kelticwizard Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Cornerback is not an easy position to play. Cromartie is clearly a lesser talent than Revis, but he still is probably one of the top 10 corners in the league. He steps up and looks terrific some plays, looks awful on others. We saw that tonight. What makes Revis different is consistency-he plays great every game, looks good most every play when he's healthy. Without Revis we are a plucky defense with some playmakers who will fight fight fight. With Revis we are a defense who will bulldoze you. Yes Revis asked for a ton of cash but we saw how vulnerable our defense can be without him. I'm just glad Darelle will be coming back in a couple of weeks to raise our defense level from "good and tough" to "best". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Revis is great, we can't win without him. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yep, having Revis makes a huge difference. Not just because he's so good, but because offenses have to account for him and find where he is on the field and who he's covering. It makes the job of the other corners much easier. Tonight, having Revis on Marshall with Cro and Wilson covering Bess/Hartline would have made a GIGANTIC difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 We need him, that was too close and Cromatie needs to stay away from the #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 For some reason this team brings out the worst in our D every game. Just watch what they do next week against the Pats. Henne is crap and his WR's other than Marhsall are crap against every other team but the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 None at all. At least he exists...a DL, young pass rusher, and FS would be nice too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyandthejets Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 we need him... 0_0 like srsly. I bet the pats feel ashamed of themselves that Chad Henne played better than brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 No one can do what Revis does, he's insanely good. Adding Revis and Pace to this team is almost unfair. Hopefully we beat the Bills without them (That will be a tough one, watch) and they come back 100%. Don't want Revis risking anything with that hamstring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 what his return will do is allow wilson to go back to the nickel, and cro to go back to the #2 guy, and give rex the confidence to bring heat pretty amazing hope his god damned hammy stays healthy I'd sit him another week unless he practices wednesday at full go he's that important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 For some reason this team brings out the worst in our D every game. Just watch what they do next week against the Pats. Henne is crap and his WR's other than Marhsall are crap against every other team but the Jets. the reason is henning. he is in rex's head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 When's Pace coming back too? I can't believe I forgot him when it came to that OLB thing...this D should be nice in the 2nd half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Revis is awesome. But there's more than just him. The defense is missing 3 starters, not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Pace back next week and Revis back the week after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Hopefully we beat the Bills without them (That will be a tough one, watch) 100 % agree. Classic road trap game, and I have a feeling that C.J. Spiller is going to give us fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 100 % agree. Classic road trap game, and I have a feeling that C.J. Spiller is going to give us fits. I have a feeling it will be 8 and 9 in the box all game for us. If Fitzpatrick and their recievers beat us in man coverage, they deserve to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 No Pace, No Jenks, No Island, No Problem! Thank God most of that is coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 While Revis is clearly important, let's not pretend like that's the only reason the defense struggled today. They shutout the Pats in the second half last week without him, and the jets defense was even worse in Miami last year than they were this year. Don't get me wrong, it'll be great when he's back healthy, but there were more problems than his absence tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I never had doubt. For what its worth though, Cro went up against one of the best in the league tonight. He wasnt going against a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 100 % agree. Classic road trap game, and I have a feeling that C.J. Spiller is going to give us fits. The Jets stop the run. The Jets will stop a rookie back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 The Jets stop the run. The Jets will stop a rookie back. It's the Bills, bad things always happen against the ******* Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Also, this game is around 31-14 if Revis plays. Taylor did well enough at OLB, so Pace's absence wasn't missed as much. The secondary was completely lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Jets can blitz like they do bc of Revis. Soft coverage today...bend but dont break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 While Revis is clearly important, let's not pretend like that's the only reason the defense struggled today. They shutout the Pats in the second half last week without him, and the jets defense was even worse in Miami last year than they were this year. Don't get me wrong, it'll be great when he's back healthy, but there were more problems than his absence tonight. I'll chalk it up to humidity and move on. This game was almost a mirror image to last year's game in Miami. Night game, hot and humid, and an offensive shootout. If we're struggling this badly against, say, Buffalo, then we can start to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 It's the Bills, bad things always happen against the ******* Bills. Normally, I'd agree. I was at the Quincy Carter game up in Buffalo, so I've seen misery up North. But the Bills don't have the horses in the trenches to hang. The Jets will manhandle them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Normally, I'd agree. I was at the Quincy Carter game up in Buffalo, so I've seen misery up North. But the Bills don't have the horses in the trenches to hang. The Jets will manhandle them. The Jets should manhandle them. I'll say that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jpf4671 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Us losing revis is the same as the steelers losing Troy p., man do we need this guy back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Besides Wilson's early mistakes, the problem with the D was the heat. Football wasn't meant to be played at 87 degrees (with humidity) at 10 pm at night. Yes, the Fins were playing in those conditions as well but they train in it for the whole offseason and preseason. There's a reason why non southern teams struggle there in September and early October. Play that game in normal football temperatures and the game is a blow out rather than an 8 point victory, which is large in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Besides Wilson's early mistakes, the problem with the D was the heat. Football wasn't meant to be played at 87 degrees (with humidity) at 10 pm at night. Yes, the Fins were playing in those conditions as well but they train in it for the whole offseason and preseason. There's a reason why non southern teams struggle there in September and early October. Play that game in normal football temperatures and the game is a blow out rather than an 8 point victory, which is large in and of itself. I don't know if it's a blowout but I completely agree about the conditions. We all gloss over it because we're not playing in those conditions. But as conditioned as you are, you're still going to be gassed on defense by the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Besides Wilson's early mistakes, the problem with the D was the heat. Football wasn't meant to be played at 87 degrees (with humidity) at 10 pm at night. Yes, the Fins were playing in those conditions as well but they train in it for the whole offseason and preseason. There's a reason why non southern teams struggle there in September and early October. Play that game in normal football temperatures and the game is a blow out rather than an 8 point victory, which is large in and of itself. HEat could be used as an excuse in December but not in September. This was actully the best time for us to play them in their place because I think the Heat would have effected us much worse in December. When they come to play us lets hope its 20 degrees with a -10 wind chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I don't know how Buffalo will score. Maybe off of CJ Spiller kick returns. Roscoe Parrish is pretty good too I guess but Trent Edwards is just so awful. For some strange reason, Buffalo doesn't like using Spiller on offense, so he isn't really a worry as an RB. Buffalo also has a fairly soft run D, so LT and Greene will probably score 3 TDs between the two of them. LT is the better and more versatile back, but this is an easy matchup tailor made for Greene. As much as it would annoy me for fantasy, I think a great strategy would be to randomly use the RB to screw with opposing defenses, as Greene and LT are fairly different runners, then feature one or the other while lying about who will start. It worked for the Ravens a few years ago at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Trent Edwards is just so awful. Its Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB now, and he dropped 30 points on New England in Foxborough. Horrid defense or good offense? Possibly a combination of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Revis is awesome. But there's more than just him. The defense is missing 3 starters, not one. Good point. However, The Front 7 did very well today with Pouha and Taylor. It was our secondary that got their asses handed to them for almost 400 yds and a couple TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Getting out of Miami with a win without the teams best player is a victory any way you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 While Revis is clearly important, let's not pretend like that's the only reason the defense struggled today. They shutout the Pats in the second half last week without him, and the jets defense was even worse in Miami last year than they were this year. Don't get me wrong, it'll be great when he's back healthy, but there were more problems than his absence tonight. Football is a game of match-ups. Cromartie happens to match up well on Randy Moss. He can run with him stride for stride, and Moss isn't exactly known for his toughness. But he's a terrible match-up on Marshall, who's bigger and stronger and plays that way. Revis is good enough to match up well with just about anyone, although the true burners (like Ginn) can give him trouble. But Revis will swallow Marshall whole. His absence played a huge role in the defensive struggles last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 HEat could be used as an excuse in December but not in September. This was actully the best time for us to play them in their place because I think the Heat would have effected us much worse in December. When they come to play us lets hope its 20 degrees with a -10 wind chill. Gotta disagree, Smash. The rule of thumb in the AFCE has always been: play Buffalo on the road early and Miami late. Avoid the bitter cold in Buffalo in December and the brutal heat in Miami in September, early October. Playing against Miami on the road in December is ideal. The Jets D got gassed. The D shut down the defense early in the game, but then lo and behold, Miami starts to move the ball. Why? The conditions is a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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