choon328 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pac said: I know Carr is an overpaid jag, Garrapolo is Glass Joe, Brady is 153 years old, no one is trading picks to pay Rodgers 60 mil next year. I also know Love was a 1st round pick who has benefited from 3 years spent learning the system the Jets play. No one is saying trade a first and give him a long term contract. I'm saying out of all the options he appears to me to be the best one. There is no way Love is available. Rodgers is on his last legs and they've invested 3 yrs into that kid grooming him to replace Rodgers just like they did with Favre. Rodgers will be traded before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Pac said: Carr is an overpaid jag Sign me up for a jag who's thrown for over 4000 yards the last four seasons. If the Jets can get him at a decent price and restructure his deal I'd be all for it. This offense would be humming with Carr behind center. Jordan Love is a complete unknown in this league and not what the Jets need to compete in 2023. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, DireJet said: Tom Brady will not play behind this offensive line. No way, no how. Brady is actively declining. He’s still a ~league average qb, but its trending downwards in a hurry. Would likely play above that level for a playoff game or two, and below that lvl for random road games. Garrop is sorta in the same place with injuries. Kinda a ~15th place qb that loses a bit of steam each time he gets hurt and never really recovers. Will be too expensive, and take too long to work into shape. Carr is slightly more interesting, but I dont think he fits as well scheme wise. There are no great qb options without a trade or a draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 No. I live in Wisconsin. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: How is Jordan Love a failure? Christian Hackenberg didn't need to take an NFL snap for everyone to know he sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Christian Hackenberg didn't need to take an NFL snap for everyone to know he sucked. Thanks for this enlightening tidbit of meaningless garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Thanks for this enlightening tidbit of meaningless garbage. But can you dispute it? Coaches see these guys in practice. They know what they have or don't have, generally. Think if Love were seen as being a worthwhile add in league circles he wouldn't have gotten moved already? Come on. Just because he's the "devil you don't know" as a fan doesn't mean he's somebody you send assets for. He was a 2nd/3rd round prospect that the Packers reached for and has been in the league 3 years. We kinda have an idea by now what he is or isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: But can you dispute it? Coaches see these guys in practice. They know what they have or don't have, generally. Think if Love were seen as being a worthwhile add in league circles he wouldn't have gotten moved already? Come on. Just because he's the "devil you don't know" as a fan doesn't mean he's somebody you send assets for. He was a 2nd/3rd round prospect that the Packers reached for and has been in the league 3 years. We kinda have an idea by now what he is or isn't. He has god damn Aaron Rodgers in front of him on the depth chart bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: He has god damn Aaron Rodgers in front of him on the depth chart bro. So why haven't the Packers moved him already? Has there even been a whisper of anybody even being interested? And Rodgers kinda sucks this year, btw. Again, Love not seeing the field doesn't mean GMs aren't aware of what he is or isn't. This league talks, a lot. How he looks in practice makes its way to the other 31 teams out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, JTJet said: Trade them Elijah Moore straight up. That's extremely fair. High time we move on from Moore running 5 yards backwards everytime he touches the rare pass that's thrown to him. So win win I think. Trading Moore would be stupid imo. He has talent even if he does some stupid things. Those issues can be fixed with coaching. Let’s see him have a season with a competent QB before moving him on. Guy looked rejuvenated with Mike White in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: So why haven't the Packers moved him already? Has there even been a whisper of anybody even being interested? And Rodgers kinda sucks this year, btw. Rodgers threw for 37 touchdowns and 4 INTs last year while winning league MVP. They traded away Davante Adams and replaced him with a raw 2nd round pick. The offense and Rodgers is coming on now - probably too little too late but it's easier to break into the wildcard in the NFC. It's a little different scenario than trying to beat out Fitzpatrick & McCown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Rodgers threw for 37 touchdowns and 4 INTs last year while winning league MVP. They traded away Davante Adams and replaced him with a raw 2nd round pick. The offense and Rodgers is coming on now - probably too little too late but it's easier to break into the wildcard in the NFC. It's a little different scenario than trying to beat out Fitzpatrick & McCown I get it. But again, why have there been no real whispers of the Packers looking to move Love, or anyone being interested to date (unless I've missed it)? After all, they have to move on from one or the other soon. Rodgers' contract is an albatross so he's gonna be fairly tough to move, I imagine. And do they just hand the keys to Love in that instance? He's got just 1 year left on his rookie deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I get it. But again, why have there been no real whispers of the Packers looking to move Love, or anyone being interested to date (unless I've missed it)? After all, they have to move on from one or the other soon. Rodgers' contract is an albatross so he's gonna be fairly tough to move, I imagine. And do they just hand the keys to Love in that instance? He's got just 1 year left on his rookie deal. They're probably going to have to decide on Rodgers or Love soon for cap reasons. Rodgers might just retire and decide for them. Love has looked good this year in limited opportunities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 This might be interesting. Flip Zack straight up for Love. Neither has a future with their current teams. Bring Love in and have him compete for the starting job. Wilson can sit a learn behind Rogers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I don't know about 'all in' but the suggestion is a good one, younger guy with some promise that should not be cost prohibitive to obtain. Love, Tyler Huntley, Minshew, Trubisky all guys I would look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, k-met57 said: define all in lol you people are insane I did.. Multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Pac said: I know Carr is an overpaid jag, Garrapolo is Glass Joe, Brady is 153 years old, no one is trading picks to pay Rodgers 60 mil next year. I also know Love was a 1st round pick who has benefited from 3 years spent learning the system the Jets play. No one is saying trade a first and give him a long term contract. I'm saying out of all the options he appears to me to be the best one. How does any of this make him an even mediocre QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just now, Jet Nut said: How does any of this make him an even mediocre QB What's your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pac said: What's your plan? Not to trade for a QB who sucks somewhere else just because he isn’t Zach. Carr is a million times better QB. Id rather keep White and draft a project and develop hi instead of throwing hi to the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: So why haven't the Packers moved him already? Has there even been a whisper of anybody even being interested? And Rodgers kinda sucks this year, btw. Again, Love not seeing the field doesn't mean GMs aren't aware of what he is or isn't. This league talks, a lot. How he looks in practice makes its way to the other 31 teams out there. He has looked much better than anything we've fielded in his limited opportunities... Just saying for everyone who is completely out on him have you watched him lately? My interest is at least peaked.... thats all im saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Not to trade for a QB who sucks somewhere else just because he isn’t Zach. Carr is a million times better QB. Id rather keep White and draft a project and develop hi instead of throwing hi to the fire You don't seem to comprehend Love is the equivalent of a high draft pick on a QB with the benefit of him being in the NFL for 3 years. Carr sucks and has a billion dollar contract. No thanks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Pac said: You don't seem to comprehend Love is the equivalent of a high draft pick on a QB with the benefit of him being in the NFL for 3 years. Carr sucks and has a billion dollar contract. No thanks. Plus I think McDaniels broke carr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Pac said: You don't seem to comprehend Love is the equivalent of a high draft pick on a QB with the benefit of him being in the NFL for 3 years. Carr sucks and has a billion dollar contract. No thanks. Then why would the Packers, who watch him practice week in and week out trade him? Makes no sense. On your best day you pray Love becomes a QB near what Carr has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Matt39 said: Can he play? Last year he started for Rodgers a game or two. Davante Adams couldn’t even catch passes from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: How is Jordan Love a failure? I said failed pick, not failure. And it absolutely is a failed pick, since he can't get on the field going into Year 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Icer said: I said failed pick, not failure. And it absolutely is a failed pick, since he can't get on the field going into Year 4 100 %. Unless they can flip Love for a high pick(s) it was sunken capital. Meanwhile these were some of the players they COULD have taken at 26 overall (or a little later) to help them over the last 3 seasons: WR Tee Higgins (# 33 overall) WR Michael Pittman (# 34) LB Patrick Queen (# 28) RB Jonathan Taylor (# 41) S Antoine Winfield (# 45) Imagine Rodgers with Tee Higgins as his WR1 replacement for Adams right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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