TheSage Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It seem like when we're down at the 1-3 yard line we either hand off into a brick wall or throw a fade to the corner. is there a bootleg option for a mobile QB in out playbook or some other play where out atletic but undersized O line doesn't get collapsed? And while I'm in the playbook does anyone have stats on the efficacy of Brad Smith at QB which doesn't receive acceptable grades in my book. Not ranting love Mangini and how the D has reaponded with him since he seemed to have taken over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It seem like when we're down at the 1-3 yard line we either hand off into a brick wall or throw a fade to the corner. is there a bootleg option for a mobile QB in out playbook or some other play where out atletic but undersized O line doesn't get collapsed? And while I'm in the playbook does anyone have stats on the efficacy of Brad Smith at QB which doesn't receive acceptable grades in my book. Not ranting love Mangini and how the D has reaponded with him since he seemed to have taken over. Ya God damn right we do!!!! It is called "the protect the FG play" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yes we do its called a Clemens fades back and throws the ball into the ground or a defenders hands. Rhodes makes it in the endzone yesterday the outcome of the game changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 yes we do-unfortunately none of them work-when WAS the last time we saw that fade pattern work anyway? Oh yea-it was the New England game LAST YEAR with Cotchery-we're the only NFL team that can't ever pick up a short yardage 1st down if the QB ain't running it himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Of course we do -- we are just waiting for the right time to implement them -- this way we catch em off guard -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yesterday I was screaming @ the TV for a bootleg play on the goal line....WTF?! Play calling has been horrible this year, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The fade pass was Chad's strength, but we didn't have the receivers for it. We still have the same receivers and a different QB, and we are still trying it. With Clemens arm strength, I would try slants and rollouts. But what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseyjet Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Ya God damn right we do!!!! It is called "the protect the FG play" Maybe but if cotch. or coles ever just stopped dead while running towards that cornner in the endzone the defense would run right past them and it would be a wide open TD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJetFan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 What we need to do is add to our O-line with a new LG and new RT. Big powerful men who can plow forward and move the pile. The last time I remember us doing that very regularly were the Parcells era and in 2004 when Curtis had that great year. Otherwise, it just seems normal to see the offensive line being pushed backward by the oppenent Defense. Consider that Will Montgomery was on the field yesterday. He is backing up Adrien Clarke, who was a mediocre backup for the Eagles. We NEED to upgrade that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 people forget but Cedric Houston was the short yardage/goalline back last year and was going to fill the same role this year, before he retired. make no mistake Cedric Houston would have gotten that TD, it's not necessarily Tangini's fault that they don't have a short yardage back, it's not even Thomas Jones' fault when they try to use him as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 people forget but Cedric Houston was the short yardage/goalline back last year and was going to fill the same role this year, before he retired. make no mistake Cedric Houston would have gotten that TD, it's not necessarily Tangini's fault that they don't have a short yardage back, it's not even Thomas Jones' fault when they try to use him as such. I don't think it's that difficult to find a power runner with an unimpressive 40 time. Why not use that kid who just got plucked off our practice squad. He was a good 15 lbs bigger than Cedric Houston anyway. I mean he can't have had NO power at that size unless he's a big dancer like Dayne was. Or someone like a Samkon Gado or TJ Duckett. These guys are available every season. I don't accept that we are doomed to having no goal-line back for the entire season because the great Cedric Houston ditched us over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't think it's that difficult to find a power runner with an unimpressive 40 time. Why not use that kid who just got plucked off our practice squad. He was a good 15 lbs bigger than Cedric Houston anyway. I mean he can't have had NO power at that size unless he's a big dancer like Dayne was. Or someone like a Samkon Gado or TJ Duckett. These guys are available every season. I don't accept that we are doomed to having no goal-line back for the entire season because the great Cedric Houston ditched us over the summer. didn't we have one??? D ward?????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 didn't we have one??? D ward?????????????????????? Ward was lost under the Herm regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't accept that we are doomed to having no goal-line back for the entire season because the great Cedric Houston ditched us over the summer. you don't have to accept it, but that's the way it worked out. Even Gado and Duckett were already on rosters. remember that Houston retired after FA and the draft. so unless they were going to replace him with a street free agent there weren't any more moves to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Blame the offensive line for not being able to move the line of scrimmage down close also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Blame the offensive line for not being able to move the line of scrimmage down close also. I don't care what anyone says Jones could ahve gotten in the endzone on that 1st attempt. Like I said in the gamethread (cheers for the Neg rep Jetcane for that) that 90 percent of the backs in the league would have gotton in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I don't care what anyone says Jones could ahve gotten in the endzone on that 1st attempt. Like I said in the gamethread (cheers for the Neg rep Jetcane for that) that 90 percent of the backs in the league would have gotton in. Thomas Jones has a reputation long known in the league as a guy who looks like he should be able to get the tough yard, but can't. there is a reason why this player gets great stats year after year yet is on his 4th NFL franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thomas Jones has a reputation long known in the league as a guy who looks like he should be able to get the tough yard, but can't. there is a reason why this player gets great stats year after year yet is on his 4th NFL franchise. his bro is the exact same, just awful in short yardage. Hence the reason Marion Barber always has so many more TD's than him. Jones can't cut it down there, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thomas Jones has a reputation long known in the league as a guy who looks like he should be able to get the tough yard, but can't. there is a reason why this player gets great stats year after year yet is on his 4th NFL franchise. MB3 is amazing. the most fun back to watch in the league. he could probably be a feature but keeping him fresh adds to his effectiveness. he's gotta be the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 And who did Mangini and Tanne bring in to handle the goal line carries?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Just put an DL in there at fullback and let him open the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Why dont we just give Leon more oppurtunities. i dont care how small he is, I'd give him the damn ball before i would TJ. I hate the way we have such a great talent in Leon which is basically going to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaJetFan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think we would have won yesterday if we used Leon about 30% more. He was very fresh, and he excels in the 2 minute offense. On those draws that TJ got 16 yards, he would have had 30+. Also, put DROB in there at fullback. HEck, just give him the ball down on the one and let him rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think we would have won yesterday if we used Leon about 30% more. He was very fresh, and he excels in the 2 minute offense. On those draws that TJ got 16 yards, he would have had 30+. Also, put DROB in there at fullback. HEck, just give him the ball down on the one and let him rumble. He can't even play on his own damn side of the ball so i doubt he could play elsewher TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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