Vudu Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 a Maybe for JETS HC next season? Good or bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 a Maybe for JETS HC next season? Good or bad idea? Cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Awesome let's bring in Spags and start selling off all these 3 - 4 parts. Long live the 4 - 3. Hopefully they have enough cap room to resign Vilma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 COWHER POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why is everyone so sold on Bill Cowher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why is everyone so sold on Bill Cowher? he is tough and he is good yung jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal Jet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 We need a coach who can run a 3-4 D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why is everyone so sold on Bill Cowher? I know you're too young to have actually watched, so just go to wiki and look him up and check that record out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 *kicks rocks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'd be happy with Spagnuolo. He seems like he's got a very good defensive mind, and his players seem to like him. Whether or not he can run a football team remains to be seen. Hiring a bright young football mind to stick with the team for a decade can work out great (Cowher in Pittsburgh) or it can fail miserably (Mangini). Cowher is obviously much lower-risk, but he's potentially lower-reward as well, considering his age and the fact that he has nothing to prove. Could be a repeat of the Parcells era. I'd still take him, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCoztanza Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why is everyone so sold on Bill Cowher? He won a Super Bowl and was coach of a perennial contender for a decade and a half even though he didn't have a good quarterback for more than half of those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why is everyone so sold on Bill Cowher? He took ****ty/average/good teams and won playoff games with them... then once he had a real contender he won it all. He constantly won... never needed excuses... never needed "his guys"... the list goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'd be happy with Spagnuolo. He seems like he's got a very good defensive mind, and his players seem to like him. Whether or not he can run a football team remains to be seen. Hiring a bright young football mind to stick with the team for a decade can work out great (Cowher in Pittsburgh) or it can fail miserably (Mangini). Cowher is obviously much lower-risk, but he's potentially lower-reward as well, considering his age and the fact that he has nothing to prove. Could be a repeat of the Parcells era. I'd still take him, of course. There was no evidence that Mangini was a bright, young football mind. none whatsoever. He took over the NE defense for 1 season and ran it into the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 cowher had his job 15 years right??/ what jets coach can hold a job that damn long nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 There was no evidence that Mangini was a bright, young football mind. none whatsoever. He took over the NE defense for 1 season and ran it into the ground... Fair point, but perception = reality. In 2006, people said (wanted to believe?) that he was a bright young mind, whether he was or not. As it turned out, he wasn't, but people (more than just Jets fans) thought he was a solid hire at the time. They just overestimated his experience and underestimated Belichick's control over and effect on that defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 We really can't afford to have another 3 year adjustment to the 4-3 system. He's a great DC though, I like him a lot. Rex Ryan would be someone I'd consider if we're talking DC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 We really can't afford to have another 3 year adjustment to the 4-3 system. We wouldn't need to. As long as we don't run a speed-based cover 2, we could switch to a 4-3 pretty easily (it's much easier to go from a 3-4 to a 4-3 than to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4, as Mangini & Co. has proven). Spagnuolo runs an aggressive, blitz-heavy 4-3, with a good amount of man coverage, so we could make the adjustment pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 we dont have the LBs IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 we dont have the LBs IMO It would be a transition, no doubt, but nothing like the ordeal we've endured under Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Cowher. Cowher. Definitely. He might actually be interested too, what with his daughter playing basketball at Princeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSorDIE Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 a Maybe for JETS HC next season? Good or bad idea? if we dont get Cowher.. then i all for the Spaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I would be surprised if Mangini is fired, they will throw a couple of coach's under the bus like Sutton an others and that is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 just what we need, another experiment...we've had 8 seasons of failed HC experiments between Mangini and The Idiot...hey Woody GET US A REAL HEAD COACH-a hall of famer LIKE COWHER-won't happen though, sorry...he'll be in frickin Cleveland or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 a Maybe for JETS HC next season? Good or bad idea? BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Not another coordinator who basks in glory of HC whose strength on same side of ball (coughlin/spags,,,belly/romeo/mangini)..not sayin he wont be good, but we need PROVEN... Cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 We need a coach who can run a 3-4 D. The best reason that I've heard. that actually made sense. 90% of the people screaming Bill Cowher couldnt even give such a good answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I would be surprised if Mangini is fired, they will throw a couple of coach's under the bus like Sutton an others and that is it. Na, he's been here for three years and has spent over 200 million and got a HOF QB to make it atleast to the first round. I'm ready for a new HC as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I like Spagnuolo as much as anybody out there, but as I've said before, just because a guy is a great co-ordinator that doesn't mean that he will be able to bring that to the team he takes over as head coach. Dungy in Indy? All O. Marv Lewis in Cincy? Where is that punishing D? Brian Billick? Sure he won a Super Bowl, but it wasn't with the record setting O he was supposed to bring from Minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why on earth would Cowher or anyone else want to coach here? I wouldn't. The Jets are definitely cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 This is a veteran team in need of a proven HC. Spags won't do. The Jets need Cowher, Marty Schottenheimer, or even Holmgren if they can convince his wife to let him coach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Cowher was on the hot seat and about to be fired before a change at DC saved his a$$. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Cowher was on the hot seat and about to be fired before a change at DC saved his a$$. Just saying. When was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscott Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Cowher was on the hot seat and about to be fired before a change at DC saved his a$$. Just saying. you're right. He lost as many or more big games as he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 When was this? He was 6-10 in 2003 before Dick Lebeau came back and brought Blitzburgh back. You guys have short memories. Prior to that he was known as the coach who just couldn't bring them over the top. Still not sure he can without the perfect personel and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 you're right. He lost as many or more big games as he won. Jets fans are like Yankees fans. They want the flavor of the week and think that flavor alone will solve all of thier problems. The problem is one person doesn't do it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I don't recall one instance his entire career with us that Cowher was on the hot seat. Not one. Now we fans were plenty PO'd at times but Dan Rooney never once wavered. He's not that type of owner. Cowher was saddled with plenty of mediocre QB's and that wasn't even the organization's fault. He was the one with most input on the draft. He always felt he could win with who he had. Now ya can blame him for that type of stuff, but not once was he on the hot seat. That guy will bring attitude and identity to whomever gets him. They will be a team that runs the ball and stops the run first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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