Here we are at the fork in the road: so who's fault is it ? the coach or the players?

[CanadienJetsFan]

The team went out and wet the bed last night. On national TV to boot...perfect.  Where was the leadership when all was said and done? Revis, Marshall, Fitz, Harris, Breno, Wilk, Sheldon,et al ...no where to be found, heading for the parking lot once the game ended. To me, that is what was most disappointing about last night. I resigned myself to the fact that the season was over weeks ago and that tanking was for the better going forward. But to play with NO pride? WTF?

Regardless of who's coach going forward, last night showed that the time has come to gut out the veteran so-called leadership group and move on. The vacuum will be filled by new leaders ... players whose voices have been drowned out by the over-the-hill elders. Some are already on the roster, others are still to be found including a QB who's ready to lead.

This my fellow long time sufferring Jets fans is called a rebuild...I look forward to it. Now is Bowles still the guy to lead these guys? The next four weeks will tell us alot of those who are still "in ".

 

 

[jetscrazey]

It's both.  The coaches stink.  Bowles may eventually get better as a HC but he's not where he needs to be right now.  Kacy Rodgers is incompetent as is every other defensive assistant.  The whole defensive staff should be gone at a minimum.

The players are garbage too.  QB, O-line, and the entire defense let the team down this season.

 

[CanadienJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, jetscrazey said:

It's both.  The coaches stink.  Bowles may eventually get better as a HC but he's not where he needs to be right now.  Kacy Rodgers is incompetent as is every other defensive assistant.  The whole defensive staff should be gone at a minimum.

The players are garbage too.  QB, O-line, and the entire defense let the team down this season.

 

Agreed, the learning curve is always steep. Will Bowles be given the chance to learn, adjust and improve?..time will tell.

[T0mShane]

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[Adoni Beast]

If Bowles survives this he should me mandated to shake up his staff.

Kacy Rodgers should be gone first. 

Replace with Vic Fangio who is on the outs in Chicago. Fangio is used to a 3-4  defense bur in chicago apparently Fox has been playing his 4-3 and it hasn't worked.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/07/report-vic-fangio-could-be-part-of-massive-overhaul-in-chicago/

 

[New York Mick]

The coaching staff and FO. There's enough talent on this team to be over 500 even with Fitz at QB. 

The CS has zero control of the team and the FO needs to do a better job with contracts, evaluating talent and the draft. Being over 500 makes for a more watchable season but it would be nice to make in a championship game once in a while. It's a ******* abortion.

[FidelioJet]

There is very little talent on this team. Only a couple of guys in their prime and no impact players.

Coaching hasn't been great but no coach would win with this talent.


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[munchmemory]

No one's "fault".  It's just that we're the Jets. These consistent calamities are an integral part of our genetic makeup. 

[OH THE PAIN]

The owner is ultimately responsible . He hired all of these douches . Time to tear it down and try again (But with who ?)

[bitonti]

theres a reason why Revis makes 16 mil, Fitz makes 12 mil and Bowles makes like 1. 

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

theres a reason why Revis makes 16 mil, Fitz makes 12 mil and Bowles makes like 1. 

bowles makes 4.  he was signed for 4 years at 4m per year.

[rangerous]

6 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

If Bowles survives this he should me mandated to shake up his staff.

Kacy Rodgers should be gone first. 

Replace with Vic Fangio who is on the outs in Chicago. Fangio is used to a 3-4  defense bur in chicago apparently Fox has been playing his 4-3 and it hasn't worked.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/07/report-vic-fangio-could-be-part-of-massive-overhaul-in-chicago/

 

that kind of depends on the personnel.  they probably should be playing wilk, richardson, leo, and mcclendon at the same time.

[JetFanWithNOPSL2017]

I agree with #8

When you get to a fork in the road, Take It

[Integrity28]

The question posed in the thread title is false choice. They are not mutually exclusive.

[Beerfish]

Stick a fork in the jets we are done.