Matt39 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thoughts on him this season? He's kind of expected to be the guy....is he capable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 As long as he stays healthy he is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If Conner is 100% healed up from ankle tweak, that will be the key to Shonn Greene's productivity. terminator is a huge upgrade in run blocking. Trich walled people off, Conner destroys them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Some want to knock the Jets o-line around here but there is one thing that I'm convinced of. The run blocking will still be really good for the Jets. So yes I see Greene getting 1,100 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Kubiak says yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeniemeanie Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Shonn better be the real deal. We have a lot resting on him. Unless you think LT can reach 2006 form and McKnight is capable of growing a pair. I think we'll be fine. I have faith in The Greene Machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Some want to knock the Jets o-line around here but there is one thing that I'm convinced of. The run blocking will still be really good for the Jets. So yes I see Greene getting 1,100 yards. I think the offensive line will be fine, but IMO Hunter is a downgrade in run blocking from Woody. Also, with the abbreviated camp, injuries to Mangold and Moore, it might take some time to get rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I've picked him up in many of my fantasy teams and hope that they are able to churn out a running attack early and often. He's got the ability to rush for just over 1000 yards and be a work horse, but I hope he can stay healthy and hold on to the ball. For some odd reason though I see them taking a RB early next year (2nd round) to compliment him and make McKnight the 3rd down back. Greene's biggest downfall though is he has minimal receiving abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I don't think the line is a very good at run blocking to be honest. Its been declining the last few years so I don't think any running back is going to be ultra productive for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I don't think the line is a very good at run blocking to be honest. Its been declining the last few years so I don't think any running back is going to be ultra productive for us. Wha-wha-what? Its been declining over the last few years? Over the last 2 years, nobody has had a better run game than the Jets and its not because Thomas Jones and LT are unstoppable....its because we have one of if not the best run blocking Olines in the league. If healthy, Greene should take full advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Meh, I think most of the ground game comes from the O Line. But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 This isn't the ground and pound OLine that is was a few years ago with Woody and Faneca I'm skeptical as to what this running game will actually give us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Wha-wha-what? Its been declining over the last few years? Over the last 2 years, nobody has had a better run game than the Jets and its not because Thomas Jones and LT are unstoppable....its because we have one of if not the best run blocking Olines in the league. If healthy, Greene should take full advantage of it. Well in 2009 the Jets were #1 overall in rushing, in 2010 they were #4. Lets see where we finish this year, my guess is outside the top 10. There was also a 30+ yard per game difference between 2009 and 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Well in 2009 the Jets were #1 overall in rushing, in 2010 they were #4. Lets see where we finish this year, my guess is outside the top 10. There was also a 30+ yard per game difference between 2009 and 2010. This is true. However, maybe you should consider how many times we rushed the ball in 2009 compared to 2010? It was a significant difference as Sanchez attempted nearly 150 more passes (I'm not looking at stats but I'd assume that would impact our number of rush attempts). That said, still being top 5 with that big of a difference in attempts is actually at testament to how effective our run attack is because of our Oline. The bottom line is the NY Jets have one of the best Olines in the league. IMO - its the best unit on the Jets. And I highly doubt that this team falls outside the top 10 in rushing considering what they did last season with less attempts, Slauson at RG in his 2nd year instead of Faneca and Greene should be an upgrade from LT in terms of straight running from the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Well in 2009 the Jets were #1 overall in rushing, in 2010 they were #4. Lets see where we finish this year, my guess is outside the top 10. There was also a 30+ yard per game difference between 2009 and 2010. Where are you seeing "declining the last few years"? Went from something less than 4 for sure (I dunno what, don't care) to #1 (huge improvement) to #4 (extremely small regression). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 If I were a FF kinda guy, I would not pick up Shonn Greene. Jets do the RB by committee thing with a large committee. I suspect Greene will struggle to get 1000 yards (which is BS in a 16 game season, anyway), being ineffective as a receiver, and often off the field in the red zone. As a team, the running game will still be a top 5 unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 This is true. However, maybe you should consider how many times we rushed the ball in 2009 compared to 2010? It was a significant difference as Sanchez attempted nearly 150 more passes (I'm not looking at stats but I'd assume that would impact our number of rush attempts). That said, still being top 5 with that big of a difference in attempts is actually at testament to how effective our run attack is because of our Oline. The bottom line is the NY Jets have one of the best Olines in the league. IMO - its the best unit on the Jets. And I highly doubt that this team falls outside the top 10 in rushing considering what they did last season with less attempts, Slauson at RG in his 2nd year instead of Faneca and Greene should be an upgrade from LT in terms of straight running from the LOS. Greene should have been an upgrade from Thomas Jones in terms of straight running from the LOS. In FF terms he wasn't. I think the line and the running game will be fine, but Greene has a tendency to get hurt, can't catch and now will split time with 3 other backs. The O-line can be considered a little suspect because Moore is coming off of hip surgery and in the limited time he's been back he hasn't looked very good. Mangold was dinged and didn't get much time and Hunter has said himself that Woody was a better run blocker. More importantly Ducasse has underwhelmed and they don't have another guy that was on the roster as recently as Thursday. It's not like last year when there were 5 known solid starters, Turner and Hunter ready to step in with no drop off and a 2nd round pick waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Greene should have been an upgrade from Thomas Jones in terms of straight running from the LOS. In FF terms he wasn't. I think the line and the running game will be fine, but Greene has a tendency to get hurt, can't catch and now will split time with 3 other backs. The O-line can be considered a little suspect because Moore is coming off of hip surgery and in the limited time he's been back he hasn't looked very good. Mangold was dinged and didn't get much time and Hunter has said himself that Woody was a better run blocker. More importantly Ducasse has underwhelmed and they don't have another guy that was on the roster as recently as Thursday. It's not like last year when there were 5 known solid starters, Turner and Hunter ready to step in with no drop off and a 2nd round pick waiting in the wings. In all fairness, Jones couldn't catch either unless he stopped running altogether. I don't know that anyone is a noticeable receiving downgrade from Thomas Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 as tuna used to say, "they all look the same with no where to run" the real question is "will hunter be any good and is moore fully healed ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 This is true. However, maybe you should consider how many times we rushed the ball in 2009 compared to 2010? It was a significant difference as Sanchez attempted nearly 150 more passes (I'm not looking at stats but I'd assume that would impact our number of rush attempts). That said, still being top 5 with that big of a difference in attempts is actually at testament to how effective our run attack is because of our Oline. The bottom line is the NY Jets have one of the best Olines in the league. IMO - its the best unit on the Jets. And I highly doubt that this team falls outside the top 10 in rushing considering what they did last season with less attempts, Slauson at RG in his 2nd year instead of Faneca and Greene should be an upgrade from LT in terms of straight running from the LOS. Exactly. The Jets ran the ball 73 less times in 2010 than 2009, and ran for 382 less yards, going from 1st to 4th in the league. Meanwhile, the Jets passed the ball 132 more times in 2010 than 2009 for an additional 862 yards, to go from 31st to 22nd in the league in passing. So yeah, call me crazy, but just because the Jets didn't lead the league in rush attempts and rushing yards isn't exactly telling me that the Jets OL suddenly is going to be a problem in the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Where are you seeing "declining the last few years"? Went from something less than 4 for sure (I dunno what, don't care) to #1 (huge improvement) to #4 (extremely small regression). Didn't think about that. Its an extremely small regression then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I am going with "or what"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Well in 2009 the Jets were #1 overall in rushing, in 2010 they were #4. Lets see where we finish this year, my guess is outside the top 10. There was also a 30+ yard per game difference between 2009 and 2010. Might have something to do with the fact that we threw the ball about 120 times more. Just a thought, especially considering the YPC was about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Exactly. The Jets ran the ball 73 less times in 2010 than 2009, and ran for 382 less yards, going from 1st to 4th in the league. Meanwhile, the Jets passed the ball 132 more times in 2010 than 2009 for an additional 862 yards, to go from 31st to 22nd in the league in passing. So yeah, call me crazy, but just because the Jets didn't lead the league in rush attempts and rushing yards isn't exactly telling me that the Jets OL suddenly is going to be a problem in the running game. I hate being late to the party. It makes me feel less smart/oh-so-witty. Now where is that damn thesaurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I hate being late to the party. It makes me feel less smart/oh-so-witty. Now where is that damn thesaurus. Can't wait for the start of JN's finest weekly lecture series, "The Team the Patriots Just [beat/Lost To] is [Awesome/Overrated]." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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