Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 This is the perfect time to trade McCown. The Jaguars and Cardinals are the two places that I think would have some interest. The Jaguars have a good defense and running game but have absolutely no trust in Bortles. Plus Bortles is in the same position contract wise as Wilkerson; if he gets hurt and misses next season they are on the hook for a ton of money. With their division being very winnable it would make sense for them to trade a 4th rounder for McCown. The Cardinals are another team that might have some interest after losing Palmer for the season. I think that team sucks but they did just trade for Peterson so they must consider themselves playoff contenders. Maybe they would be willing to deal a 4th for McCown. We should take advantage of the fact that McCown has not been inept and move him to a team that could use an upgrade at QB. I can't see our gutless front office or head coach being willing to trade him but this is a move that should be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 In all reality no one wants Josh McCown, if it weren't for the NY Jets he wouldn't be in the NFL. If Mike Maccagnan can pull off a trade for Josh McCown he would be GM of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Most people don't think McCown is an upgrade over Stanton or Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pennington said: This is the perfect time to trade McCown. The Jaguars and Cardinals are the two places that I think would have some interest. The Jaguars have a good defense and running game but have absolutely no trust in Bortles. Plus Bortles is in the same position contract wise as Wilkerson; if he gets hurt and misses next season they are on the hook for a ton of money. With their division being very winnable it would make sense for them to trade a 4th rounder for McCown. The Cardinals are another team that might have some interest after losing Palmer for the season. I think that team sucks but they did just trade for Peterson so they must consider themselves playoff contenders. Maybe they would be willing to deal a 4th for McCown. We should take advantage of the fact that McCown has not been inept and move him to a team that could use an upgrade at QB. I can't see our gutless front office or head coach being willing to trade him but this is a move that should be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 In his best of years, he had a 6-7 record as a starting QB. What GM in their right mind wants a shopworn Josh McCown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 McCown will be the starter until he gets hurt or the Jets are mathematically out of the playoffs. You probably don't like it, I don't like it but that's the Bowles way. "He gives us the best chance to win" Todd Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: In his best of years, he had a 6-7 record as a starting QB. What GM in their right mind wants a shopworn Josh McCown? Well we did for one and McCown is an upgrade over Bortles and Stanton. Would it really be a stretch to see Jacksonville sending us a 4th rounder for McCown so they can move on from Bortles. They are definitely a contender in that division and really shouldnt be risking an injury to Bortles which would cost them big money next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, MaxAF said: McCown will be the starter until he gets hurt or the Jets are mathematically out of the playoffs. You probably don't like it, I don't like it but that's the Bowles way. "He gives us the best chance to win" Todd Bowles I agree that the Jets are too stupid to make a move like this but I think Jacksonville or Arizona would consider giving us a pick for McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, MaxAF said: McCown will be the starter until he gets hurt or the Jets are mathematically out of the playoffs. You probably don't like it, I don't like it but that's the Bowles way. "He gives us the best chance to win" Todd Bowles This is true, as sickening as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'd call the Packers(especially if there's any truth to Rodgers coming back in 2 months) but they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Stuff the draft pick. Simply getting McCown off the team and elevating Petty to the starter would be compensation enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I'd call the Packers(especially if there's any truth to Rodgers coming back in 2 months) but they won't. I'd call them all. They'd all hang up on me. I'd have to borrow your phone because every Gm would already have told me to stop badgering them and blocked my number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pennington said: Well we did for one and McCown is an upgrade over Bortles and Stanton. Would it really be a stretch to see Jacksonville sending us a 4th rounder for McCown so they can move on from Bortles. They are definitely a contender in that division and really shouldnt be risking an injury to Bortles which would cost them big money next season. They are probably going to win their division. Why on earth would they bench Bortles, who they have waited 3+ years to get them into a position like this, for a guy like McCown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Pennington said: This is the perfect time to trade McCown. The Jaguars and Cardinals are the two places that I think would have some interest. The Jaguars have a good defense and running game but have absolutely no trust in Bortles. Plus Bortles is in the same position contract wise as Wilkerson; if he gets hurt and misses next season they are on the hook for a ton of money. With their division being very winnable it would make sense for them to trade a 4th rounder for McCown. The Cardinals are another team that might have some interest after losing Palmer for the season. I think that team sucks but they did just trade for Peterson so they must consider themselves playoff contenders. Maybe they would be willing to deal a 4th for McCown. We should take advantage of the fact that McCown has not been inept and move him to a team that could use an upgrade at QB. I can't see our gutless front office or head coach being willing to trade him but this is a move that should be made. Cmon. As much as I'd like to see the other 2 start and get a chance, this just makes no sense in regards to the actual people making the decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I'd call the Packers(especially if there's any truth to Rodgers coming back in 2 months) but they won't. Yeah thats another team we should contact. McCown is probably better than Hundley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, section314 said: They are probably going to win their division. Why on earth would they bench Bortles, who they have waited 3+ years to get them into a position like this, for a guy like McCown? Bortles is terrible and if he gets injured they are on the hook for his salary in 2018 much like we are with Wilkerson. I think when Jacksonville played Pittsburgh they didn't let Bortles throw a pass in the second half. Fact is they know he sucks and might consider McCown an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, section314 said: They are probably going to win their division. Why on earth would they bench Bortles, who they have waited 3+ years to get them into a position like this, for a guy like McCown? Not that I think they will make a move for McCown, but he did give a valid reason. They picked up Bortles 5th year option. It is guaranteed for injury. That means if he gets hurt he gets a guaranteed $19M next year. People on this board are worried about paying Cousins $25M. Could you imagine paying Bortles $19M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: Could you imagine paying Bortles $19M? Blake Bortles is better than any QB on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Blake Bortles is better than any QB on our roster. Relevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Relevance? None just stating a fact being you mentioned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: None just stating a fact being you mentioned him. Oh. Thought that since he was a starting QB that he should get starting QB money. Like Fitzpatrick. That has to be $19M by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, section314 said: They are probably going to win their division. Why on earth would they bench Bortles, who they have waited 3+ years to get them into a position like this, for a guy like McCown? Pssht. Bortles is HALF the leader that McCown is. And here are the stats comparison, just for interest's sake. McCown isn't much worse than Bortles. Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars 7 196 115 58.7 28.0 1,398 7.1 199.7 9 4.6 5 2.6 52 17 3 11 50 85.4 Year Team G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate 2017 New York Jets 7 221 153 69.2 31.6 1,583 7.2 226.1 10 4.5 7 3.2 69T 21 3 22 153 91.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 This is like one of those calls on WFAN. Caller: Hey Mike, first time long time, great honor to be on your show, your da best. Mike: What can I do foe ya? Caller: Hey, I was thinkin, why don't the Mets trade Seth Lugo? Mike: Errr, OK, what do you think you will get back for him? Caller: I was thinkin that they could trade him foe that Altuve guy from the Astros, the Astros have all those middle infielders and they could use another starta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Blake Bortles is better than any QB on our roster. Yeahhhhhh... Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, Spoot-Face said: Yeahhhhhh... Not really. Yes really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Yes really Look at the stats I posted. Similar numbers to Bortles and McCown. The topic on which of them is better is very debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: This is like one of those calls on WFAN. Caller: Hey Mike, first time long time, great honor to be on your show, your da best. Mike: What can I do foe ya? Caller: Hey, I was thinkin, why don't the Mets trade Seth Lugo? Mike: Errr, OK, what do you think you will get back for him? Caller: I was thinkin that they could trade him foe that Altuve guy from the Astros, the Astros have all those middle infielders and they could use another starta I brought up the potential of getting a 4th round pick for McCown. Its not like I was asking for a first round pick. Is it really so far fetched to believe that a team with a terrible QB like Bortles or one that has lost a starter such as Rodgers or Palmer and has no viable backup could have interest in him. Jacksonville, Arizona, and Green Bay all believe they can make the playoffs. Its not outrageous to think that one of them might be willing to give a mid round pick for McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Pennington said: Jacksonville, Arizona, and Green Bay all believe they can make the playoffs. Its not outrageous to think that one of them might be willing to give a mid round pick for McCown. Get it done! Macc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: Get it done! Macc Listen I don't want McCown on this team and starting any more than you do but your belief that he wouldn't be in the league at all if the Jets didn't sign him is completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: 1 minute ago, Pennington said: I brought up the potential of getting a 4th round pick for McCown. Its not like I was asking for a first round pick. Is it really so far fetched to believe that a team with a terrible QB like Bortles or one that has lost a starter such as Rodgers or Palmer and has no viable backup could have interest in him. Jacksonville, Arizona, and Green Bay all believe they can make the playoffs. Its not outrageous to think that one of them might be willing to give a mid round pick for McCown. I think there is a better chance one of those three teams calls the Giants and asks if they are ready to move on from Eli then there ever would be of somebody calling about McCown. I do agree with you though......this might be the year a 9-7 or 8-8 team gets in. The league is beyond parity; it's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pennington said: I brought up the potential of getting a 4th round pick for McCown. Its not like I was asking for a first round pick. Is it really so far fetched to believe that a team with a terrible QB like Bortles or one that has lost a starter such as Rodgers or Palmer and has no viable backup could have interest in him. Jacksonville, Arizona, and Green Bay all believe they can make the playoffs. Its not outrageous to think that one of them might be willing to give a mid round pick for McCown. I'm just kidding bro, I hear you. I would take a 4th for him. No offense, just playing around keeping things light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Look at the stats I posted. Similar numbers to Bortles and McCown. The topic on which of them is better is very debatable. There's really nothing to debate here. The Jets would rather have Bortles any day of the week and twice on Sunday! Regardless of the stats, Bortlles has something that McCown doesn't - UPSIDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, Pennington said: This is the perfect time to trade McCown. The Jaguars and Cardinals are the two places that I think would have some interest. The Jaguars have a good defense and running game but have absolutely no trust in Bortles. Plus Bortles is in the same position contract wise as Wilkerson; if he gets hurt and misses next season they are on the hook for a ton of money. With their division being very winnable it would make sense for them to trade a 4th rounder for McCown. The Cardinals are another team that might have some interest after losing Palmer for the season. I think that team sucks but they did just trade for Peterson so they must consider themselves playoff contenders. Maybe they would be willing to deal a 4th for McCown. We should take advantage of the fact that McCown has not been inept and move him to a team that could use an upgrade at QB. I can't see our gutless front office or head coach being willing to trade him but this is a move that should be made. trading McCown makes no sense in any universe . I can't even think of any scenario that would make this happen. Hes a one year stop gap QB whose career will be over after this year unless the Jets sign him as a back up to an Incoming rookie or too Hack / Petty then maybe sign him as a QB coach due to his knowledge of the current system under Morton. Im not even sure if anything I said here is a possibility but getting a pick for him is absurd due to the Way Todd Bowles thinks hes our best option. That and nobody wants him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: trading McCown makes no sense in any universe . I can't even think of any scenario that would make this happen. Hes a one year stop gap QB whose career will be over after this year unless the Jets sign him as a back up to an Incoming rookie or too Hack / Petty then maybe sign him as a QB coach due to his knowledge of the current system under Morton. Im not even sure if anything I said here is a possibility but getting a pick for him is absurd due to the Way Todd Bowles thinks hes our best option. That and nobody wants him He is every bit as good as Bortles, Hundley, and Stanton and those teams consider themelves playoff contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 It is rational to think that the Cards or Packers would look for a stop gap to win enough games if they think Palmer or Rodgers is coming back. Doubt it would be McCown. Not sure why the Jags would go to McCown over Bortles. The salary theory is okay, but they are making a run now and there is more chance that Bortles or Henne steps up Flacco style than McCown plays competent ball. @Spoot-Face posted the stats and McCown has 40% more INT and more than double the sacks. It's nice that McCown's other numbers are good, but those numbers don't help you win with defense. Sunday being a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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