Smizzy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Yea, you're right Smizz. Please keep in mind, I have never questioned PennyBoy's heart and desire to play football. He has done everything possible. My bad on that post. let me relish in the moment for a few minutes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 let me relish in the moment for a few minutes.... Get over it real quick. It was one of my weak moments when I was wrong. That doesn't happen too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Is there A WEBlink to this ESPN reporting penny asked to take a cut story? I have not heard this at all and I was watching sportscenter and ESPN news.. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJets Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Is there A WEBlink to this ESPN reporting penny asked to take a cut story? I have not heard this at all and I was watching sportscenter and ESPN news.. LL It was on the ESPN Pro Bowl pregame show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I actually agree with Bob and 124. I don't know what it is, call it gut feeling, but I just believe Pennington is going to come back and stay relatively healthy. I think he will be the Jets starting quarterback next year and that is a major reason why I would rather draft & develop a quarterback whether than throw away a proven Pro Bowler on Rivers or give up basically a 1st-rounder for Schaub. Pennington is a decent starter and that's exactly what he will be next year. This team will never win a Super Bowl with him, his arm is too damn weak. But he has shown in the past that he can lead this team into the playoffs. Without Herm to impede progress, maybe we can luck up and get to the big game even with Pennington. He needs to accept the pay-cut, which is a very fair offer, IMO. Pretty much sums up how I feel. Chad will take the pay cut imo. Because that is the type of player he is. I also thought I heard Mort say that Chad was way ahead of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 wow, i should post relevant things more often...people actually post back lol. and btw--this is the ONE player i expect to take a pay cut....and im with bob and 124(as if everyone didnt already know that).....may he come back and bring the excitement that i missed all year long with him. **this btw, is how mangini will beat the pats next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Pennington is a decent starter and that's exactly what he will be next year. This team will never win a Super Bowl with him, his arm is too damn weak. But he has shown in the past that he can lead this team into the playoffs. Without Herm to impede progress, maybe we can luck up and get to the big game even with Pennington. He needs to accept the pay-cut, which is a very fair offer, IMO. Why keep him then? to make Jets fan suffer? If anybody in the front office feels the same way and he is still here next yr...Expect to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I also thought I heard Mort say that Chad was way ahead of schedule. What the hell does that mean? He can consistently throw the football to a RB on the swing out of the backfield or can he hit a WR on a 2-yard slant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 What the hell does that mean? He can consistently throw the football to a RB on the swing out of the backfield or can he hit a WR on a 2-yard slant? He is obviously not throwing yet. He said his healing was way ahead of schedule. That is one of the reasons why the Jets are now approaching him with a new insentive based deal. Btw, Pennington will be the Jets starter next year and win a Super Bowl as QB of the New York Jets. All this talk of bringing someone in and even if they do - it will just push Chad to a new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 What the hell does that mean? He can consistently throw the football to a RB on the swing out of the backfield or can he hit a WR on a 2-yard slant? Tx,he said he thought he heard "ahead of schedule"....not "better than ever". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 It is a privledge to read this thread about Chad Pennington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 A month or so ago, Chad didnt really seem like a guy that would take a paycut. We'll see how this plays out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 if he REALLY believes he can come back, he'll do it, plain and simple. If he can get out there and be the chad of old, the players will support him and rally around him. If he doesn't believe he can come back, then whats the point in having him on the team anyway? i know its already been said...but this is just more proof that this organization is going in the right direction, its brilliant. Kudos to the boys in the front office(amazing what happens when bradways not in charge isnt it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Why keep him then? to make Jets fan suffer? If anybody in the front office feels the same way and he is still here next yr...Expect to lose. Because he is a better stop-gap quarterback than Kerry Collins or Jon Kitna. Pennington can be the starter for the next two seasons while a QB develops and he gives us a better chance to win than anyone who will be on the free agent market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Because he is a better stop-gap quarterback than Kerry Collins or Jon Kitna. Pennington can be the starter for the next two seasons while a QB develops and he gives us a better chance to win than anyone who will be on the free agent market. I refuse to believe Chad Pennington is the BEST option to play QB for the NYJ. At this point we don't know what the options are...June 1st we will have a better view of the NFL landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Because he is a better stop-gap quarterback than Kerry Collins or Jon Kitna. Pennington can be the starter for the next two seasons while a QB develops and he gives us a better chance to win than anyone who will be on the free agent market. I agree with Troll on this one. Kitna is nothing special and we all know that Collins isn't either. If you can't win with Porter / Randy Moss then you're not going to win with Coles / McCareins, I don't care who the coach is. Collins flat out sucks and has ever since his days in Carolina and 1 lucky year with the Giants which he followed up with what? 23 fumbles? Rivers' arm < Pennington's arm after 2 torn rotator cuff surgery's Rivers will not do anything in the pro's...I've said it all along and I'm sticking too it...he was over-rated to begin with......the same will go with Vince Young aka the next current Michael Vick....good, not great and will never lead his team to a Super Bowl. The only guy in the NFL right now that has a realistic shot of coming to the Jets that I wouldn't mind seeing here is Matt Schaub...but why should we give up the 36th overall pick in the draft for someone that hasn't proven anything yet when we can do that 4th overall and save a draft pick? Draft Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I refuse to believe Chad Pennington is the BEST option to play QB for the NYJ. At this point we don't know what the options are...June 1st we will have a better view of the NFL landscape. Who is a better option then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Who is a better option then? I dont know...But it would be pathetic if he was the best Qb available. Like I said..after june 1st cuts...Somebody Like McNair could be available. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 They should stop screwing with the man and just pay him. He'll be carrying this team for at least two years. Here is only thing he will be carrying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Here is only thing he will be carrying: Why am I not surprised that SJ's "facts" list is blank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Why am I not surprised that SJ's "facts" list is blank? good point, i forgot to point out Chad doesnt have the smarts anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 a franchise begins with QB... I'd be shocked if the new young regime doesn't draft Cutler..Thet all grow up together.. Sign Collins for a year to groom Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 a franchise begins with QB... I'd be shocked if the new young regime doesn't draft Cutler..Thet all grow up together.. Sign Collins for a year to groom Cutler. maybe this is just me...but i dont want the ol' drunk grooming anything, much less a "franchise quarterback" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 a franchise begins with QB... I'd be shocked if the new young regime doesn't draft Cutler..Thet all grow up together.. Sign Collins for a year to groom Cutler. Groom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Looking back, I don't know if Chad ever had the goods to be over the middle of the pack. High rating #'s in 02 - but after that he doesn't make the plays. Injured or well - he throws a lot of marginal to bad passes. And allowing most of his routines (Hackett) have been shorter flat or post tosses you cant even guage his deep ability (inability). Warrior, leader, love the guy, but if by some miracle his arm isn't toast, he's mediocre and not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Maybe one of you capologists can help me out here. This isn't really a pay cut, is it? I was under the impression that the NFLPA doesn't allow actually pay cuts, much like the way the MLBPA stepped in during the A-Rod to Boston debacle. Is it just a transfer of cap money to later in the contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sowell Train Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 This is the topic I worked on just now for my New York Jets Video Blog. Check out my opinion on this subject in Video Format here: http://mynyjets.blogspot.com --- I am thrilled with this decision. I like how the Tannenbaum and Mangini era has begun. Chad was a great guy for us the past few years, but he has also been injured more often than not. It is time for a pay cut or to show him the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJets Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Maybe one of you capologists can help me out here. This isn't really a pay cut, is it? I was under the impression that the NFLPA doesn't allow actually pay cuts, much like the way the MLBPA stepped in during the A-Rod to Boston debacle. Is it just a transfer of cap money to later in the contract? The difference is, Pennington's base salary isn't guaranteed. A-Rod's salary was guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 BEST NEWS ALL WEEK. hopefully he agrees. Agreed. It would be great to keep him as a backup or starter or whatever he can do, but for the low low low bargain price of someone who hasn't played a full season. Love the Chad, just not the $$$. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Agreed. It would be great to keep him as a backup or starter or whatever he can do, but for the low low low bargain price of someone who hasn't played a full season. Love the Chad, just not the $$$. BZ agree,, cant show chad any love unless the price os Dollar Store Variey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 This is the topic I worked on just now for my New York Jets Video Blog. Check out my opinion on this subject in Video Format here: http://mynyjets.blogspot.com --- I am thrilled with this decision. I like how the Tannenbaum and Mangini era has begun. Chad was a great guy for us the past few years, but he has also been injured more often than not. It is time for a pay cut or to show him the door. ST, just watched your latest video on Pennington...tell me how you really feel? LOL...but, seriously, I think the Jets should address the QB situation via trade and not waste a pick in an early round on a QB. We have too many other positions to address. That's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 This is pretty much an ultimatum. There is no way Chad can stay without taking the pay cut. How embarassing would it be for the Jets to ask, have Chad say no, and then just say OK nevermind then Chad!! Mangini has no loyalties, and has only the team's best interest in mind. I love this move, but the rest of the high-pricers might be shaking in their boots. Good. Let them worry. Coming off 4-12, change is needed, and some of the high priced guys did not step up, or or getting up there in age, and not earning their keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Maybe one of you capologists can help me out here. This isn't really a pay cut, is it? I was under the impression that the NFLPA doesn't allow actually pay cuts, much like the way the MLBPA stepped in during the A-Rod to Boston debacle. Is it just a transfer of cap money to later in the contract? It is called renegoiate or get cut and get nada for coin!!!!!! I luv it, these guys have read my plan and are executing!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 It is called renegoiate or get cut and get nada for coin!!!!!! I luv it, these guys have read my plan and are executing!!!!!!! assmop,,remind u of the 1st few days of the Gerstner regime???? no one safe,,,haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 People, the Chad situation would have been a restructuring regardless of te regime. Please, do not make this out that Mangini/Tannenbaum have laid teh wood to Chad. This was going to be the circumstance. Let's not start giving credit where credit is not due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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