Jetster Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Butlers agent is smiling ear to ear! He's a restricted free agent after this season & after Norman just got 50 million, Butler is gonna be looking to get PAID! He's making $600,000 in 2016, lol. How much better is Norman than Butler? $49,400,000? LMAO! That's gonna be fun to watch. Many, many people touted him as a top 5 CB in the league last year. So you'll have Butler, Collins, Hightower, all wanting to get paid, plus Bennett will be a free agent again. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 they don't pay for talent, they pay for ernie's "research" c'mon man..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Butler will start a small start up selling a plant derivative anti inflammation tonic that the patriots will distribute to their players and it will yield roughly $49,4000,000 over the next four years. Recommended by Dr. Circumvent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I don't think Butler is any where's near as good as Norman. Norman is also a different kind of corner though. He presents things to the field that Butler doesn't. Butler can't pay the zone nearly as well. Norman can play Tampa 2 or he can man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Butlers agent is smiling ear to ear! He's a restricted free agent after this season & after Norman just got 50 million, Butler is gonna be looking to get PAID! He's making $600,000 in 2016, lol. How much better is Norman than Butler? $49,400,000? LMAO! That's gonna be fun to watch. Many, many people touted him as a top 5 CB in the league last year. So you'll have Butler, Collins, Hightower, all wanting to get paid, plus Bennett will be a free agent again. Love it. Pats will either trade Butler or just let him hit FA. Resigning Collins and Hightower are far more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If he is a RFA, then they will tender him, and either trade him or have him on the cheap for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If he is a RFA, then they will tender him, and either trade him or have him on the cheap for another year. Nah, the Pats will just pay him $17MM per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 41 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Pats will either trade Butler or just let him hit FA. Resigning Collins and Hightower are far more important. Agreed..The only reason people even know Butler is because Pete Carroll is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 some other team will end up over paying him and he will end up being a mediocre CB in the league when he is off the Patriots roster. He wont get away with as much holding and interference on another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 some other team will end up over paying him and he will end up being a mediocre CB in the league when he is off the Patriots roster. You mean like Revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Just now, PatsFanTX said: You mean like Revis? Don't start comparing Butler to Revis it is way to soon for that. I will take an old worn down Revis over a fresh young Butler any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Butler had 1 game where he earned MVP Butler/Holmes 2 of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Don't start comparing Butler to Revis it is way to soon for that. I will take an old worn down Revis over a fresh young Butler any day. Sure you would, you are a Jets fan. Jets are paying Revis $17MM and the Pats are paying Butler $600,000. Yep, old worn out Revis is definitely worth that coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 This won't affect NEP at all because they were never going to pay Butler at that rate anyways. They did give Devin McCourtey a big contract with about 28.5 mil guaranteed very unusual for BB. Bui they thought McCourtey was essential to their defense. He basically calls signals and sets up players and knows the D Belichick wants on the field in different situations. They had no one who could duplicate that so they paid him. With the Patriots it's as much mental as it is physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Sure you would, you are a Jets fan. Jets are paying Revis $17MM and the Pats are paying Butler $600,000. Yep, old worn out Revis is definitely worth that coin. someone else will be paying Butler close to that amount soon. Revis is a future hall of famer. Butler will be remembered as that nobody who got lucky and caught an interception thrown directly to him on what should have been a running play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Sure you would, you are a Jets fan. Jets are paying Revis $17MM and the Pats are paying Butler $600,000. Yep, old worn out Revis is definitely worth that coin. TX Butler is a nobody he made 1 key play to win the Super Bowl many never heard of the guy before this and before his MVP status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 44 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Decker TD on a perfectly thrown pass from Fitz smokes Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Look I've been ripping the Jets for overpaying Revis and killing our cap in 2016. He openly stated last year that he wanted a guaranteed 40 mil and Woody was the first to plunk it down. I think the reason was a reaction to the sniping by the press and fans during and after 2014 esp concerning us not signing an elite CB. IMO that was all coming from Rex who couldn't coach up a defense unless they had great corners. The funny thing is that a lot of other teams were able to get through seasons with injuries in their secondary forcing them to use practice squad players in starting positions and they did a lot better than Rex did. I'm hoping that Darrelle steps it up a notch in 2016 and is the great player he used to be. Last season he wasn't. But in terms of Butler, he can't hold Darrelle's jock strap. And I'd still take him over Norman who doesn't have the intangibles that Revis does. The Wash contract to Norman is one of the worst of all time. And like most Daniel Snyder overpaid players there's a great chance he doesn't like up to even close to that deal and the Redskins don't improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 TX Butler is a nobody he made 1 key play to win the Super Bowl many never heard of the guy before this and before his MVP status. Butler never won a Super Bowl MVP. He had a solid year last season for dirt cheap. Jets pay Revis $17MM and he's not even an All-Pro. SOJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 But in terms of Butler, he can't hold Darrelle's jock strap. And I'd still take him over Norman who doesn't have the intangibles that Revis does. Exactly what intangibles does Revis possess? The ability to give up 10-yard cushions and always needing safety help over the top? Norman is twice the CB that Revis is today. Stop living in the past, Revis is nowhere the player he was back in '09 and '10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Exactly what intangibles does Revis possess? The ability to give up 10-yard cushions and always needing safety help over the top? Norman is twice the CB that Revis is today. Stop living in the past, Revis is nowhere the player he was back in '09 and '10. Get a grip on reality. He had two bad games against two of the best WRs in football. At least one of those games was while injured. He played most of the season dinged up and injured. Other than those couple of games he gave up little and still is better, easily, than anyone your team throws out there. 10 yard cushions and needs safety help? OK Norman was toasted by O Beckham and others, doesnt play man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 40 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Exactly what intangibles does Revis possess? The ability to give up 10-yard cushions and always needing safety help over the top? Norman is twice the CB that Revis is today. Stop living in the past, Revis is nowhere the player he was back in '09 and '10. Like leadership on the field plus knowledge of the game. He knows how to get physical and mentally disarm opponents, too. Why do you think Belichick signed him for the 12 mil. He got a bargain and a chance to get one of the best D players in the NFL. But last year he did give up cushions and was beaten by esp younger and faster Wrs. Norman isn't that good. He got away with that crap with Beckham in one game. You're right though he is based on last season better than Revis. But I think in 2016 it will be reversed. If Revis is healthy. And Butler while good isn't in his stratosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Like leadership on the field plus knowledge of the game. He knows how to get physical and mentally disarm opponents, too. Why do you think Belichick signed him for the 12 mil. He got a bargain and a chance to get one of the best D players in the NFL. But last year he did give up cushions and was beaten by esp younger and faster Wrs. Norman isn't that good. He got away with that crap with Beckham in one game. You're right though he is based on last season better than Revis. But I think in 2016 it will be reversed. If Revis is healthy. And Butler while good isn't in his stratosphere. Teams will go after Revis this year instead of staying away from him. Always go after the weak link in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Teams will go after Revis this year instead of staying away from him. Always go after the weak link in the secondary. I think he will be improved but he is not a 16 mil player or close to it as Belichick knows. Too bad Woody didn't. Not Mac's fault on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think he will be improved but he is not a 16 mil player or close to it as Belichick knows. Too bad Woody didn't. Not Mac's fault on this one. Agree, that was all on Woody trying to save face with the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 24 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Agree, that was all on Woody trying to save face with the fans. As Belichick knows vintage Revis was better than any of these guys. I'm interested to see what he does in 2016. On smarts alone he's still a lot better than many of these corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 As Belichick knows vintage Revis was better than any of these guys. I'm interested to see what he does in 2016. On smarts alone he's still a lot better than many of these corners. Revis is (or was) a press coverage, man-to-man CB. Smarts alone will not help him there at all. That type of CB is all about physical skills, which are declining rather quickly in Revis' case. The complete opposite is Ty Law. Couldn't play man-to-man worth a crap but was phenomenal in zone coverage where he used his smarts to always jump routes. To this day, I'm still pissed the Pats let Law go to the Jets where he led the NFL in picks his first year with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 No hyperbole- our #2 WR dominated Butler last year. The jets actually had a play called "throw to decker anytime butler is covering him 1 on 1" and it worked every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 When you cheat even a scrub like Troy Brown can play CB. Ernie needs a raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 33 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Revis is (or was) a press coverage, man-to-man CB. Smarts alone will not help him there at all. That type of CB is all about physical skills, which are declining rather quickly in Revis' case. The complete opposite is Ty Law. Couldn't play man-to-man worth a crap but was phenomenal in zone coverage where he used his smarts to always jump routes. To this day, I'm still pissed the Pats let Law go to the Jets where he led the NFL in picks his first year with the Jets. I don't agree and you can ask Brandon Marshall about that. Revis would destroy his opponent mentally and physically. While Marshall is a strong dude he was outmatched by Revis in the mental and psychological aspects of the game. He would wear an opponent down plus he had the great coverage skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I don't agree and you can ask Brandon Marshall about that. Revis would destroy his opponent mentally and physically. While Marshall is a strong dude he was outmatched by Revis in the mental and psychological aspects of the game. He would wear an opponent down plus he had the great coverage skills. I still think Revis has something in the tank, but you are basically proving TX's point here by referring to everything about Revis in the past tense...."would destroy" "was outmatched" "would wear an opponent down" 'had the great coverage skills." Kind of what he is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I still think Revis has something in the tank, but you are basically proving TX's point here by referring to everything about Revis in the past tense...."would destroy" "was outmatched" "would wear an opponent down" 'had the great coverage skills." Kind of what he is saying. Thank you, that is exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 3 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Exactly what intangibles does Revis possess? The ability to give up 10-yard cushions and always needing safety help over the top? Norman is twice the CB that Revis is today. Stop living in the past, Revis is nowhere the player he was back in '09 and '10. I was agreeing with you on Revis declining as a player in a different thread and I also hate his contract but he's still comfortably a top 5 CB in the league. Just not the clear top 1 he was a few years ago. You lose credibility when you say Norman is twice the CB. I think that will become pretty obvious now he's out of Carolina. http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-jets-darrelle-revis-completion-percentage-stats-122915 Add that to the plays he made and it's simply absurd to suggest he isn't still and elite player, he's just an overpaid one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Butler? Lol. The guy is an average CB at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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