Popular Post The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 End of the world... We suck again... Blah blah blah... The NFC Champs ran it straight down the Jets throat... The run defense is disturbing... But most teams will not have the SF front line pushing them back... They lost the first game in SF against the NFC Champs... So what Positives... The offense can move the ball... Morstead is awesome... No injuries... No presnap penalties... No illegal formations But too many self inflicted injuries on offense.. Breece fumble... The lucky INT.... The drops... Jets were outclassed by a better team... Right now... Let's see how they respond... 23 6 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: End of the world... We suck again... Blah blah blah... The NFC Champs ran it straight down the Jets throat... The run defense is disturbing... But most teams will not have the SF front line pushing them back... They lost the first game in SF against the NFC Champs... So what Positives... The offense can move the ball... Morstead is awesome... No injuries... No presnap penalties... No illegal formations But too many self inflicted injuries on offense.. Breece fumble... The lucky INT.... The drops... Jets were outclassed by a better team... Right now... Let's see how they respond... If we truly have expectations of a deep playoff run then that performance (being "completely outclassed") is unacceptable. Saleh had all offseason to prepare for this game. 22 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARodJetsFan Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 On 9/10/2024 at 5:28 AM, The Voice of Reason said: End of the world... We suck again... Blah blah blah... The NFC Champs ran it straight down the Jets throat... The run defense is disturbing... But most teams will not have the SF front line pushing them back... They lost the first game in SF against the NFC Champs... So what Positives... The offense can move the ball... Morstead is awesome... No injuries... No presnap penalties... No illegal formations But too many self inflicted injuries on offense.. Breece fumble... The lucky INT.... The drops... Jets were outclassed by a better team... Right now... Let's see how they respond... The Defense (which is supposed to be the strength of this team) was flat. The run defense was awful, couldn't get off the field on 3rd down and their sh!tty tackling made the 49er's back-up RB look like John Riggins. Our pass rush sucked - either the 49er's O-Line is really good (PFF said they weren't & had the 49er's O-line ranked 22nd in the NFL and had our O-line ranked 5th in the NFL, hence why I don't take PFF rankings very seriously) or we have no pass-rush whatsoever. Most likely, it's some combination of the two. Offensive line did alright pass-blocking, but they got no movement at all when run-blocking and didn't give Hall any real holes to hit, which is a big reason why he struggled. Breece Hall under-performed, that fumble was inexcusable - keep 2 hands on the friggin' ball for Christ's sake & maybe it's just me, but Hall looked a step slow tonight, I didn't see that burst out of him, that he normally has. I feel like Braelon Allen should have come into the game sooner, instead of waiting 'til garbage time. The INT Rodgers threw was off a deflection, so I don't really view that as his fault per say. Rodgers looked serviceable, not great but not terrible either, he still has plenty of zip on the ball and can make all the throws. He took a couple of hits & survived, which is a positive. Garret Wilson - looked good for the most part, but I don't know how he couldn't get 2 feet down on the last drive that Rodgers stayed in for - he has to be more aware of where he is on the field and where the sideline is. Wilson also gave up on a route after being bumped by a defender and Aaron Rodgers threw the ball to where Wilson should have been - he should never just give up on a route like that, he has to fight through the coverage and keep running. I was very disappointed in Wilson on that particular play, where he just stopped running. I have to say despite that one drive-killing drop early, Lazard redeemed himself nicely, with 2 receiving TDs. There may be hope for him yet. Mike Williams was a on a very limited snap count and when he was in the game he was never targeted, I didn't see a single ball thrown his way. Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt, nor did any O-line starters. I did see MC-II leave the game - hopefully his injury isn't anything serious. Bottom line - and there is no way to sugar-coat it, we got b!tch-slapped tonight. One large helping of humble pie has been served, let's see how this team responds on a short week. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: If we truly have expectations of a deep playoff run then that performance (being "completely outclassed") is unacceptable. Saleh had all offseason to prepare for this game. Or maybe they they had a tough task to beat the NFC Champs in their building on opening day... Halfway through the season and it's a different story. 8 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said: The Defense (which is supposed to be the strength of this team) was flat. The run defense was awful, couldn't get off the field on 3rd down and their sh!tty tackling made the 49er's back-up RB look like John Riggins. Our pass rush sucked - either the 49er's O-Line is really good (PFF said they weren't & had the 49er's O-line ranked 22nd in the NFL and had our O-line ranked 5th in the NFL, hence why I don't take PFF rankings very seriously) or we have no pass-rush whatsoever. Offensive line did alright pass-blocking, but they got no movement at all when run-blocking and didn't give Hall any real holes to hit, which is a big reason why he struggled. Breece Hall under-performed, that fumble was inexcusable - keep 2 hands on the friggin' ball for Christ's sake & maybe it's just me, but Hall looked a step slow tonight, I didn't see that burst out of him, that he normally has. I feel like Braelon Allen should have come into the game sooner, instead of waiting 'til garbage time. The INT Rodgers threw was off a deflection, so I don't really view that as his fault per say. Rodgers looked serviceable, not great but not terrible either, he still has plenty of zip on the ball and can make all the throws. He took a couple of hits & survived, which is a positive. Garret Wilson - looked good for the most part, but I don't know how he couldn't get 2 feet down on the last drive that Rodgers stayed in for - he has to be more aware of where he is on the field and where the sideline is. I have to say despite that one drive-killing drop, Lazard redeemed himself nicely, with 2 receiving TDs. There may be hope for him yet. Mike Williams was a on a very limited snap count and when he was in the game he was never targeted, I didn't see a single ball thrown his way. Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt, nor did any O-line starters. I did see MC-II leave the game - hopefully his injury isn't anything serious. I view the things in bold as the main reasons we got b!tch-slapped tonight. One large helping of humble pie has been served, let's see how this team responds on a short week. They got beat by their offensive line in their building mostly... The Jets run game was getting close to breaking one they just didn't have the ball long enough... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 It is only 1 game and it was against a great team. But do we have a positive we can say from this game besides Rodgers stayed healthy? I can’t think of 1 good thing we did besides that. We had the passing game going with GW. But kept interrupting that but trying to force Breece the ball. Which wasn’t working. And our defense was staying in the field not stopping anything to where we couldn’t get anything positive going on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 It is not they were not at full strength and destroyed us and they left tons of points in the board this was a reality check to the insane people that thought we have a top 5 roster and to Joe fanboys who think results don’t matter and overhype the talent to absurd levels based on names on a paper we have a terrible coach and he is joes guy It is going to be another long season 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 Not playing in preseason seemed pretty evident with the defensive line getting blown off the ball. Titans will just run too. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Just now, Bobby816 said: It is only 1 game and it was against a great team. But do we have a positive we can say from this game besides Rodgers stayed healthy? I can’t think of 1 good thing we did besides that. We had the passing game going with GW. But kept interrupting that but trying to force Breece the ball. Which wasn’t working. And our defense was staying in the field not stopping anything to where we couldn’t get anything positive going on offense. It was to wear down the defense line... It was starting to crack... They just ran out of time... The defense gave up a lot of 50 yard fgs... Not tds.. We'll see but come playoff time, I suspect a much better team. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 Week 1 Overreactions are basically an institution around the NFL. They happen ever year and nobody ever learns. Not shocked at all to see so many whiny babies crying about the game and acting like this indicates anything about the season. If you know the NFL, you know, that week 1 means absolutely nothing and you can take absolutely nothing away from any teams performance. The Jets were always losing this game, they have Will Levis, Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nix and Sam Darnold up next. 4-1 here we come! 14 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OilfieldJet Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: End of the world... We suck again... Blah blah blah... The NFC Champs ran it straight down the Jets throat... The run defense is disturbing... But most teams will not have the SF front line pushing them back... They lost the first game in SF against the NFC Champs... So what Positives... The offense can move the ball... Morstead is awesome... No injuries... No presnap penalties... No illegal formations But too many self inflicted injuries on offense.. Breece fumble... The lucky INT.... The drops... Jets were outclassed by a better team... Right now... Let's see how they respond... Wrong on a number of fronts, but glad you are satisfied with the effort. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, kmnj said: It is not they were not at full strength and destroyed us and they left tons of points in the board this was a reality check to the insane people that thought we have a top 5 roster and to Joe fanboys who think results don’t matter and overhype the talent to absurd levels based on names on a paper we have a terrible coach and he is joes guy It is going to be another long season It is and up you are crazy to think this is not a top tier team... They got beat on the line against a team that is built to beat this defense... It's one game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not playing in preseason seemed pretty evident with the defensive line getting blown off the ball. Titans will just run too. You know the 49ers didnt play anyone either, right? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Just now, OilfieldJet said: Wrong on a number of fronts, but glad you are satisfied with the effort. I'm not thanks for your opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 No excuses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not playing in preseason seemed pretty evident with the defensive line getting blown off the ball. Titans will just run too. Maybe... Could be true... We will see if they improve the next few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, JiFtheOracle said: You know the 49ers didnt play anyone either, right? When we have their success maybe then we can rest guys and not take practice seriously. Purdy did play in preseason though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Just now, joewilly12 said: No excuses Thanks... Glad you are being rational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Thanks... Glad you are being rational. You cannot be a top team in the NFL playing that kind of football. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: Week 1 Overreactions are basically an institution around the NFL. They happen ever year and nobody ever learns. Not shocked at all to see so many whiny babies crying about the game and acting like this indicates anything about the season. If you know the NFL, you know, that week 1 means absolutely nothing and you can take absolutely nothing away from any teams performance. The Jets were always losing this game, they have Will Levis, Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nix and Sam Darnold up next. 4-1 here we come! its really not an overreaction to say the team looked sh*tty last night. especially the defense. losing to that team is one thing, but they weren't even competitive. and if the jets are supposed to be a contender then you can't look like you are being totally outclassed and completely overmatched. thats not a great sign. yes we have a slate of much easier looking games coming up. if this team is who they need to be they should win every one of them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 11 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: You know the 49ers didnt play anyone either, right? except they did: https://www.nfl.com/games/49ers-at-raiders-2024-pre-3?active-tab=stats might wanna check before you just make sh*t up 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: When we have their success maybe then we can rest guys and not take practice seriously. Purdy did play in preseason though Meh, everyone claimed it's the hardest camp they've had but I agree, the lack of all teams playing preseason has led to sloppy sloppy play across the board, Definitely not exclusive to the Jets. It's not a big deal though, Jets started 1-0 last year and it's almost like the 49ers are the best team in the NFL and the Jets were never winning the game anyway. They'll be fine. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, neckdemon said: its really not an overreaction to say the team looked sh*tty last night. especially the defense. losing to that team is one thing, but they weren't even competitive. and if the jets are supposed to be a contender then you can't look like you are being totally outclassed and completely overmatched. thats not a great sign. yes we have a slate of much easier looking games coming up. if this team is who they need to be they should win every one of them. Oh it's totally an overreaction. They lost a game to a better team in a tough spot. It happens in the NFL every week. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: except they did they played Purdy... who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: It is and up you are crazy to think this is not a top tier team... They got beat on the line against a team that is built to beat this defense... It's one game Yes it is one game and there are other games the following teams are better and have better rosters texans not even close niners not even close chiefs not even close cowboys - we have a better rb though eagles not even close ravens lions bills but not by a ton packers if love comes back Dolphins - slight edge - they are more complete on offense Rams if pula comes back This is sadly what I believe the reality is and I hope I am wrong all of those teams have better coaches too except maybe the Eagles 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetPotato Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 A lesson Jets fans rarely learn: When a team is telling you who they are, listen to them. This is a talented roster with a terrible coaching staff. That's death in this league. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 The TOP was a little concerning. Outside of the score that looked like Ohio State against a division 3 team. After last year you would think the Jets come out and have a plan and play with emotion. They didn’t do either. There is no excuse for the D being roughed up like that. Why is it an over reaction to watch a game and analyze what happened. This is supposed to be a top 5 roster competing for a SB. Yes the 49ers were favored. They were also missing their best player and they didn’t just beat us, it was a beat down. Granted it’s only 1 game but there has only been 1 game played to actually analyze. Let’s hope the team gets a lot better. Game 1 was an ugly disappointment. No sugar coating it. Pretending we are a SB contender with a great roster and making excuses for that beat down isn’t the voice of reason. It’s rationalizing a different outcome than what you saw. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 24 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: Week 1 Overreactions are basically an institution around the NFL. They happen ever year and nobody ever learns. Not shocked at all to see so many whiny babies crying about the game and acting like this indicates anything about the season. If you know the NFL, you know, that week 1 means absolutely nothing and you can take absolutely nothing away from any teams performance. The Jets were always losing this game, they have Will Levis, Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nix and Sam Darnold up next. 4-1 here we come! I think it’s okay to be disgusted to the point of anger by what we saw, while still knowing it’s week 1 and may be an aberration. This team has been hyped all summer as a viable playoff team. It’s reasonable to have expected them to be competitive last night. They were not. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 22 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: You cannot be a top team in the NFL playing that kind of football. It's the first game... In the NFC Champs house... You are right... But come on... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BP Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 35 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: If we truly have expectations of a deep playoff run then that performance (being "completely outclassed") is unacceptable. Saleh had all offseason to prepare for this game. The voice of reason has butterflies floating out of his ass in la la land over the Jets. And ANY NEGATIVITY is FROWNED upon. The Jets were awful= they were outclassed lmao are you ******* kidding me? 1 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted September 10 Popular Post Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: It's the first game... In the NFC Champs house... You are right... But come on... This is supposed to be our "big season". We weren't even competitive. And they were missing their star RB, no less. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: This is supposed to be our "big season". We weren't even competitive. And they were missing their star RB, no less. Agreed... They were dominated by SF OL and the run game... So they looked even worse because they gave SF long drives and they made no mistakes... Jets made to of mistakes with fumbles and drops and a lucky INT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 5 minutes ago, BP said: The voice of reason has butterflies floating out of his ass in la la land over the Jets. And ANY NEGATIVITY is FROWNED upon. The Jets were awful= they were outclassed lmao are you ******* kidding me? Voice of Reason brings everything back to the mean... No over reaction either way... Jets weren't awful... They couldn't stop the run... That's it... The rest was self inflicted 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 31 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: Week 1 Overreactions are basically an institution around the NFL. They happen ever year and nobody ever learns. Not shocked at all to see so many whiny babies crying about the game and acting like this indicates anything about the season. If you know the NFL, you know, that week 1 means absolutely nothing and you can take absolutely nothing away from any teams performance. The Jets were always losing this game, they have Will Levis, Jacoby Brissett, Bo Nix and Sam Darnold up next. 4-1 here we come! Week 1 under reaction is a staple for Jets fans. Seen it for decades. The Jets were always losing SB 3. The Jets were always losing to the Pats in their building in the playoffs under Rex, NE was always losing to the Bengals on the road. The 49ers will lose games this year to teams that aren’t as good as them. It won’t be the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 34 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: It was to wear down the defense line... It was starting to crack... They just ran out of time... The defense gave up a lot of 50 yard fgs... Not tds.. We'll see but come playoff time, I suspect a much better team. I get what you're saying but when you're down by 16 after the 1st drive of the 2nd half. You need to score... not establish the run. And we did pass more in the 2nd half to play catch up. But GW was working and we just stopped using him to force the run in the 1st half. Make them stop him before you do that. He was making plays and Breece was out there fumbling the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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