Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I know the media and 50% of Jets fans think they are doing this great job and should get extensions but we are are 9-19 since week 17 in 2015 Literally any other franchise would be looking to change the regime this January. The Giants are and they are one season removed from 11-5 and a playoff appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 They're not getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, jeremy2020 said: They're not getting fired. Only because we have lousy ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I know the media and 50% of Jets fans think they are doing this great job and should get extensions but we are are 9-19 since week 17 in 2015 Literally any other franchise would be looking to change the regime this January. The Giants are and they are one season removed from 11-5 and a playoff appearance The difference is that Jerry Reese has been there a long time, since the end of 2007. So there was stability. ANy other franchise? Would that include the Bengals who have had MArvin Lewis there forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The difference is that Jerry Reese has been there a long time, since the end of 2007. So there was stability. ANy other franchise? Would that include the Bengals who have had MArvin Lewis there forever? & how's that working out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, jetgreen13 said: & how's that working out?? Exactly. Bowles is not getting that kind of time, I tell you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I have a question. Where is this need to give out extensions coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Bowles is up in the air but I don't see Maccagnan getting fired. If the decision had to be made today, I think Bowles would get 1 more year and Maccagnan would get extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Macc isn't getting fired. Adams/Mayes/Anderson/Lee/Jenkins/Williams. Pyror for Davis. Sheldon for Kearse and a 2nd. His main blemish is Hack. But 1st round QBs bust pretty often, so it's not shocking when a 2nd rounder is a bust. There are grounds to fire Bowles, but I won't be upset if he stays on because I don't think he is incompetent and because it will upset many whiney SOJFs on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 They'll both be back next year, barring something completely unforeseen over the last 5 weeks. Bowles will be on thin ice in 2018. Not many coaches make it 4 years consecutively with no playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Macc isn't getting fired. Adams/Mayes/Anderson/Lee/Jenkins/Williams. Pyror for Davis. Sheldon for Kearse and a 2nd. His main blemish is Hack. But 1st round QBs bust pretty often, so it's not shocking when a 2nd rounder is a bust. His main blemish isn't that he took over a 4-12 team and in 3 years never made the playoffs and is headed for another 4-12, 5-11, or optimistically, 6-10 team? His main blemish isn't that this team is not meaningfully different than the one he took over? The fact that you've greatly overrated all the drafted players, with only one of them being above average at present, is another issue, I suppose. But, any interest in responding with something other than "blah blah blah SOJF blah blah blah?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, gEYno said: His main blemish isn't that he took over a 4-12 team and in 3 years never made the playoffs and is headed for another 4-12, 5-11, or optimistically, 6-10 team? His main blemish is that this team isn't that the team is not meaningfully different than the one he took over? The fact that you've greatly overrated all the drafted players, with only one of them being above average at present, is another issue, I suppose. But, any interest in responding with something other than "blah blah blah SOJF blah blah blah?" I think it is. It's younger for sure. And it seems to be a more cohesive unit. And what do you mean "greatly overrate" the drafted players? He just said their names. He said nothing remotely close to "THEY ARE TEH GREATEST PLAYERS EVER!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And what do you mean "greatly overrate" the drafted players? He just said their names. And in all fairness, just saying the names of players we’ve drafted is by far the best defense of Maccagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The difference is that Jerry Reese has been there a long time, since the end of 2007. So there was stability. ANy other franchise? Would that include the Bengals who have had MArvin Lewis there forever? So I can totally suck at my job if I’m there for less than 5 years? Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, jetgreen13 said: & how's that working out?? Lewis has also made the playoffs several times. Donut after 3 years for Mac and Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Bowles is up in the air but I don't see Maccagnan getting fired. If the decision had to be made today, I think Bowles would get 1 more year and Maccagnan would get extended. Yay, a third straight season of 5-11 or worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I think it is. It's younger for sure. And it seems to be a more cohesive unit. And what do you mean "greatly overrate" the drafted players? He just said their names. He said nothing remotely close to "THEY ARE TEH GREATEST PLAYERS EVER!" This team has a fairly decent shot of going 4-12. Entering year 4, the Jets have no long term solution at probably the 4 most important positions in the NFL(#1 QB, #1 pass rusher, #1 CB, #1 WR) and the players that Mac has drafted I don't think any of them are top 3 at their positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, jetgreen13 said: & how's that working out?? Complacency is a virtue. Complacency when you stink is an even bigger Johnson family virtue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: This team has a fairly decent shot of going 4-12. Entering year 4, the Jets have no long term solution at probably the 4 most important positions in the NFL(#1 QB, #1 pass rusher, #1 CB, #1 WR) and the players that Mac has drafted I don't think any of them are top 3 at their positions. They have a #1 corner and a #1 WR (or at least playing like one) on their team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: This team has a fairly decent shot of going 4-12. Entering year 4, the Jets have no long term solution at probably the 4 most important positions in the NFL(#1 QB, #1 pass rusher, #1 CB, #1 WR) and the players that Mac has drafted I don't think any of them are top 3 at their positions. Mike Macagnan is easily a bottom 5 GM in the NFL Incredible that he skates through being a totally inept clown equivalent to an Idzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I think it is. It's younger for sure. And it seems to be a more cohesive unit. And what do you mean "greatly overrate" the drafted players? He just said their names. He said nothing remotely close to "THEY ARE TEH GREATEST PLAYERS EVER!" Macc's biggest apologist thinks that the team is better? This is big news! He said their names in the context of a defense of Macc. I'm not suggesting the hyperbole you offered. I'm simply suggesting that most of these players aren't good enough to demonstrate that Macc deserves to continue to pick more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: They have a #1 corner and a #1 WR (or at least playing like one) on their team right now. Lol are you being serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, gEYno said: Macc's biggest apologist thinks that the team is better? This is big news! He said their names in the context of a defense of Macc. I'm not suggesting the hyperbole you offered. I'm simply suggesting that most of these players aren't good enough to demonstrate that Macc deserves to continue to pick more players. All we need is CanadienJet and JetNut to post that we have a franchise qb on the roster between Hack and Petty they just need a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I honestly think the main reason Ben McAdoo is going to get fired is because Jerry Reese is going to get fired as well, and the Giants smartly dont want an Idzik-Rex situation. If it was a second year GM paired with McAdoo, I dont think he gets fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 years into a regime and still no commitment to a young QB. When was the last time this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Lol are you being serious? Did you not watch yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said: This team has a fairly decent shot of going 4-12. Entering year 4, the Jets have no long term solution at probably the 4 most important positions in the NFL(#1 QB, #1 pass rusher, #1 CB, #1 WR) and the players that Mac has drafted I don't think any of them are top 3 at their positions. Yeah, a handful of Jets fans refuse to accept Robby Anderson is still not a #1 WR, despite the fact that he's pretty good at his one route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Macc isn't getting fired. Adams/Mayes/Anderson/Lee/Jenkins/Williams. Pyror for Davis. Sheldon for Kearse and a 2nd. His main blemish is Hack. But 1st round QBs bust pretty often, so it's not shocking when a 2nd rounder is a bust. There are grounds to fire Bowles, but I won't be upset if he stays on because I don't think he is incompetent and because it will upset many whiney SOJFs on this board. Are you Manish Mehta or Ralph Vachinano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, gEYno said: Yeah, a handful of Jets fans refuse to accept Robby Anderson is still not a #1 WR, despite the fact that he's pretty good at his one route. Oh like Antonio Brown or Mike Wallace or Torrey Smith, all of whom were considered #1 WRs at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Did you not watch yesterday? Anderson is not even top 30 at his position and you are declaring a legit #1 because of 1 game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Philc1 said: Anderson is not even top 30 at his position and you are declaring a legit #1 because of 1 game 1 game? He's scored at least 1 TD in 5 straight games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: 3 years into a regime and still no commitment to a young QB. When was the last time this happened? Well when both stink yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: They have a #1 corner and a #1 WR (or at least playing like one) on their team right now. I'm assuming you're referring to Claiborne(who is a FA) and Robby Anderson(who is a one trick pony). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: 1 game? He's scored at least 1 TD in 5 straight games. Because we have nothing at the wr position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: I'm assuming you're referring to Claiborne(who is a FA) and Robby Anderson(who is a one trick pony). Watch this idiot GM Macagnan give Claiborne $70 million and he will be on IR next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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