplished way more as an OC than Bevell ever has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 It was intended to be cheeky, picking up on the bit from earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Specifically to leave yourself room to bitch in the future, but yeah. Not at all. I could bitch regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Not at all. False I could bitch regardless. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 False True I'm glad you and Sperm think I'm so Machiavellian. It's a tremendous compliment. When Rex is D-coordinating the Chargers next year, I'll feel like I really played a part in his demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Oh, a prediction from Bit. Is this from the less mature Bit of 10 years ago, who tried to root players on despite performance that said otherwise, or the more, wiser Bit of today? um unless i have a time machine it's pretty clear who's making the post san dimas high school football rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 LOL GFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 um unless i have a time machine it's pretty clear who's making the post san dimas high school football rules! The pom pon cheering Rex fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The pom pon cheering Rex fan? Im a Jets fan. I root for the Jets. Who the F do you root for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Actually, this will be his 3rd losing season in 8 years. 5/8 winning seasons. Rex has had 3 losing seasons in 5 years. 2/5 winning seasons. Kubiak is coming off of going 22-10 over 2012 and 2011. Rex is coming off of going 11-17 in that same span. Who's the moron? And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Im a Jets fan. I root for the Jets. Who the F do you root for? I root for whoever's playing the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. And Kubiak did it with a sh*t defense, it works both ways. And Rex and Kubiak are to blame for the sh*t offense and sh*t defense respectively. Both should be fired. One down............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And Kubiak did it with a sh*t defense, it works both ways. And Rex and Kubiak are to blame for the sh*t offense and sh*t defense respectively. Both should be fired. One down............ sh*t defense? Did they have the worst defense over the last 8 years? Not even close. They have some really good defenders, just like Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And Kubiak did it with a sh*t defense. The Texans had the fourth rated defense in 2011, and the 10th last year. When did Rex ever have an offense that was ranked that high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. Schaub was a 4 time pro-bowler? Wow, the AFC is that devoid of good Qbs, or did Peyton, Brady, Luck, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Flacco, and Dalton all have guest appearences on Leno scheduled that week? I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. Actually, 2nd worse Qb play in the league over that time frame. Cleveland had a 70.8, and the Jets had a 70.9 BUT this was before GENOS single digit performance this past weekend, so probably if you factor that in, that I would assume that the Jets are now the worst over that span. Theirs something as Jet Fans we can pound our chests about being first in something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The Texans had the fourth rated defense in 2011, and the 10th last year. When did Rex ever have an offense that was ranked that high? Is this a trick question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why is that? Schuab is Sanchez like bad. Don't be silly Kubiak was always over rated IMO he's Norv Turner lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. Funny Rex actually had good QB play in the playoffs. Once again it was his vaunted defense that sh*t the bed in both AFCCG games. Funny I remember some Jets fans Recently saying if Rex just got decent QB play we would have won 2 SB's ..... Steelers AFCCG - sh*t bed in first half, Team making comeback in second half and defense could not get the big stop on 3rd and long. The Pats and Ravens and Giants defenses would have got those stops Colts AFCCG - Jets take 17-6 lead defense then sh*ts bed totally and gives up points on nearly every drive thereafter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 What would this teams record be if Geno had Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Andre Johnson, and Owen Daniels? what if Sanchez had them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Imagine Rex taking low-round and UDFA'S like Foster, Tate and Daniels and turning them into high-end players. That's an unrealistic scenario, we need room on the roster for Joe McKnight and Rugby guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Imagine Rex taking low-round and UDFA'S like Foster, Tate and Daniels and turning them into high-end players. Tate was a second round pick as a RB in the 2000's, he was a really good prospect. Daniels was the first pick of the fourth round. Foster opened the season as the top senior RB prospect in the draft (IIRC) and a second round grade. http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2009/4/21/846583/unfortunate-events-arian-foster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 And how many playoff seasons did he have in 8 years? How about playoff victories? Let me tell u. He is 2/8 in making the playoffs (25%) and 2-2 (50%) in playoffs. Rex is 2/5 in making the playoffs (40%) and 4-2 (67%) in playoffs. And Rex has done this with possibly THE worst offense through that time span with THE worst QB play in the league while Kubiak had the luxury of a 4-time pro bowl QB. LOL It cracks me up how quick people are to defend Rex over Kubiak getting fired. Kubiak was coming off of two winning seasons, had a talented team loaded and ready to go, and they all got hurt... and they fired him. He's vastly out-performed Rex the past 2 seasons. Hard to compare this year given Kubiak's stroke or whatever and all their injuries, and Rex's circumstances aren't totally fair to him. My point was an is, coaches get fired for way less that the failures Rex has had the past 3 seasons. So, maybe a 4th and 5th year of excuse-making for him is excessive? Perhaps? I dunno... since a franchise that actually has expectations of winning can fire a coach who has been mostly successful in the past 3 years after ONE down year, you'd think our franchise IF it cared about winning would fire a coach who hasn't been successful at all during those same 3 years. It's just logic. I don't expect most of you to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 What would this teams record be if Geno had Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Andre Johnson, and Owen Daniels? I love this question as it begs much further study? The easy answer of course is that , sure we would have abetter record as these are far better weapons than we have, but are they? On the surface, of course, BUT in the Jets system, would they be? and would we be screaming that our offense stinks because we have no weapons? OR The bigger question is, if they are far better weapons, then why dont we have better weapons? Is it because, maybe we do and REX and his archaic offensive systems either doesnt develop offensive weapons or do great offensive weapons actually get stifled in this system? OR If they are better weapons and ours are just awful, then why does this coaching staff and organization GET better weapons? Are they just too stubborn and would rather have weapons on defense? Are they afraid to draft REAL weapons and plug them into a horrible system? Its so easy to say, Yeah Geno would be performing better, with this teams or that teams weapons, but in reality would he? I am not so sure, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Someone should tell Crusher that when players are hurt and not playing, they aren't helping the team. This seems lost on him. Rex has coached a team of injured receivers and tight ends to being in the playoff hunt up to a week ago. Like a freaking miracle worker Ape breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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