Lizard King Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So for all the heartbreak, the missed wildcard (which we at one point controlled), the "over achievement" of the crappy roster, guess what....we have 5,000 draft picks and we still aren't in the top 10. Hope our new GM and scouting department are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 dont worry man we still have another 2 games to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 dont worry man we still have another 2 games to lose Exactly, and we got more help last night by Pittsburgh winning. This weeks game with Cleveland is "huge" for draft position possibilities. The Rams (via Wash) and Atlants are certainly NOT taking QB's. The Vikes, Titans and the Bills (especially) could all "catch" the Jets. If things fall right, we could easily make it to picking in the 6-8 range, and then with all our picks, easily make a deal to move up and get that QB we want. This next game with Cleveland is the key for 6-10 season and a top 6 to 8 pick. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Its ok we will have a lot of money to spend in free agency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Outside of Bridgewater, Lewan and Clowney, it's a pretty even shake from 4-15 or so, not sure we're losing out on anyone in particular, except for Watkins possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What pick do we have at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What pick do we have at this point? 13. and even if they lose out they probably can't crack the top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 13. and even if they lose out they probably can't crack the top 10 In all honesty, we're probably better off picking in the teens, if only because our history of picks in the top ten are horrendous. Just recent top ten picks off the top of my head: - DRob - Gholston - Sanchez - Brick - Milliner That's a whole lot of fail right there (with the exception of Brick). Go back further and it gets worse. Meanwhile our recent picks in the teens: - John Abraham - Shaun Ellis - Chad Pennington - Santana Moss - Jonathan Vilma - Darrell Revis - Quinton Coples - Sheldon Richardson Not a bust in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 13. and even if they lose out they probably can't crack the top 10 Yee of little faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Outside of Bridgewater, Lewan and Clowney, it's a pretty even shake from 4-15 or so, not sure we're losing out on anyone in particular, except for Watkins possibly. You forgot Barr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In all honesty, we're probably better off picking in the teens, if only because our history of picks in the top ten are horrendous. Just recent top ten picks off the top of my head: - DRob - Gholston - Sanchez - Brick - Milliner That's a whole lot of fail right there (with the exception of Brick). Go back further and it gets worse. Meanwhile our recent picks in the teens: - John Abraham - Shaun Ellis - Chad Pennington - Santana Moss - Jonathan Vilma - Darrell Revis - Quinton Coples - Sheldon Richardson Not a bust in there. So, anyone wearing a green tie and using a phone in the shape of a Jet helmet is horrible at drafting super early but great at drafting a little later. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Dont need it, we got Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You forgot Barr True. I was merely trying to point out that we weren't going to be one of those top 4 or 5 pick teams, so outside of Watkins I'm not seeing much of a difference between picking 9 or 14 for our needs. Truth be told, and I know you're big on him too, Cooks may be the most explosive WR outside of Watkins in this draft, so I still think we're going to have a very solid selection of players when we're on the clock in both the first and second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 A lot of WR's this year . Benjamin and Greene from FSU could immediately start here. Well basically anyone could but still....losing out on Sammy won't be the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So, anyone wearing a green tie and using a phone in the shape of a Jet helmet is horrible at drafting super early but great at drafting a little later. Got it. Not saying that. Just showing that our track record in the top ten sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 In all honesty, we're probably better off picking in the teens, if only because our history of picks in the top ten are horrendous. Just recent top ten picks off the top of my head: - DRob - Gholston - Sanchez - Brick - Milliner That's a whole lot of fail right there (with the exception of Brick). Go back further and it gets worse. Meanwhile our recent picks in the teens: - John Abraham - Shaun Ellis - Chad Pennington - Santana Moss - Jonathan Vilma - Darrell Revis - Quinton Coples - Sheldon Richardson Not a bust in there. Penningbust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 A lot of WR's this year . Benjamin and Greene from FSU could immediately start here. Well basically anyone could but still....losing out on Sammy won't be the end of the world. Definitely. There's probably about 12 guys coming out right now who could step in and start for us right now. Sammy and Cooks are the two guys who I watch that explode off the screen. I've seen a lot of Evans and while he's got that basketball Jimmy Graham thing going for him, I'm still leery about whether he can bring it to the next level. Either way, between the WRs and Amaro/Ebron/ASJ, there's going to be someone to bring in who can immediately start to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Penningbust LOL I know. The worst of those picks. But still not as bad as Gholston or DSlob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 6 out of those 10 teams desperately need a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Definitely. There's probably about 12 guys coming out right now who could step in and start for us right now. Sammy and Cooks are the two guys who I watch that explode off the screen. I've seen a lot of Evans and while he's got that basketball Jimmy Graham thing going for him, I'm still leery about whether he can bring it to the next level. Either way, between the WRs and Amaro/Ebron/ASJ, there's going to be someone to bring in who can immediately start to contribute. Yep. I love love Evans but is he Mike Williams?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Penningbust Pennington would only be considered a bust to a complete jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Good point, Pennington was amazing, I think he was the most accurate passer I've seen, if he didn't blow out his arm I take him over Brady, also Farve never actually beat Pennington, his ten wins for Mangini year one also brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Pennington would only be considered a bust to a complete jackass. He's a bust, and you are an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 6 out of those 10 teams desperately need a QB. Definitely a problem. That is why I am hoping that a couple of those teams "leap frog" the Jets to behind them and then the cost of moving up one or 2 spots wont be as extravagantly high as if we needed to move many spots. If we finish 6-10, we are golden, 7-9 and we will have to pay a bit for moving, and 8-8 and we are toast. That is why this upcoming Cleveland game is so big to BOTH teams. Which is the "bigger" draw for the game? 1. Draft Position 2. Weeden vs. Smith (Scintillating) 3. Cementing Rex's fate on Black Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The REAL problem is that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft. Marcus Mariota was about the closest thing to one, but he is going back to Oregon, who are arguably better than the Jets. WR is THE priority for the Jets, no matter which one of our turnover prone, underachieving QB's they trot out there. OL would be next and DB's next. Of course, if Rex comes back we'll draft another DL with the first pick and make him another slow LB. Then he'll take a DB who can't cover anyone and makes up for it by not tackling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So for all the heartbreak, the missed wildcard (which we at one point controlled), the "over achievement" of the crappy roster, guess what....we have 5,000 draft picks and we still aren't in the top 10. Hope our new GM and scouting department are good. I'm really sorry that the Jets aren't one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Boo hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm really sorry that the Jets aren't one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Boo hoo. They arent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm really sorry that the Jets aren't one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Boo hoo. The Jets are better than the Texans and Raiders and Jags, but other than that they aren't exactly better than the other teams. And Atlanta and Houston have been surprise busts. Both teams could make some nice offseason moves and wind up back in the thick of things next season. The Bucs were supposed to be playoff contenders and just sucked. The Vikings have no QB,but still have AP. If the Jets don't find some talent on offense, Geno is still starting, and Rex is still here, it's going to be another one of those "Oh wow we were better than we expected, but still wound up 7-9." There is no improvement in struggling to get to 8 wins every year. Great, they aren't the worse team in the NFL, but this franchise has won how many division titles in 30+ years? It's kind of depressing. I mean I'd rather they were the Panthers a few seasons back and actually improve. Being 8-8 or fighting to be 8-8 and luck into the playoffs year in and year out is depressing. It's just a tease and every few years they 'rebuild' but never really rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm really sorry that the Jets aren't one of the 10 worst teams in the league. Boo hoo. As long as you're happy, that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 True. I was merely trying to point out that we weren't going to be one of those top 4 or 5 pick teams, so outside of Watkins I'm not seeing much of a difference between picking 9 or 14 for our needs. Truth be told, and I know you're big on him too, Cooks may be the most explosive WR outside of Watkins in this draft, so I still think we're going to have a very solid selection of players when we're on the clock in both the first and second round. Yes Cooks in the 2nd would make me smile! Pair him up with Manziel/Bortles, and Dri Archer, hopefully one offensive piece in free agency, (maybe J Maclin if MM is still here) and you got yourself a nice start on an offensive rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 He's a bust, and you are an idiot. Hate-able? Sure. A bust? No. Not to anyone being logical. He must have stolen your cherry, it's the only explanation for this much butthurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 move to draft section or else im gonna start posting draft threads in the main board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 move to draft section or else im gonna start posting draft threads in the main board. Are you really that much of a child where you would spite the board solely to make a point? I mean jesus dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 He's a bust, and you are an idiot. Your credentials have been revoked. You will now be called Whiny Bitch for your use of gross overstatements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The REAL problem is that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft. Marcus Mariota was about the closest thing to one, but he is going back to Oregon, who are arguably better than the Jets. WR is THE priority for the Jets, no matter which one of our turnover prone, underachieving QB's they trot out there. OL would be next and DB's next. Of course, if Rex comes back we'll draft another DL with the first pick and make him another slow LB. Then he'll take a DB who can't cover anyone and makes up for it by not tackling well. Odds are good for at least one or two becoming a franchise QB. Wish is was as easy as already knowing which one. But it's why team GMs make a sh*t load of money, and it's why if they pick wrong, like Tannenbaum, they're out of a job. Jets have yet to like, ever pick one since the 60's. Hence the zero superbowls since. Gotta hope they finally get it right if they go that route and it's pretty hard to reason that they shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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