Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I find the disrespect towards Shanahan is mind numbing. He is a premiere HC in the NFL. SF is better than the Jets. It's not like they lost to NE. Shanahan is a better coach than Saleh. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 San Fran ran heavy (2 TE's or 1 TE and FB) 42 plays and the Jets countered with a light defensive front and brought up a safety to play LB. SF forced the Jets DB to tackle and outside of Clark they suck at it. Saleh and Ulbrich never adjusted. Didn't play big and load the box. And at halftime, down 16-7 they still didn't adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Saleh is catching the most heat in the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 There's only one question that needs to be answered: Is Saleh an "elite human"? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, David Harris said: There's only one question that needs to be answered: Is Saleh an "elite human"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Can’t wait for Saleh’s 🤡 postgame spin if they lose to the freaking Titans ”credit to them” ”that’s a heckuva football team” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJETFAN Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 He’s starting to make me miss Rex. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJETFAN Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Claymation said: I find the disrespect towards Shanahan is mind numbing. He is a premiere HC in the NFL. SF is better than the Jets. It's not like they lost to NE. Shanahan is a better coach than Saleh. I loathe that team with a fiery passion but could not agree more. He’s a great coach and they’re a great team. I’m gonna go puke now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 hours ago, Claymation said: I find the disrespect towards Shanahan is mind numbing. He is a premiere HC in the NFL. SF is better than the Jets. It's not like they lost to NE. Shanahan is a better coach than Saleh. Who disrespected Kyle Shanahan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Who disrespected Kyle Shanahan? You want a name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Claymation said: You want a name? I guess. Though I'm more interested in what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I guess. Though I'm more interested in what was said. Take a look at the threads, and who posters believe is at fault. JD, Saleh, OL, DL, Rodgers etc. Not one about Kyle out-coaching Robert, At least I didn't see it. Kyle is the best coach in football right now. And if I was building a franchise from scratch, he would be my first call. Sometimes, you tip your cap and move one. He ran 12 and 11 w/fullback against a nickel D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 13 minutes ago, Claymation said: Take a look at the threads, and who posters believe is at fault. JD, Saleh, OL, DL, Rodgers etc. Not one about Kyle out-coaching Robert, At least I didn't see it. Kyle is the best coach in football right now. And if I was building a franchise from scratch, he would be my first call. Sometimes, you tip your cap and move one. He ran 12 and 11 w/fullback against a nickel D. You're being a bit dramatic. I don't think there's anyone on here who disagrees that Shanny completely dominated Saleh in the coaching match-up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: You're being a bit dramatic. I don't think there's anyone on here who disagrees that Shanny completely dominated Saleh in the coaching match-up. Then why all the reasons/excuses on why the team lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Elite rosters win games. This team hasn’t done that for years. Meanwhile a lot of people here are going with Rodgers and the roster are still elite, but everything that’s wrong is Saleh’s fault. Man, you guys sure do love you some Joe Douglas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, Augustiniak said: You can put Corley on the jets and he’ll do nothing, but you can put him on SF or KC and he’ll look good. This is baseless conjecture, as has been the case for years about many other failed players attempted to be blamed solely on the coaches. We heard the same about Mims and he's instead out of the league, just as one of many examples. Plenty of players out there have completely failed with even the greatest of teams/coaches. The issues continue to start on an even higher level with this team, and there's currently no evidence to the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Elite rosters win games. This team hasn’t done that for years. Meanwhile a lot of people here are going with Rodgers and the roster are still elite, but everything that’s wrong is Saleh’s fault. Man, you guys sure do love you some Joe Douglas. The Jets played a light defense/6 in the box against 12 and 11 w/fullback all night. That's a scheme problem. Play an 8 man box and put Sauce and Reed on an island with a single high Safety. Because you know what, Levis sucks and Callahan will want to run the ball and if he doesn't this team will be in for a long night. Make Levis beat you. Hell make every crappy QB beat you, especially if you have Sauce and Reed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 25 minutes ago, Claymation said: Then why all the reasons/excuses on why the team lost? I don't think most people are surprised we lost. It was the way we lost that is concerning. The Jets should be talented enough to at least compete against them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 On 9/10/2024 at 12:02 AM, Joe W. Namath said: Jeff Ulbrich was the issue today. Its his defense. Our D was awful today. Thats our D coordinators fault. you don't think he relies on saleh about defense advice? this is on saleh. he should've known how shanahan was going to approach this game. and if he did and didn't tell ulbrich then he's doubly wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I don't think most people are surprised we lost. It was the way we lost that is concerning. The Jets should be talented enough to at least compete against them. They were out coached. You see you are discrediting Kyle right now. You think it is something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, Claymation said: They were out coached. You see you are discrediting Kyle right now. You think it is something else. Yes, Saleh was badly outcoached. No sh-t. Read the forum. Practically everyone agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Yes, Saleh was badly outcoached. No sh-t. Read the forum. Practically everyone agrees. Unfortunately I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 This isn't the only time Saleh's run D has been trampled. The Colts game in prime time when MFW got injured. Jonathan Taylor ran all over them. And that was with DTs and DEs who could theoretically anchor. Under this HC, the Jets just consistently do not show up for these prime time games. More often than not, they get their doors blown off or are otherwise just flat-out embarrassed (vs Jags in the rain). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Ghost said: It is honestly disrespectful for Saleh to have the same title as coachs like Shanahan and Reid. The latter are Fruit Loops while our “head coach” is the generic, “Fruit Rounds.” He runs some good stairs though. They're food! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Green Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/10/2024 at 7:51 AM, Integrity28 said: The year of Rodgers was wasted the very minute they drafted a backup swing tackle over a guy who can score TDs. Like, the plan to fix the O was to sign an old WR coming off an injury and bring in 2 old OTs that forces the need to have a 3rd starting caliber OT on the roster. Dumb as it gets. Youre not referring to Brock Bowers are you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Green Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/10/2024 at 11:35 AM, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: The NFL might be regretting their decision to go all in on the Jets already with all the prime time games. What they failed to grasp is how pisspoor Robert Saleh is as a head coach. Man stop... the NFL wants nothing more than to see the Jets crash and burn and be ridiculed in prime time. Explain the 3 games in 10 days, starting in SF, not even home til week 3 with zero turnaround time. They're hoping to see Rodgers fail bc they don't like that he thinks and speaks for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFlyer Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Robbie needs to be a top 5 Defense to earn his keep. if thats not happening hes useless. weve given this guy pass rushers and IDL galore. we need a real offense woody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 9 hours ago, Bronx said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/10/2024 at 9:46 AM, Bleedin Green said: That's the same narrative that's been repeated around here for a few years now and still yet to be proven true. The defense is an inarguably worse roster and the offense once again heavily dependent on other teams' past-their-prime castoffs having a sudden career resurgence. At this point it's all identical to the Maccagnan / Bowles situation in 2018. Their best players are on rookie deals outside of Aaron this is nothing like Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 This is like being on a plane in a window seat and witnessing the entire wing come off and the guy in the middle seat tells you to r- e-l-a-x 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 11 hours ago, Claymation said: Take a look at the threads, and who posters believe is at fault. JD, Saleh, OL, DL, Rodgers etc. Not one about Kyle out-coaching Robert, At least I didn't see it. Kyle is the best coach in football right now. And if I was building a franchise from scratch, he would be my first call. Sometimes, you tip your cap and move one. He ran 12 and 11 w/fullback against a nickel D. This entire thread is about Bobby Boy being out coached mate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 @TuscanyTile2 Saleh called Bill Callahan "one of the greatest OL coaches this league has ever seen" He's already laying the groundwork for excuse-making if they lose 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 12 hours ago, Plen T said: I'd almost be willing to bet my life he waited for the camera crew to get in position before beginning his ascent 🥲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 [mention=27657]TuscanyTile2[/mention] Saleh called Bill Callahan "one of the greatest OL coaches this league has ever seen" He's already laying the groundwork for excuse-making if they lose He's not wrong though ... And neither are you .. his fing job is to figure it out ... Period Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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