Klecko73isGod Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I think this guy was underutilized by the Jags the last couple of years with the emergence of Marcedes Lewis. I think he'd be a solid #2 TE who can actually catch. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I think this guy was underutilized by the Jags the last couple of years with the emergence of Marcedes Lewis. I think he'd be a solid #2 TE who can actually catch. Any thoughts? Hey Kleck you got the wrong guy the Zach Miller that is available is from Oakland, he is not a #2 he would be a HUGE upgrade over Keller, and I love Keller thats how good he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 zach miller from oakland is nasty but he will command a sh*t ton of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 And HELL YES if the Jets can find the room in the cap to sign this beast do it, Yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19andOhWait Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The Raiders are still fully expected to retain free agent TE Zach Miller, according to beat writer Steve Corkran. The Raiders are simply "tying up loose ends" and cleaning up their accounting before giving Miller his long-term deal. Barring a stunning last-minute massive offer from another team, Miller will be back as Oakland's every-down tight end. Just like all veteran free agents, he wouldn't be able to practice until Thursday anyway, even if a deal was done. Aug 1, 8:22 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Any TE from Oakland brings back bad Doug Jolley memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Miller would be an absolute monster here, but I don't see how the Raiders let him get away. They'll throw stupid money at him. He's been one of their only reliable offensive players since he came into the league. Would love him here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hey Kleck you got the wrong guy the Zach Miller that is available is from Oakland, he is not a #2 he would be a HUGE upgrade over Keller, and I love Keller thats how good he is. My bad. The Raiders Zach Miller is still available? I don't understand how that is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 No way. Gimme Kevin Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Zach Miller should've been a Miami Dolphin days ago....WTF are we doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Any TE from Oakland brings back bad Doug Jolley memories. Thanks. I had forgotten about Jolley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Zach Miller from Oakland was one of the most talented free agents available this offseason. Holmes, Cro, Miller would be the equivalent of cleaning up - beyond the level of what Philly has added. Suggestion: sign Miller, trade Keller for Safety. Also add a blocking TE. Miller would lead the team in receptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Boss or miller would be coups, but ESPECIALLY Miller. Integrity I like the idea of trading Keller for a safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Boss or miller would be coups, but ESPECIALLY Miller. Integrity I like the idea of trading Keller for a safety contingent on signin a TE like Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Boss I wouldn't mind. Miller would give me wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Breaking news: Eagles sign Zach Miller. Just kidding...for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hey Kleck you got the wrong guy the Zach Miller that is available is from Oakland, he is not a #2 he would be a HUGE upgrade over Keller, and I love Keller thats how good he is. Keller's problem is Schotty. Calling Miller a huge upgrade is really uncertain on top of the fact that it'll be a downgrade in Millers career if he came here because Schotty doesnt utilize TE's with talent....like Keller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Keller's problem is Schotty. Calling Miller a huge upgrade is really uncertain on top of the fact that it'll be a downgrade in Millers career if he came here because Schotty doesnt utilize TE's with talent....like Keller. Nonsense. Schotty doesn't make Keller fall down when the ball is thrown to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nonsense. Schotty doesn't make Keller fall down when the ball is thrown to him. Nonsense? Keller was the best TE in the first qtr of the season last year when we threw to him. Santonio got off suspension and I didnt see any plays that utilized the TE position the way it should have afterwards. Schotty's a f'ing tool. Its nonsense for him to still be our damn OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nonsense? Keller was the best TE in the first qtr of the season last year when we threw to him. Santonio got off suspension and I didnt see any plays that utilized the TE position the way it should have afterwards. Schotty's a f'ing tool. Its nonsense for him to still be our damn OC. You don't have to convince me of Schotty's flaws. However, you can't entire put Keller's lack of production on Schotty. Keller runs hot and cold. In games where he does get targeted a lot he's just as likely to disappear as he is to catch 8 balls for 80 yards. and there is no denying he falls down untouched, more than he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You don't have to convince me of Schotty's flaws. However, you can't entire put Keller's lack of production on Schotty. Keller runs hot and cold. In games where he does get targeted a lot he's just as likely to disappear as he is to catch 8 balls for 80 yards. and there is no denying he falls down untouched, more than he should. Maybe its me that's never picked it up but I dont see Keller falling untouched too often. That could be true, however, from what I see most of the time when Keller disappears from games isnt because he's not trying to get open etc., its because the plays are not designed to get him the ball. You're right though, I cant put it all on Schotty, but lets keep it real, Schotty isnt helping, and neither is Sanchez decision making sometimes. Overall, I dont think we have a problem at TE. Picking up another good TE is never a bad thing, but its certainly not a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I dont think we have the money for boss or miller but either one would be huge upgrade in the toughness category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 http://espn.go.com/b...eal-zach-miller Seahawks trying to sign Zach Miller Napa, Calif.-- I’m at the Oakland Raiders’ training site, but where is Pro Bowl tight end Zach Miller? Oh, that’s right, he’s being wooed in Seattleby the deepest pockets in the NFL. I was on my way to Napa when Ireceived a phone call from a league source saying that Miller was visiting the Seattle Seahawks andthey are bent on keeping him there. It’s a stunning development. Miller was widely expected to soon re-sign withthe Raiders. Oakland coach HueJackson hinted Sunday he expected Miller would be with the team soon andseveral of his teammates said the same thing. It appeared that Miller was waiting for Oaklandto clear enough cap room to give him a suitable deal after he unexpectedlywasn’t getting much interest on the open market. New, he has the interest. And now he’s in Paul Allen’s house. That may not be a good sign for the Raiders. All indications are that theSeahawks plan on signing Miller. If he made the trip up North, it’s obvious Miller is willing to go elsewhere.Perhaps he made the trip to let the Raiders know he is losing patience. But again, Allen’s money talks. This would be great revenge inflicted by former Oaklandcoach Tom Cable after being fired by Al David in January. Cable has alreadybrought guard Robert Gallery tothe Pacific Northwest. Oaklandexpected Gallery to leave, but adding Miller would really hurt the Raiders.<br style="mso-special-character:line-break"><br style="mso-special-character:line-break"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Zach Miller from Oakland was one of the most talented free agents available this offseason. Holmes, Cro, Miller would be the equivalent of cleaning up - beyond the level of what Philly has added. Suggestion: sign Miller, trade Keller for Safety. Also add a blocking TE. Miller would lead the team in receptions. like this op is a maroon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe its me that's never picked it up but I dont see Keller falling untouched too often. That could be true, however, from what I see most of the time when Keller disappears from games isnt because he's not trying to get open etc., its because the plays are not designed to get him the ball. You're right though, I cant put it all on Schotty, but lets keep it real, Schotty isnt helping, and neither is Sanchez decision making sometimes. Overall, I dont think we have a problem at TE. Picking up another good TE is never a bad thing, but its certainly not a need. Keller seems to have little grace and football sense.. i'd love to trade him away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I'm in the "Blame Schotty" camp. Keller's one of those guys who needs the football to be effective and if he's not getting it, he goes to sleep. When he's featured, he's kicked a$$. Then the next game he disappears from the game plan. Get him off the LOS already and stop pretending he's Jason Witten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Keller seems to have little grace and football sense.. i'd love to trade him away I dont know what you're looking at. Thats all I can say. When the football is in Keller's hands its always been a positive thing in my eyes. Maybe im wrong here and dont want to see the truth. But We've had enough trash azz TE's on this team to know what garbage looks like. Keller is a very good TE> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I dont know what you're looking at. Thats all I can say. When the football is in Keller's hands its always been a positive thing in my eyes. Maybe im wrong here and dont want to see the truth. But We've had enough trash azz TE's on this team to know what garbage looks like. Keller is a very good TE> http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te Stats dont show what im saying. You're entited to your your opinion bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/te By those stats Evan Moore and Fred Davis is even a better TE than Keller. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Keller is a dam good TE him being under utilized isnt his fault. This argument is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Stats dont show what im saying. You're entited to your your opinion bro. stats back up what i'm saying, bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 stats back up what i'm saying, bro Oh, I was politely dismissing what you were saying. I wasnt talking to you or about stats because that wasnt the focus of the conversation. Now have at it with the last word. I'll leave it at that bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Keller is a dam good TE him being under utilized isnt his fault. This argument is ridiculous. You're right. And stats dont show that. When he's in the play there's no one who can say with a straight face that this guy doesnt produce. Schotty, and I'll have to throw Rex in there, has Sanchez on a leash. Once they release him then we'll see Keller and the rest of this offense start putting up some impressive numbers. Keller is a legit TE who's up'd his blocking game to the point where thats not a concern anymore too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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