JetNation Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 By Glenn Naughton With the NFL’s version of Black Monday less than 72 hours away, all indications coming out of Florham Park indicate sweeping changes on the horizon for the New York Jets. A fourth consecutive season without a playoff berth appears to have been too much for owner Woody Johnson tolerate and it’s being widely reported that heads are going to roll. Head Coach Rex Ryan has manned the Jets sideline for the duration of that drought, and despite having been in place for just two seasons, General Manager John Idzik is rumored to be on his way out as well. Once Johnson starts handing out pink-slips in place of late Christmas gifts, there’s at least one person the Jets should make every effort to retain. Defensive Line Coach Karl Dunbar is in his third season with the Jets and continues to guide and mentor the team’s most dominant unit. “I can’t play anymore, so I live vicariously through these guys” were Dunbar’s words when interviewed earlier this season by JetNation.com. As with most coaches in the NFL, it’s a passion for Dunbar, but few have a resume quite as impressive as the former 8th round draft pick. Dunbar has been successful at every one of his stops in the NFL as a position coach. When hired by Lovie Smith to join his defensive staff in Chicago before 2004 season, the Bears saw their sack totals climb from 18 in the previous year, to 35 under Dunbar. After coaching for a season at his Alma Mater of LSU, Dunbar returned to the NFL as the defensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings from 2006-2011. In Minnesota, Dunbar’s Vikings allowed a league low 8,141 yards rushing, and sacked the quarterback 242 times, good enough for sixth in the NFL during that time frame. Those were the credentials he brought to the Jets when he was hired by Rex Ryan three years ago. Since arriving in New York, it’s been business as usual for Dunbar’s group. Among the best teams in the NFL against the run this season, and the emergence of Mohammed Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson are great building blocks for the future. Of course, for a position coach to make a name for himself, it’s not the first rounders, but the lesser known players that emerge as legitimate contributors that stand out on a resume. Under Dunbar, the Jets have seen undrafted NT Damon “Snacks” develop in to one of the top players in the NFL at his position. Far from a household name, Leger Douzable has done an excellent job on a rotational basis. 2011 third round pick Kenrick Ellis has flashed tremendous ability when given the chance, and undrafted DT TJ Barnes managed to crack the 53-man roster. Despite limited reps for Barnes, his growth from practice squad player to a back-up on the active roster in such a short span on one of the best defensive lines in the NFL speaks volumes. Under Dunbar, the Jets currently rank second in the NFL allowing 3.5 yards per carry, and are tied for 10th in the NFL in sacks with 43. On a team that’s low on talent and a coaching staff high on turmoil, the Jets would be doing themselves and their young defensive starts a favor by ensuring some continuity and asking Dunbar to return for a fourth season. In 72 hours, we’ll learn the fate for Ryan and Idzik, beyond that the Jets will announce their intentions with the remainder of the staff. If the Jets are serious about winning and turning this thing around, retaining the services of Dunbar would be a big step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I am all for making Dunbar the defensive coordinator with Malzahn as head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Spare no one CLEAN HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Dunbar? For what? Why does he get a pass? Just because he was fortunate enough to have one of the best DL in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Dunbar? For what? Why does he get a pass? Just because he was fortunate enough to have one of the best DL in the league? He has gotten a ton out of the DL, first rounders notwithstanding. Snacks is a good example, and others. The article is right he is the only one worth keeping some of them like Lee and Lal should be fired along with Rex and Idzik regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He can only stay if the new HC wants him. He's done a wonderful job developing the DLine but we can't have anymore "mismashes". Where we hold someone over from a previous regime and force them on a new HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Clean House means cleaning house. If the new HC wants to bring him back great, but let the new HC pick his own staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I have no idea whether Dunbar can call an entire defense. He obviously can coach up line talent. A lot of guys can do that. It should be up to the new GM or the new coach whether Dunbar stays or goes or gets promoted. Not Woody Johnson. Everyone goes, Bradway included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Only an absolute moron would even consider NOT keeping Dunbar. Whether he deserves a promotion remains to be seen. I leave that up to the new HC/GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He has gotten a ton out of the DL, first rounders notwithstanding. Snacks is a good example, and others. The article is right he is the only one worth keeping some of them like Lee and Lal should be fired along with Rex and Idzik regardless. No, because he's one one of the best D-lines in the league everywhere he's been, not just here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Protocal is the new coach would want to bring in his guys- also would Dunbar want to stay himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He has gotten a ton out of the DL, first rounders notwithstanding. Snacks is a good example, and others. The article is right he is the only one worth keeping some of them like Lee and Lal should be fired along with Rex and Idzik regardless. The article is correct. Dunbar is a good coach. Woody should keep him. Special Teams coach McGaughy should be fired also; those blocked field goals would not have happened under the Great Mike Westoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He is a good coach. Hope that the new GM and HC give him consideration. He gets production from his unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Clean House means cleaning house. If the new HC wants to bring him back great, but let the new HC pick his own staff. The way you do that is retain all the coaches under contract, and let the new head coach decide who he wants to keep. If you fire Dunbar, he would almost certainly get a new job before the Jets hired a new head coach. That doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 The way you do that is retain all the coaches under contract, and let the new head coach decide who he wants to keep. If you fire Dunbar, he would almost certainly get a new job before the Jets hired a new head coach. That doesn't work. +1 On Monday you announce that Idzik and WRECKS will not be retained. You announce that the firm of Casserly and Wolf, two members of the NFL committee that assists in management restructures have been contracted to reach out,.interview and make recommendations for a new GM. The new GM be responsible for the search process for a new HC. Messrs C and W will be available to assist if that is desired. All current coordinators and assistants who.are under contract for next season will be retained pending consideration by the new HC but, are of course free to be hired as head coaches under NFL rules if such an opportunity develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 JetNation, on 26 Dec 2014 - 11:05 PM, said: By Glenn Naughton With the NFL’s version of Black Monday less than 72 hours away, all indications coming out of Florham Park indicate sweeping changes on the horizon for the New York Jets. A fourth consecutive season without a playoff berth appears to have been too much for owner Woody Johnson tolerate and it’s being widely reported that heads are going to roll. Head Coach Rex Ryan has manned the Jets sideline for the duration of that drought, and despite having been in place for just two seasons, General Manager John Idzik is rumored to be on his way out as well. Once Johnson starts handing out pink-slips in place of late Christmas gifts, there’s at least one person the Jets should make every effort to retain. Defensive Line Coach Karl Dunbar is in his third season with the Jets and continues to guide and mentor the team’s most dominant unit. “I can’t play anymore, so I live vicariously through these guys” were Dunbar’s words when interviewed earlier this season by JetNation.com. As with most coaches in the NFL, it’s a passion for Dunbar, but few have a resume quite as impressive as the former 8th round draft pick. Dunbar has been successful at every one of his stops in the NFL as a position coach. When hired by Lovie Smith to join his defensive staff in Chicago before 2004 season, the Bears saw their sack totals climb from 18 in the previous year, to 35 under Dunbar. After coaching for a season at his Alma Mater of LSU, Dunbar returned to the NFL as the defensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings from 2006-2011. In Minnesota, Dunbar’s Vikings allowed a league low 8,141 yards rushing, and sacked the quarterback 242 times, good enough for sixth in the NFL during that time frame. Those were the credentials he brought to the Jets when he was hired by Rex Ryan three years ago. Since arriving in New York, it’s been business as usual for Dunbar’s group. Among the best teams in the NFL against the run this season, and the emergence of Mohammed Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson are great building blocks for the future. Of course, for a position coach to make a name for himself, it’s not the first rounders, but the lesser known players that emerge as legitimate contributors that stand out on a resume. Under Dunbar, the Jets have seen undrafted NT Damon “Snacks” develop in to one of the top players in the NFL at his position. Far from a household name, Leger Douzable has done an excellent job on a rotational basis. 2011 third round pick Kenrick Ellis has flashed tremendous ability when given the chance, and undrafted DT TJ Barnes managed to crack the 53-man roster. Despite limited reps for Barnes, his growth from practice squad player to a back-up on the active roster in such a short span on one of the best defensive lines in the NFL speaks volumes. Under Dunbar, the Jets currently rank second in the NFL allowing 3.5 yards per carry, and are tied for 10th in the NFL in sacks with 43. On a team that’s low on talent and a coaching staff high on turmoil, the Jets would be doing themselves and their young defensive starts a favor by ensuring some continuity and asking Dunbar to return for a fourth season. In 72 hours, we’ll learn the fate for Ryan and Idzik, beyond that the Jets will announce their intentions with the remainder of the staff. If the Jets are serious about winning and turning this thing around, retaining the services of Dunbar would be a big step in the right direction. Bull $hit. Our DL still cannot sack the QB without a LB overload, or blitz. Bye Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Bull $hit. Our DL still cannot sack the QB without a LB overload, or blitz. Bye Bye. Hard to sack a QB when wide receivers are wide open all over the field. Get some decent corners in here and this line will shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 What if he doesn't want to work for the next Head Coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 +1 On Monday you announce that Idzik and WRECKS will not be retained. You announce that the firm of Casserly and Wolf, two members of the NFL committee that assists in management restructures have been contracted to reach out,.interview and make recommendations for a new GM. The new GM be responsible for the search process for a new HC. Messrs C and W will be available to assist if that is desired. All current coordinators and assistants who.are under contract for next season will be retained pending consideration by the new HC but, are of course free to be hired as head coaches under NFL rules if such an opportunity develops. Well put, hope this is path followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 What if he doesn't want to work for the next Head Coach? The jets can't make him work, but they can stop him from working somewhere else, But only if he is under contract. Contracts that are complete,expire I believe the 2nd Tuesday after the club played its last game. A lot of teams only hire Asst coaches on year to year deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Bull $hit. Our DL still cannot sack the QB without a LB overload, or blitz. Bye Bye. I don't see how you can blame our 3-4 lineman for the guy who "made" Terrell Suggs inability to develop 1 LBer who can rush the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Bull $hit. Our DL still cannot sack the QB without a LB overload, or blitz. Bye Bye. A 3-4 defense is not designed as a pass rushing defense. What ever rush you get from those 3 is gravy. The rush is supposed to come from alignments. You are supposed to be guessing which one of the OLBs will be rushing from which side, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 A 3-4 defense is not designed as a pass rushing defense. What ever rush you get from those 3 is gravy. The rush is supposed to come from alignments. You are supposed to be guessing which one of the OLBs will be rushing from which side, This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Love that Karl Dunbar seemed happy with this on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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