NYGiantFan10 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/16/irsay-says-another-colts-deal-is-coming/ His twitter is loaded with tweets right now talking about a trade he states its a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Victor Cruz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Luck for Sanchez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Luck for Sanchez? WR dummy. Luck for Holmes or Stephen Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGiantFan10 Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Theres only two wideouts i see it being Victor cruz Larry fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 If the Cardinals trade Fitzgerald can the Jets haz Dockett or Campbell? All the impact players in the league would be dead with either one on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What's really interesting is no one in the Colts org ( other than the owner) has been leaking anything. This is a surprise to everyone. Could you imagine what life would be like without the daily leakage out of Florham Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I know it's unlikely, but did the Holmes restructure lower his cap hit if traded for, say, a 2055 seventh rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Theres only two wideouts i see it being Victor cruz Larry fitz Cardinals have the coaching connection. Colts have Luck, they can freely trade away their 1st rounder and/or picks from next year for Fitz ... since they won't be QB hunting for another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 The thought of Victor Cruz running around that dome, catching 100 passes a year from Luck would haunt Giants fans for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 The thought of Victor Cruz running around that dome, catching 100 passes a year from Luck would haunt Giants fans for a long time. Cruz is great, but giving Jerry Reese two more first rounders could be nice. Eli has a habit of making receivers look pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Cruz is great, but giving Jerry Reese two more first rounders could be nice. Eli has a habit of making receivers look pretty awesome. Who is giving up two first rounders for a guy they will have to pay a king's ransom to? His is an RFA playing on the tender. After that it is franchise him or pay him. The Giants are worried they can't afford to and still pay Eli and Nicks. The Vikings elected to give Greg Jennings 5/47 rather than make an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Who is giving up two first rounders for a guy they will have to pay a king's ransom to? His is an RFA playing on the tender. After that it is franchise him or pay him. The Giants are worried they can't afford to and still pay Eli and Nicks. The Vikings elected to give Greg Jennings 5/47 rather than make an offer. I'm assuming the Giants would trade him for two firsts, otherwise they'll just match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Last time we heard about the Colts making a big splash it was for sure a lil one getting Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'm assuming the Giants would trade him for two firsts, otherwise they'll just match. Of course they would trade him for two firsts! They'd probably do that if he were locked up. Any team could have him for an offere + a first. It probably isn't too hard to structure a contract to force the Giants hand. Two firsts is a pipe dream. Why do you think they would match? The only reason they aren't negotiating with him is because they probably can't afford him and Nicks and Eli. They are (correctly) stringing him along until they eventually end up losing him as a FA or circumstances change allowing them to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 they are trading Luck for RG3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 What's really interesting is no one in the Colts org ( other than the owner) has been leaking anything. This is a surprise to everyone. Could you imagine what life would be like without the daily leakage out of Florham Park? I really don’t think there is any leakage in Florham Park that they don’t want leaked. Look at the players they signed Friday. Did Mehta have any sources indicate that these signings were coming? I didn’t even hear any of these guys names mentioned until the signings. Guys like Mehta act just like the posters. They come to conclusions that they feel sure about from very little knowledge. The different is that on here you get banned for making up stories. With them they put the unidentified source tag on it, create a big stir, and sell more papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Cruz is great, but giving Jerry Reese two more first rounders could be nice. Eli has a habit of making receivers look pretty awesome. Ah, Jerry Reese. You are right if he gets more picks he will make it work. But Giants fans still will get sick seeing Cruz do the salsa in the dome during his 100+ catch season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It's amazing the turn around all you need is a real Q.B. They swollowed all their cap last year, Took the hit. Now in 2013 its like 2011 never happened. Tanked the Season got Luck and their all set. The Colts have a habbit in selecting Q.B's first overall, most are Elite, Elway 83. Jeff George 90. Andy Luck 2012. I wish we could fall over even an half decent one.. (Re-do the 2000 Draft, or undo the Mo Lewis hit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 It's amazing the turn around all you need is a real Q.B. They swollowed all their cap last year, Took the hit. Now in 2013 its like 2011 never happened. Tanked the Season got Luck and their all set. The Colts have a habbit in selecting Q.B's first overall, most are Elite, Elway 83. Jeff George 90. Andy Luck 2012. I wish we could fall over even an half decent one.. (Re-do the 2000 Draft, or undo the Mo Lewis hit). Also that Peyton Manning guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Also that Peyton Manning guy. who?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Of course they would trade him for two firsts! They'd probably do that if he were locked up. Any team could have him for an offere + a first. It probably isn't too hard to structure a contract to force the Giants hand. Two firsts is a pipe dream. Why do you think they would match? The only reason they aren't negotiating with him is because they probably can't afford him and Nicks and Eli. They are (correctly) stringing him along until they eventually end up losing him as a FA or circumstances change allowing them to sign him. The Giants already tendered him at the first round level, have zero reasons to trade him, and have more than enough cap space to match any deal the Colts could conceive of. If Irsay wants him, he's going to have to cough up a sh*tload to get him. A player of his age, talent, and production isn't getting out the door for less than a premium return above and beyond the first the Colts would be giving up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Giants already tendered him at the first round level, have zero reasons to trade him, and have more than enough cap space to match any deal the Colts could conceive of. If Irsay wants him, he's going to have to cough up a sh*tload to get him. A player of his age, talent, and production isn't getting out the door for less than a premium return above and beyond the first the Colts would be giving up anyway. Could be, but why don't they just pay him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Could be, but why don't they just pay him? He can't go anywhere. What's the rush? Let him go out, see who's paying what, sign an offer sheet, then Reese can match that. Only Mike Tannenbaum was dumb enough to guess at what the market is before signing players to huge deals (Holmes, Harris). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He can't go anywhere. What's the rush? Let him go out, see who's paying what, sign an offer sheet, then Reese can match that. Only Mike Tannenbaum was dumb enough to guess at what the market is before signing players to huge deals (Holmes, Harris). I agree they shouldn't rush to sign him, but, as usual, I think the Tannenbaum shot is out of line. Jason wrote an article that the Holmes contract was pretty much dead in line with market. Wrong player, not wrong contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I agree they shouldn't rush to sign him, but, as usual, I think the Tannenbaum shot is out of line. Jason wrote an article that the Holmes contract was pretty much dead in line with market. Wrong player, not wrong contract. Tannenbaum's an incompetent assbag who set the Jets back a half-decade. Anything Tom says or believes about him is kinder than he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I agree they shouldn't rush to sign him, but, as usual, I think the Tannenbaum shot is out of line. Jason wrote an article that the Holmes contract was pretty much dead in line with market. Wrong player, not wrong contract. No player who was traded for a fifth round pick the year prior is worth a 5 year/ $55 million dollar contract. Jason cited his age and production in comparison to other receivers in the league, but a player is only worth what another team will pay for him, and Holmes was a pariah around the league worth a measly fifth rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 No player who was traded for a fifth round pick the year prior is worth a 5 year/ $55 million dollar contract. Jason cited his age and production in comparison to other receivers in the league, but a player is only worth what another team will pay for him, and Holmes was a pariah around the league worth a measly fifth rounder. Way to trivialize it. He was traded cheap because everybody knew he wanted/expected a payday. Just like Revis. Cruz is going to want to get paid too. That sweet, sweet Chunky soup money only goes so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Tannenbaum's an incompetent assbag who set the Jets back a half-decade. Anything Tom says or believes about him is kinder than he deserves. Give me a ******* break. Woe is me! How did they ever win? Horrible, joke coach, check. Awful QB, check. Incompetent GM that set the franchise back 5 years check. How do they even win a game, let alone playoff games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Way to trivialize it. He was traded cheap because everybody knew he wanted/expected a payday. Just like Revis. Cruz is going to want to get paid too. That sweet, sweet Chunky soup money only goes so far. Holmes was dumped because he was a locker room cancer and a sociopath and Art Rooney needed a pelt to hang in the locker room after Roethlisberger went rape-crazy. Holmes got suspended for herb, Roooney flew back from Ireland, and Holmes was thrown out on his ear. Even your boy, CPA Big Drawers, said so: "We understood that was part of it, but we just felt like even with that, it was worth it," general manager Mike Tannenbaum said. "Obviously, a guy with his production and at 26 years old, he would not have been available if these indiscretions didn't happen, and obviously the suspension. But, with that said, we just felt like the risk and the price was reasonable for us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The fact that he was in a contract year and missing 1/4 of the season was unrelated. It was cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The fact that he was in a contract year and missing 1/4 of the season was unrelated. It was cancer Michael V. Tannenbaum: "Obviously, a guy with his production and at 26 years old, he would not have been available if these indiscretions didn't happen..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Michael V. Tannenbaum: "Obviously, a guy with his production and at 26 years old, he would not have been available if these indiscretions didn't happen..." The point of that quote is that Holmes would have signed a huge contract in Pittsburgh. The fact that he was only locked up for 12 games is why it was a 5th. Not the cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The point of that quote is that Holmes would have signed a huge contract in Pittsburgh. The fact that he was only locked up for 12 games is why it was a 5th. Not the cancer. How did you come away from that quote with anything about a contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 How did you come away from that quote with anything about a contract? "Do not become available" means that they do not get traded and by extension FAs. The guy was traded because it was his contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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