Cimini expects Jets to target Glennon

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

No, I provided you links and quotes from Bowles, describing actual events that really happened. This trumps your imagination of what didn't happen.

You didn't provide a single quote or link.   Not one.  Really, lol

Im not the one with the vivid imagination. 

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, thadude said:

Fitz/Geno/Petty all sucked terribly last season.  2 of those 3 had season ending injuries.  The fact that Hack couldn't even see the field with that dumpster fire above him on the depth chart speaks volumes

 

Sorry

 

I am sorry he wasn't prepared for that scenario.  But he wasn't. Sorry if you just don't seem to get that and want to draw pointless conclusions 

[JETSfan4life_1]

Why the love affair for this Glennon? He could not beat out Winston.  Isn't Petty just as good? why not give our young studs more playing time. 

[#27TheDominator]

8 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said:

Why the love affair for this Glennon? He could not beat out Winston.  Isn't Petty just as good? why not give our young studs more playing time. 

1. Not beating out Winston is very different than not beating out Fitzpatrick and Smith.

2. Because they are not studs. 

[Villain The Foe]

13 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said:

Why the love affair for this Glennon? He could not beat out Winston.  Isn't Petty just as good? why not give our young studs more playing time. 

lol. 

 

I love this place. 

[Dcat]

LOL.  We now have 2 threads and a combined 32 pages on Glennon, all of which basically say the same thing.  You can randomly select and read any one of the 32+  pages, and you'll know all you need to know about this debate.  

Can we set up an over/under contest on the number of repetitive Glennon pages we will wind up with?

[JETSfan4life_1]

22 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

lol. 

 

I love this place. 

the question i always need an answer to is why the JETS organization keep picking up trash?  if this Glennon is supposedly good/great he would not be warming the bench.  why draft all these QB's and don't give them playing time.  The JETS is not winning a superbowl anytime soon ( like maybe the next 15 years, we all have to face this reality) it's 46 years and i'm still waiting and there are those waiting longer done me.  so see why not play our baby stud QB's and seat back and watch the them grow, maybe we can hit that diamond in the rough @ Florham Park.  just sayin.......

[Dcat]

3 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said:

the question i always need an answer to is why the JETS organization keep picking up trash?  if this Glennon is supposedly good/great he would not be warming the bench.  why draft all these QB's and don't give them playing time.  The JETS is not winning a superbowl anytime soon ( like maybe the next 15 years, we all have to face this reality) it's 46 years and i'm still waiting and there are those waiting longer done me.  so see why not play our baby stud QB's and seat back and watch the them grow, maybe we can hit that diamond in the rough @ Florham Park.  just sayin.......

The Jets continually pick up free agent trash (i.e. Fitzpatrick) because the team (including all past GMs, HCs and talent evaluators) draft garbage year after year.  

[Augustiniak]

i can see mccags try to swap sheldon for glennon.  and sadly it may make sense.  

[Tinstar]

6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i can see mccags try to swap sheldon for glennon.  and sadly it may make sense.  

Is Glennon not a free agent where anyone  who wants to pay him can sign him .

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Is Glennon not a free agent where anyone  who wants to pay him can sign him .

ah, i forgot.  

[Dcat]

12 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i can see mccags try to swap sheldon for glennon.  and sadly it may make sense.  

I think Glennon is a FA

[#27TheDominator]

17 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Is Glennon not a free agent where anyone  who wants to pay him can sign him .

 

13 minutes ago, Dcat said:

I think Glennon is a FA

I would cut Sheldon and give him that $8m

[Charlie Brown]

6 hours ago, NYDreamer said:

http://www.profootballrumors.com/2017/02/afc-east-notes-jets-daniel-dolphins

AFC East Notes: Jets, Daniel, Dolphins

February 7th, 2017 at 1:54pm CST by Zach Links 

Jets head coach Todd Bowles loves the potential of pending free agent quarterback Mike Glennon, a team source tells Ralph Vacchiano of SNY. That jibes with “word on the street” from one month ago which indicated that the Jets will pursue the Bucs QB. Vacchiano adds that GM Mike Maccagnan inquired about trading for Glennon two years ago before the Jets got Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Jets’ interest in Glennon seems pretty certain, but it’s not clear if they’ll be able to sign him given their tight cap situation.

Thank you so much for this!!

Good news IMO.... at the very least it shows that the Jets are thinking!!!

[Dcat]

8 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you so much for this!!

Good news IMO.... at the very least it shows that the Jets are thinking!!!

Bowles speaking publicly prematurely yet again?  He did this last year with Fitz and it contributed to the problem. 

Todd Bowles: Stop talking to reporters.  

[Charlie Brown]

3 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Bowles speaking publicly prematurely yet again?  He did this last year with Fitz and it contributed to the problem. 

Todd Bowles: Stop talking to reporters.  

You are probably correct, but it wasn't Bowles who said it, it was a "team" source..... Custodians know the real deal....

In general the leaked report helped lower my personal anxiety which means it probably was the worst thing the Jets  could have done...  

[Tinstar]

11 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Bowles speaking publicly prematurely yet again?  He did this last year with Fitz and it contributed to the problem. 

Todd Bowles: Stop talking to reporters.  

Where does it say that Todd Bowles told this reporter or any reporter that he loves any free agent  ?  Don't worry, you'll get enough folks around here to like your post

 

[Dcat]

9 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Where does it say that Todd Bowles told this reporter or any reporter that he loves any free agent  ?  Don't worry, you'll get enough folks around here to like your post

 

If not Bowles, then he should try to find out just who is running his mouth to the press:

Quote

a team source tells Ralph Vacchiano of SNY. 

 

[Tinstar]

9 minutes ago, Dcat said:

If not Bowles, then he should try to find out just who is running his mouth to the press:

 

Then he can tell you so you know, is that right ?  Do you want to know what we know about what the Jets are thinking ?  Since you asked, all we know is what the reporters speculate and report as fact backed up by "a team source" to be named when the Jets make a  signing .

There, now you know .     

[Sperm Edwards]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

You didn't provide a single quote or link.   Not one.  Really, lol

Im not the one with the vivid imagination. 

Uh, I did. So you're wrong yet again:

On 2/7/2017 at 7:44 AM, Sperm Edwards said:

Todd Bowles: Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenberg could play before Jets are out of playoff race (October 26, 2016)

"Todd Bowles on Wednesday did not rule out perhaps playing Petty and/or Hackenberg before the Jets are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention -- even if starter Ryan Fitzpatrick remains healthy.

Bowles said he plans to decide on a backup for Jets-Browns in the next day or two. He said that while Petty and Hackenberg both got some first-team reps Wednesday, they did not receive equal reps overall. Bowles declined to say who got more reps. But he did say Petty is fully healthy again."

But here's more:

https://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/10/christian_hackenberg_bryce_petty_todd_bowles_not_n.html

 Now Fitzpatrick is the starter again. But behind him? Well, Bowles is waiting for things to settle a bit more before making that call. 

"It's something I'll have to discuss with the coaches," Bowles said. "We'll see what the game plan is and who fits what as far as us making that kind of decision."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/28/bowles-gets-testy-when-pressed-on-hackenberg-and-petty/

Bowles did say that both players practiced well this week, and that Hackenberg has gained ground on Petty because Petty missed several weeks of practice with an injury.

“They looked fine. Both of them are ready to play,” Bowles said.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/64330/jets-holding-no-2-qb-competition-bryce-petty-vs-christian-hackenberg

Jets hold No. 2 QB competition: Bryce Petty vs. Christian Hackenberg

Down to three quarterbacks, the Jets are holding a mini-competition this week to determine the No. 2 spot for Sunday. It's Petty versus Hackenberg. On Wednesday, they both took some reps with the first team (customary for the primary backup), but Bowles declined to say which player got more work. He'll make a decision by the end of the week.

 

And this is just where I got tired of looking & copying/pasting.

Hm...but you say there was no competition, and the #2 job was just handed to Petty without ever giving Hackenberg an opportunity. Your opinion is not very compelling, in light of every report that came out that said the polar opposite. And not once during all that time did Bowles state or even insinuate that it's Petty because this year is only a redshirt year for Hackenberg.

Oh, and here's this gem from Maccagnan:

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/jets-muddy-qb-picture-with-hackenberg-pick-petty-smith-in/article_e1e3810c-1104-11e6-a811-b7df7e02a9e1.html

Maccagnan also didn't rule out Hackenberg competing for the starting job this summer.

"We'll see where he's at," the GM said.

 

That's a far, far cry from your nonsense about everyone on the team openly stating "all year long" that Hackenberg would be redshirted for the entire season, with no opportunity to start (or even suit up), no matter what.

Are you now done attempting to argue this silly, obviously incorrect, narrative?

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Then he can tell you so you know, is that right ?  Do you want to know what we know about what the Jets are thinking ?  Since you asked, all we know is what the reporters speculate and report as fact backed up by "a team source" to be named when the Jets make a  signing .

There, now you know .     

Last year Bowles had  big mouth and it had an adverse affect. He and whoever the sauces are need to shut up.

[Tinstar]

3 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Last year Bowles had  big mouth and it had an adverse affect. He and whoever the sauces are need to shut up.

The man who paid more money than we will ever see for a Football team should shut his mouth .

The HC of the same football team who has to deal with the media should shut his mouth .

The GM who was hired by the Owner to provide players for the HC and has to talk to the media should shut his Mouth .

 

Jet fans who refuse to support anything they don't like but has nothing to lose but the money they choose to spend , can run off at the mouth when ever they want .

Sounds fair .

[Dcat]

2 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

The man who paid more money than we will ever see for a Football team should shut his mouth .

The HC of the same football team who has to deal with the media should shut his mouth .

The GM who was hired by the Owner to provide players for the HC and has to talk to the media should shut his Mouth .

 

Jet fans who refuse to support anything they don't like but has nothing to lose but the money they choose to spend , can run off at the mouth when ever they want .

Sounds fair .

exactly.  This is how the better teams manage it.  Glad you agree.

[thadude]

3 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

i can see mccags try to swap sheldon for glennon.  and sadly it may make sense.  

They're gonna trade Sheldon for Romo

 

And I'm gonna puke

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Uh, I did. So you're wrong yet again:

"Todd Bowles on Wednesday did not rule out perhaps playing Petty and/or Hackenberg before the Jets are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention -- even if starter Ryan Fitzpatrick remains healthy.

Bowles said he plans to decide on a backup for Jets-Browns in the next day or two. He said that while Petty and Hackenberg both got some first-team reps Wednesday, they did not receive equal reps overall. Bowles declined to say who got more reps. But he did say Petty is fully healthy again."

But here's more:

https://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/10/christian_hackenberg_bryce_petty_todd_bowles_not_n.html

 Now Fitzpatrick is the starter again. But behind him? Well, Bowles is waiting for things to settle a bit more before making that call. 

"It's something I'll have to discuss with the coaches," Bowles said. "We'll see what the game plan is and who fits what as far as us making that kind of decision."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/28/bowles-gets-testy-when-pressed-on-hackenberg-and-petty/

Bowles did say that both players practiced well this week, and that Hackenberg has gained ground on Petty because Petty missed several weeks of practice with an injury.

“They looked fine. Both of them are ready to play,” Bowles said.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/64330/jets-holding-no-2-qb-competition-bryce-petty-vs-christian-hackenberg

Jets hold No. 2 QB competition: Bryce Petty vs. Christian Hackenberg

Down to three quarterbacks, the Jets are holding a mini-competition this week to determine the No. 2 spot for Sunday. It's Petty versus Hackenberg. On Wednesday, they both took some reps with the first team (customary for the primary backup), but Bowles declined to say which player got more work. He'll make a decision by the end of the week.

 

And this is just where I got tired of looking & copying/pasting.

Hm...but you say there was no competition, and the #2 job was just handed to Petty without ever giving Hackenberg an opportunity. Your opinion is not very compelling, in light of every report that came out that said the polar opposite. And not once during all that time did Bowles state or even insinuate that it's Petty because this year is only a redshirt year for Hackenberg.

Oh, and here's this gem from Maccagnan:

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/jets-muddy-qb-picture-with-hackenberg-pick-petty-smith-in/article_e1e3810c-1104-11e6-a811-b7df7e02a9e1.html

Maccagnan also didn't rule out Hackenberg competing for the starting job this summer.

"We'll see where he's at," the GM said.

 

That's a far, far cry from your nonsense about everyone on the team openly stating "all year long" that Hackenberg would be redshirted for the entire season, with no opportunity to start (or even suit up), no matter what.

Are you now done attempting to argue this silly, obviously incorrect, narrative?

Not one of these 4 articles says that Hack was made the two or practiced.  Not one Cimini article says either of your points.  The 2 NJ articles say he could hypothetically try for the backup or starting position. The 4 th article was written after the draft, before Fitz signed pushing Hack to the th spot.

 Nowhere are any of your points put out by Bowles.  

[Sperm Edwards]

45 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Not one of these 4 articles says that Hack was made the two or practiced.  Not one Cimini article says either of your points.  The 2 NJ articles say he could hypothetically try for the backup or starting position. The 4 th article was written after the draft, before Fitz signed pushing Hack to the th spot.

 Nowhere are any of your points put out by Bowles.  

What??? To repeat:

Cimini: "Down to three quarterbacks, the Jets are holding a mini-competition this week to determine the No. 2 spot for Sunday. It's Petty versus Hackenberg. On Wednesday, they both took some reps with the first team (customary for the primary backup), but Bowles declined to say which player got more work. He'll make a decision by the end of the week.

What is the difference when the 4th article was written? Your whole silly story is the team drafted him for him to redshirt with no opportunity to start. Even Maccagnan said he'd have an opportunity, which he was given before re-signing Fitz. After that opportunity was given to him, and they saw just how unusable he was, the team went out and re-signed Fitzpatrick.

I think at this point it's obvious you know you are - and have been - 100% wrong. You have reached the point of denying the color of the blue sky in a photograph, with your reply further stating there are no such thing as photographs.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

What??? To repeat:

Cimini: "Down to three quarterbacks, the Jets are holding a mini-competition this week to determine the No. 2 spot for Sunday. It's Petty versus Hackenberg. On Wednesday, they both took some reps with the first team (customary for the primary backup), but Bowles declined to say which player got more work. He'll make a decision by the end of the week.

What is the difference when the 4th article was written? Your whole silly story is the team drafted him for him to redshirt with no opportunity to start. Even Maccagnan said he'd have an opportunity, which he was given before re-signing Fitz. After that opportunity was given to him, and they saw just how unusable he was, the team went out and re-signed Fitzpatrick.

I think at this point it's obvious you know you are - and have been - 100% wrong. You have reached the point of denying the color of the blue sky in a photograph, with your reply further stating there are no such thing as photographs.

 

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

What??? To repeat:

Cimini: "Down to three quarterbacks, the Jets are holding a mini-competition this week to determine the No. 2 spot for Sunday. It's Petty versus Hackenberg. On Wednesday, they both took some reps with the first team (customary for the primary backup), but Bowles declined to say which player got more work. He'll make a decision by the end of the week.

What is the difference when the 4th article was written? Your whole silly story is the team drafted him for him to redshirt with no opportunity to start. Even Maccagnan said he'd have an opportunity, which he was given before re-signing Fitz. After that opportunity was given to him, and they saw just how unusable he was, the team went out and re-signed Fitzpatrick.

I think at this point it's obvious you know you are - and have been - 100% wrong. You have reached the point of denying the color of the blue sky in a photograph, with your reply further stating there are no such thing as photographs.

im not wrong.  At the end of the season Macc and Bowles both said the plan was to not play Hack wouldn't play and they stuck with the plan.  You can say he competed in October for the job but he wasn't ever playing.  First they kept saying he would get snaps, don't even know that he got more than a series or two.  Bowles admitting that he got some snaps at the end of the season with the first unit for the first time with a few weeks left in the season isn't he was competing for the starting job but sucked so much he couldn't win it.  

 

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

im not wrong.  At the end of the season Macc and Bowles both said the plan was to not play Hack wouldn't play and they stuck with the plan.  You can say he competed in October for the job but he wasn't ever playing.  First they kept saying he would get snaps, don't even know that he got more than a series or two.  Bowles admitting that he got some snaps at the end of the season with the first unit for the first time with a few weeks left in the season isn't he was competing for the starting job but sucked so much he couldn't win it.  

 

Lol so after heir draft pick couldn't get onto the field, and both were getting brutalized by bad PR, they then said they were never going to put him on the field? Hahaha. Do you know what the term damage control means?

So you want to take them at their word when it suits you, after the season ended in failure (and thus far, the draft pick of Hackenberg in rd 2 as well), but when their actions and words don't, then you make up rationalizations as to why the sky is not really blue.

They gave him opportunities to play, said they would right after drafting him, and one opportunities were rescinded when he showed he was thus far incapable. So you were, and are, most definitely wrong. 

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Lol so after heir draft pick couldn't get onto the field, and both were getting brutalized by bad PR, they then said they were never going to put him on the field? Hahaha. Do you know what the term damage control means?

So you want to take them at their word when it suits you, after the season ended in failure (and thus far, the draft pick of Hackenberg in rd 2 as well), but when their actions and words don't, then you make up rationalizations as to why the sky is not really blue.

They gave him opportunities to play, said they would right after drafting him, and one opportunities were rescinded when he showed he was thus far incapable. So you were, and are, most definitely wrong. 

You do realize they said this before the season.  They said this by keeping 4 QBs.  Gaily said this because of 4 QBs Hack would get no playing time.  You can ignore all of this but pretty much everyone, media & fans, gets it other than you.  It's not damage control when it's called a plan ahead of time.  

Yeah, I take people at their word while you put words in their mouths.  Mo wanted Watt like money.  You were sure, logic told you that.  Argued away.  Missed the mark by plenty.  Now this.  Bowles never sad he was going to play.  He said he would hopefully get snaps with the 1s.  Didn't know how much.  I bet at that time it depended on Petty s health.  Nope, was a indicator that Hack sucks.  When afterwords Bowles clearly said the plan all along was to not play Hack and throwing him in week 17 wouldn't have proven anything to anyone.  Sorry that you don't follow the team enough to remember that one.  They gave him no opportunities to play.  Get over this, it never happened. 

[southtown24th]

If we take anyone BUT a QB at #6, I am officially, since 1988, at three years old, done with this franchise.  I can't watch another ******* season, not another ******* season with some shotty, 3rd round, 2nd round, retread, 40 year old rapist, Harvard educated journeyman piece of sh*t Quarterback play.

 

I'm out.

[Sperm Edwards]

5 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

You do realize they said this before the season.  They said this by keeping 4 QBs.  Gaily said this because of 4 QBs Hack would get no playing time.  You can ignore all of this but pretty much everyone, media & fans, gets it other than you.  It's not damage control when it's called a plan ahead of time.  

Yeah, I take people at their word while you put words in their mouths.  Mo wanted Watt like money.  You were sure, logic told you that.  Argued away.  Missed the mark by plenty.  Now this.  Bowles never sad he was going to play.  He said he would hopefully get snaps with the 1s.  Didn't know how much.  I bet at that time it depended on Petty s health.  Nope, was a indicator that Hack sucks.  When afterwords Bowles clearly said the plan all along was to not play Hack and throwing him in week 17 wouldn't have proven anything to anyone.  Sorry that you don't follow the team enough to remember that one.  They gave him no opportunities to play.  Get over this, it never happened. 

You have the cart before the horse there, Time didn't begin in late August. They saw how bad he was and then kept 4 QBs. Also I'm sure part of the reason was to hopefully get more for Geno should another team's QB go down, after the "hard" initial part of the Jets' schedule was over, but it never materialized and like a day after that decision Petty got injured in PS4, & Fitz shat the bed, and no one was offering Maccagnan's demands (as usual) anyway.

Those comments were made after the season (to the extent you even have that right, which is questionable at best), and it conflicts with that same man's decision to give Hackenberg the chance to leapfrog Petty as the #2 in October. It didn't happen because he wasn't good enough yet to make that jump. 

If you can provide, for the nth time, a quote from Bowles or Maccagnan from right after the draft, that said they are going to redshirt Hackenberg, then provide it. Your ridiculous claim was they "all" said that "all year" which is another lie. You're using his poor play after drafting him as a reason to incorrectly assume a self-imposed "rule" upon drafting him, and before they practiced with him.

And I have to lol at your newest false claim again, now. Mo did get Watt money. Watt's extension was for $16.67m/yr with $31m in full "no matter what" guarantees. Mo's deal is for $17m/yr with $37m in full "no matter what" guarantees.

Are you ever right about anything at all? Rofl. 

[Jetsplayer21]

6 hours ago, southtown24th said:

If we take anyone BUT a QB at #6, I am officially, since 1988, at three years old, done with this franchise.  I can't watch another ******* season, not another ******* season with some shotty, 3rd round, 2nd round, retread, 40 year old rapist, Harvard educated journeyman piece of sh*t Quarterback play.

 

I'm out.

So you just want us to keep wasting valuable draft picks on qbs who won't amount more than a mike glennon ? You said basically any qb at 6, even if they aren't worthy of the 6th pick.. Next yr class is much better.. If we waste the 6th pick on a jag this yr we aren't picking one again next yr.. And don't worry we will have a top 10 pick again next yr..

[Villain The Foe]

7 hours ago, southtown24th said:

If we take anyone BUT a QB at #6, I am officially, since 1988, at three years old, done with this franchise.  I can't watch another ******* season, not another ******* season with some shotty, 3rd round, 2nd round, retread, 40 year old rapist, Harvard educated journeyman piece of sh*t Quarterback play.

 

I'm out.

 

1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

So you just want us to keep wasting valuable draft picks on qbs who won't amount more than a mike glennon ? You said basically any qb at 6, even if they aren't worthy of the 6th pick.. Next yr class is much better.. If we waste the 6th pick on a jag this yr we aren't picking one again next yr.. And don't worry we will have a top 10 pick again next yr..

I think Southy is more concerned about "copying and pasting" the same quote in multiple Mike Glennon threads. 

Cool way to show "his exit" on the matter. 

[NYDreamer]

18 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you so much for this!!

Good news IMO.... at the very least it shows that the Jets are thinking!!!

Every new Head coach that comes in wants to start with their guy at the QB position.  If in fact the Jets inquired about Glennon 2 years ago before signing Fitzpatrick just think how different our conversations might be today.  I know we will never know but if the Bucs wanted a second round pick and we could have come away with Leonard Williams and then Glennon for our 2nd instead of Wr Smith.  Maybe we have just been on the pause button waiting for this to happen.  At least our off season is always fun.