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[Bugg]

Hermie's press pass officially revoked. This whole OL thing; can we just get past it?

Posted on Tue, May. 01, 2007

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/89730.html

Wanted: more offense

By JASON WHITLOCK

Columnist

In case you forgot, when last we saw our Chiefs, the final score was 23-8, the Chiefs didn

[Green DNA]

This is the same team that was lighting it up on offense only two short years ago.

[JetsMan57]

This is the same team that was lighting it up on offense only two short years ago.

The offense has been officially hermanized. Who will play oline for the chiefs this year? Traffic Cones?

Herm still doesnt quite understand that you cannot sign UDFA and plug them into the OLINE and expect all to go well. Players will get hurt. Chad Pennington 2005 hurt.

Goodness they are going to suck.

[SouthernJet]

This is the same team that was lighting it up on offense only two short years ago.

but NYJUNC says Herm is a helluva field general..

[johnny green balls]

let me be the first to label every offseason for the rest of herm's tenure a failure.

[johnny green balls]

The offense has been officially hermanized. Who will play oline for the chiefs this year? Traffic Cones?

Herm still doesnt quite understand that you cannot sign UDFA and plug them into the OLINE and expect all to go well. Players will get hurt. Chad Pennington 2005 hurt.

Goodness they are going to suck.

"it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb." herm's safe at least another year.

[Mehl56]

Its obviously the coordinators fault - next year the firings begin - first the offensive coordinator, then the defensive one and then...

[SouthernJet]

"it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb." herm's safe at least another year.

Herms Escape Goat Rules 101:

Step 1 = 2006 . Be inadequate and Destroy team. Draft a young QB for future Bus needs.

Step 2 - 2007. Play the new QB and announce to press "it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb."

Step 3 = 2008. 'Well the QB now knows the system better and we expect better things this year. But remember, its a learning process'

Step 4 = 2009. Go back and start over at Step 1.

[EM31]

This stuff just never gets old now that it is happaning on another team.

[raffyD]

Herms Escape Goat Rules 101:

Step 1 = 2006 . Be inadequate and Destroy team. Draft a young QB for future Bus needs.

Step 2 - 2007. Play the new QB and announce to press "it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb."

Step 3 = 2008. 'Well the QB now knows the system better and we expect better things this year. But remember, its a learning process'

Step 4 = 2009. Go back and start over at Step 1.

POTW nom, that was excellent and spot on.

[Cant Hackett]

Herms Escape Goat Rules 101:

Step 1 = 2006 . Be inadequate and Destroy team. Draft a young QB for future Bus needs.

Step 2 - 2007. Play the new QB and announce to press "it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb."

Step 3 = 2008. 'Well the QB now knows the system better and we expect better things this year. But remember, its a learning process'

Step 4 = 2009. Go back and start over at Step 1.

SJ, you left off firing the offensive and defensive coordinators

[johnny green balls]

SJ, you left off firing the offensive and defensive coordinators

OC solari is definitely getting booted this year, he already had a partial tossing the first or second game last season and their offense is going to be terrible this year. herm "setup" edwards has him marinating for bus duty. KC's sports page will lead with the story "Sorry, Solari!" before week 8, bank on it.

[EM31]

OC solari is definitely getting booted this year, he already had a partial tossing the first or second game last season and their offense is going to be terrible this year. herm "setup" edwards has him marinating for bus duty. KC's sports page will lead with the story "Sorry, Solari!" before week 8, bank on it.

Not only that but Herm will attempt to spin himself as being a tragic hero for "carrying" the incompetant coodinator for so long. This all having to do with Herm's high moral character and that good stuff...

Then the team will need time to adjust to the new coordinator. Getting onto the same run run run punt page doncha know Takes a while.

I think we have already heard bits and pieces from Herm suggesting that he inherited and old team so I am sure an extra little while will be needed to complete the retooling.

My money is still on KC to be better than the Raiders this year in the west but it might be close.

[nyjunc]

This is the same team that was lighting it up on offense only two short years ago.

Would you rather look pretty on offense and MISS the playoffs or not be as good offensively and make the playoffs? last I checked the goal wasn't to have a great offense and lose.

[BP]

Would you rather look pretty on offense and MISS the playoffs or not be as good offensively and make the playoffs? last I checked the goal wasn't to have a great offense and lose.

But the problem is that Herm said he wasn't going to touch the offense,and he was 100% absolutely full of ****,can't you see that?

How do you expect the players to think after hearing mixed messages from this idiot all the time.

[nyjunc]

Herms Escape Goat Rules 101:

Step 1 = 2006 . Be inadequate and Destroy team. Draft a young QB for future Bus needs.

Step 2 - 2007. Play the new QB and announce to press "it's tough winning with a first-year starting qb."

Step 3 = 2008. 'Well the QB now knows the system better and we expect better things this year. But remember, its a learning process'

Step 4 = 2009. Go back and start over at Step 1.

What team did he destroy? he took over a team that missed th playoffs 2 straight years and 7 of 8 years and he guided them in year 1. How exactly did he destroy them? Did I miss all the SB's KC was winning before Herm got there? this is afranchise w/ ZERO playoff wins since 1994- what exactly was he destorying?

[jets rooter]

This is the same team that was lighting it up on offense only two short years ago.

leave it to beaver [herman edwards] everything he touches turns to ****-t.thank god the jets traded him for a 4th rounder.

[Green DNA]

Would you rather look pretty on offense and MISS the playoffs or not be as good offensively and make the playoffs? last I checked the goal wasn't to have a great offense and lose.

The only reason the Chiefs made the playoffs last year was because the stars aligned perfectly and the most unlikely playoff tiebreaker scenario broke the Chiefs way. The point is that in two years, the offense has gone from being one of the very best in the league to one the the absolute worst. This team will finish 4-12 this year thanks to Herm. the team wrecking buffoon.

[nyjunc]

But the problem is that Herm said he wasn't going to touch the offense,and he was 100% absolutely full of ****,can't you see that?

What did he do to the offense? They lost a HOF LT and another starting OL, their PB FB AND their starting QB for most of the year. Everyone as fails to realize how much better the D was but he only gets blamed when things go wrog an doesn't get credit when things go right?

[johnny green balls]

What did he do to the offense? They lost a HOF LT and another starting OL, their PB FB AND their starting QB for most of the year. Everyone as fails to realize how much better the D was but he only gets blamed when things go wrog an doesn't get credit when things go right?

amazingly that's exactly what herm's excuse was. injuries happen, retirement happens, what herm's great fault is not anticipating and preparing for them-- he literally thought he could talk shields and roaf out of retirement and he depended on being successful. smart coaches try to keep them but get a couple guys for depth and in case they made up their minds already. he's an egoist of the 10th level, he thinks his flimflam is some jedi mind trick that people can't resist. every team has these issues. do you think the patriots will cry and whine when troy brown retires?when the spell is over kc will be left with one helluva hangover and a decimated team with no cap room.

[nyjunc]

The only reason the Chiefs made the playoffs last year was because the stars aligned perfectly and the most unlikely playoff tiebreaker scenario broke the Chiefs way. The point is that in two years, the offense has gone from being one of the very best in the league to one the the absolute worst. This team will finsih 4-12 this year thanks to Herm. the team wrecking buffoon.

it's amazing how the stars always align perfectly? They won the games they needed to win and in week 17 they beat the team that beat us 41-0.

[nyjunc]

amazingly that's exactly what herm's excuse was. injuries happen, retirement happens, what herm's great fault is not anticipating and preparing for them. every team has these issues. do you think the patriots will cry and whine when troy brown retires?

He didn't make any excuses, he went out and took a team to the playoffsthat hadn't beenthere in 3 years and had been there once in 8 years.

W/ less talent on offense KC scored 331 points while the Jets scored 316. The bottom line is he guided that team to the playoffs, he improved the D and the O was good enough. it's damn impressive that he could lead them to a 5-3 record w/ Damon Huard as the starting QB.

[BP]

What did he do to the offense? They lost a HOF LT and another starting OL, their PB FB AND their starting QB for most of the year. Everyone as fails to realize how much better the D was but he only gets blamed when things go wrog an doesn't get credit when things go right?

You're stubborn dude,you make up excuse after excuse for the guy and make it seem like he never made any mistakes,it's hilarious how much you love Herm.

[Pragmatic Bus]

i am ashamed because hermie is my alumni

[johnny green balls]

He didn't make any excuses, he went out and took a team to the playoffsthat hadn't beenthere in 3 years and had been there once in 8 years.

W/ less talent on offense KC scored 331 points while the Jets scored 316. The bottom line is he guided that team to the playoffs, he improved the D and the O was good enough. it's damn impressive that he could lead them to a 5-3 record w/ Damon Huard as the starting QB.

less talent?? are you freaking nuts? gonzo, LJ, trent green-- come on man. you're just saying the jets have talent because mangenius got them to over-achieve last year without a running back no less. at the beginning of last season everyone said the jets were one of the least talented teams when the reality is herm had them underperforming and now mangini has them overperforming. the virtually identical "talentless" chiefs O was setting offensive recrods 2 years ago. don't give me that bull****.

[drago]

The only reason the Chiefs made the playoffs last year was because the stars aligned perfectly and the most unlikely playoff tiebreaker scenario broke the Chiefs way. The point is that in two years, the offense has gone from being one of the very best in the league to one the the absolute worst. This team will finish 4-12 this year thanks to Herm. the team wrecking buffoon.

4 and 12? Say what? Please tell me how they are going to score more points than the other team 4 times in a season. I'd love to hear it.

If they get 2 wins next year, the sky is falling.

[JohnnyLV]

Let's face it: It took Jets fans a long time to realize tha Herm was the problem and not Hackett or Cotrell or Henderson. The thing is though is that everyone in the league should know now that Herm is a terrible head coach, yet KC traded a draft pick for him, and he is systematically ruining KC just like he almost ruined us. It is really amazing actually.

[KSJets]

He didn't make any excuses, he went out and took a team to the playoffsthat hadn't beenthere in 3 years and had been there once in 8 years.

W/ less talent on offense KC scored 331 points while the Jets scored 316. The bottom line is he guided that team to the playoffs, he improved the D and the O was good enough. it's damn impressive that he could lead them to a 5-3 record w/ Damon Huard as the starting QB.

Hey junc, how is that new hermlovers.com website coming?

[rick34125]

and i was looking forward to the jets playing a meaningful week 17 game against another playoff contender. oh well...

[JetsMan57]

Would you rather look pretty on offense and MISS the playoffs or not be as good offensively and make the playoffs? last I checked the goal wasn't to have a great offense and lose.

And last i checked the goal wasnt to make hte playoffs, but to win a super bowl. And you dont win super bowls with the OLINE the Chiefs will be sporting come the second week of september.

[JetsMan57]

Let's face it: It took Jets fans a long time to realize tha Herm was the problem and not Hackett or Cotrell or Henderson.

Speak for yourself. I knew we were going nowhere with Herm very early. Gave him a pass in 2001 cause he was a rookie, but when I saw us come out of the gates unprepared and out of shape for the start of the 2002 season and when I saw that Herm still couldnt tell time I knew he was hopeless.

If you want to win 9, 10 games and get embarrassed int he playoffs herm is your guy. If you want to win a super bowl look elsewhere.

[Jet Moses]

Wow, a Hermy thread, and I've yet to chime in.

[green_blood]

nyjunc, are you herm edwards' cousin or something? it would even be funnier if you were actually herm edwards trying to salvage his name.

[Sperm Edwards]

nyjunc, are you herm edwards' cousin or something? it would even be funnier if you were actually herm edwards trying to salvage his name.

Please. What kind of person would take the time to post as another person & then defend himself through the mouth of said fictitious poster? Couldn't happen.

[nyjunc]

You're stubborn dude,you make up excuse after excuse for the guy and make it seem like he never made any mistakes,it's hilarious how much you love Herm.

So you think losing a HOF LT, another starting OL, a PB FB and a starting QB for most of the year shouldn't affect a team? and yet he still guided them to the playoffs.