section314 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 that sounds like a rational well thought out analysis Is this rational enough.....in any sport you don't take your best players off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 How much of his pay will go to Mo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 How much of his pay will go to Mo? All of it I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is this rational enough.....in any sport you don't take your best players off the field? I get your point, but even if coples lined up on the DL he'd be the 5th man anyway, he's just not a good fit for this defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Why not try and trade him before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Why not try and trade him before the deadline. he's got talent, but he doesn't always show up in the box score either like in the indy game. I don't think we'd really get much for coples so might as well keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm not sold on the fact that this is Bowles' finished product. Coples has barely played before yesterday, I doubt he wanted to see rookie mistakes against a superior team. Not saying Coples is good, because he's dogsh*t, but he's proven to at least get some hurries. I'm sure we'll see more Mauldin and Reilly against inferior teams like the Jags, Texans, etc. He'll work the young guys in, see what worked well, and what didn't work, and we'll play them harder next time. By that time I'm sure Coples will be the full-time backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I really was focused on him on only 1 play and haven't watched it again yet. But he got shoved out of the play, away from Brady, with relative ease. And it was like the only non-holding from a NE blocker all game. He is as soft as freshly baked bread. If he was here I'd tell him to his bitch face. His sorority should have branded him with a zero instead of burning that hideous thing onto his arm. A zero brand, right over where his heart should theoretically be located. this could be you're greatest post ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm pretty sure that he has been dealing with a fairly significant elbow injury, but don't let that get in the way of the agenda. Maccagnan didn't draft him, but he did exercise the $7M option for next year. That does not mean much, but it indicates that they are at least interested in seeing what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I really was focused on him on only 1 play and haven't watched it again yet. But he got shoved out of the play, away from Brady, with relative ease. And it was like the only non-holding from a NE blocker all game. He is as soft as freshly baked bread. If he was here I'd tell him to his bitch face. His sorority should have branded him with a zero instead of burning that hideous thing onto his arm. A zero brand, right over where his heart should theoretically be located. i lol all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 This guy is the biggest enigma or enima on this team. Talk about a disappearing act. No way he gets resigned, he's slow, makes no plays it's like he's just some guy out there. This was a bad 1st round pick. Thanks again Rex. I said that when they picked him. He is a 4-3 DE and the Jets decided that there is "no difference" between the 4-3 and the 3-4. So stick him at end in the 3-4 and he does little or nothing. So, then make him a LB but he can't drop into coverage and isn't athletic enough to do anything but rush the passer which he almost does well. Poor selection by Mike Tannenbaum and Rex, but hey they made a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 lest we all forgot that coples had 5.5 sacks in his rookie year playing very limited snaps on the d-line. i would like to see how wilks, Richardson, or Williams fair, asked to drop 50 pounds and play a position that they don't have the physical make up to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 lest we all forgot that coples had 5.5 sacks in his rookie year playing very limited snaps on the d-line. i would like to see how wilks, Richardson, or Williams fair, asked to drop 50 pounds and play a position that they don't have the physical make up to play Actually in Coples first 2 years he had more sacks then Mo did in his first 2 and Mo started 31 games to 15 for Coples.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Coples weighs 235? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I said that when they picked him. He is a 4-3 DE and the Jets decided that there is "no difference" between the 4-3 and the 3-4. So stick him at end in the 3-4 and he does little or nothing. So, then make him a LB but he can't drop into coverage and isn't athletic enough to do anything but rush the passer which he almost does well. Poor selection by Mike Tannenbaum and Rex, but hey they made a lot of them. Coples isn't athletic enough to play 4-3 end either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Coples weighs 235? a little exaggeration on my part. coples was playing d-line at about 290-295. i think he is playing at 265 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 a little exaggeration on my part. coples was playing d-line at about 290-295. i think he is playing at 265 right now Remember when Hermie told Ellis to gain weight and switch to DT?? That didn't last long.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Remember when Hermie told Ellis to gain weight and switch to DT?? That didn't last long.. why yes i do. thanx for making me remember that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Remember when Hermie told Ellis to gain weight and switch to DT?? That didn't last long.. remember when wilks got hurt and coples filled in for him? 265 pound guy filling in for a 315 pound guy with very little drop off. yea, lets cut this guy instead of fixing rex's dumb olb experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think the people that think Coples is Justin Tuck forced to play OLB are going to be sorely disappointed when his peg gets stuffed in whatever hole they think it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 remember when wilks got hurt and coples filled in for him? 265 pound guy filling in for a 315 pound guy with very little drop off. yea, lets cut this guy instead of fixing rex's dumb olb experiment Remember how some fans hated Pouha his first couple of years and called him a 3rd rd bust?? At least Rex had him playing well and yep when turf toe Mo was out there was no drop off. Coples led the team in QB hits last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think the people that think Coples is Justin Tuck forced to play OLB are going to be sorely disappointed when his peg gets stuffed in whatever hole they think it fits. but we all have seen the proper hole to stuff this peg. some just refuse to admit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 remember when wilks got hurt and coples filled in for him? 265 pound guy filling in for a 315 pound guy with very little drop off. yea, lets cut this guy instead of fixing rex's dumb olb experiment who does he replace on the DL? Which starter? Who gets cut to make room for a guy who has proven nothing as a lineman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 who does he replace on the DL? Which starter? Who gets cut to make room for a guy who has proven nothing as a lineman? Something is really fishy why Mo hasn't been signed he must be asking for way much more then someone with comparable stats is worth.. I wish his agent would talk to the media.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Something is really fishy why Mo hasn't been signed he must be asking for way much more then someone with comparable stats is worth.. I wish his agent would talk to the media.. Could be he asked for crazy money. But no real proof that they are or aren't negotiating right now. Don't know that we're going to hear anything about negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 who does he replace on the DL? Which starter? Who gets cut to make room for a guy who has proven nothing as a lineman? that's the problem. he has proven something when he plays on the d-line. its when he plays olb where he has proven nothing. as far as replacing, trading, or cutting, well, that's up to the front office. i have my theories but the fact remains that coples is an asset as a d-lineman. he is a liability at olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 that's the problem. he has proven something when he plays on the d-line. its when he plays olb where he has proven nothing. as far as replacing, trading, or cutting, well, that's up to the front office. but the fact remains that coples is an asset as a d-lineman. he is a liability at olb Actually he provides,no asset to the DL. The DL is great and deep. What are we going to do cut a Doozable to make room for a guy who really hasn't shown that much,and will cost more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Could be he asked for crazy money. But no real proof that they are or aren't negotiating right now. Don't know that we're going to hear anything about negotiations. Mo said once the season starts he won't negotiate so it won't be this year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 that's the problem. he has proven something when he plays on the d-line. its when he plays olb where he has proven nothing. as far as replacing, trading, or cutting, well, that's up to the front office. i have my theories but the fact remains that coples is an asset as a d-lineman. he is a liability at olb When Coples is a 290 he's better at DT then DE.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 When Coples is a 290 he's better at DT then DE.. i have been saying this since he was drafted. he is best suited playing the interior on a 4 man line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mo said once the season starts he won't negotiate so it won't be this year.. That's why I figured there isn't any news on the negotiations front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Actually he provides,no asset to the DL. The DL is great and deep. What are we going to do cut a Doozable to make room for a guy who really hasn't shown that much,and will cost more? the entire d-line crew, coples included, are assets. what the front office plans to do with those assets next year, remains to be seen. one d-lineman in particular is waiting on his big payday. but so far, the front office is reluctant to give it to him. so who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I imagine something like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 the entire d-line crew, coples included, are assets. what the front office plans to do with those assets next year, remains to be seen. one d-lineman in particular is waiting on his big payday. but so far, the front office is reluctant to give it to him. so who knows just saying if you move Coples to DL someone has to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 just saying if you move Coples to DL someone has to go there are a lot of decisions to be made by mac during the offseason, specifically, the d-line. very crowded but very talented. however, they are all not without issues 1. mo wilks- squeaky clean player. some say he disappears at times, but imo, he brings it more often than not. problem appears to be with money. only thing we have heard is that the 2 sides are too far apart. trade value is high 2. Sheldon Richardson- found himself in trouble twice this year. great player but can he be relied on to play without another suspension? he is cheap enough and the jets control him for another 2 1/2 years. trade value took a hit with the trouble he has had 3. leonard Williams- great prospect but still has a lot to prove before he is considered an every down force. not going anywhere 4. damon Harrison- another great player, but is only a 2 down player. he is also looking for a new contract. limited trade value 5. Quinton coples- huge disappointment at olb. he just isn't. proven, although limited, that he can play the d-line. he will also be looking for a contract shortly, but should come a lot cheaper than wilks. limited trade value lots of pros and cons for mac to consider come the offseason. lets hope he makes the right decisions. I cant see all 5 players returning next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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